Young has gone and was never good or big enough to play as a kp.Depends if you consider Young, Campbell, Stringer and Redpath KPPs.
Campbell is a ruck
Stringer's class means he can play as a key forward.
Redpath - only at our club
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Young has gone and was never good or big enough to play as a kp.Depends if you consider Young, Campbell, Stringer and Redpath KPPs.
I've been thinking about this too. Four weeks ago we were all over Peter Wright, and I don't just mean this BF board. The club was obviously super keen on him and very hopeful of getting him. He was the perfect fit we were told. Meanwhile, we had been nibbling away at Boyd all year, but we obviously didn't expect to get him until next trade period. So we would have had Wright this year and then Boyd in 12 months time. Perfect!I keep wondering if Peter Wright is sitting there thinking Daniel Gorringe-like thoughts about how the bulldogs were in his ear prior to the Boyd trade... while his parents help him pack for GWS. I'm trying really hard to cheer myself up by thinking he'll come to us in a couple of years time now the door has been opened...
I'd rather Boyd than Wright. I believe the last year TAC cup numbers Boyd beats both Wright and McCartin.I've been thinking about this too. Four weeks ago we were all over Peter Wright, and I don't just mean this BF board. The club was obviously super keen on him and very hopeful of getting him. He was the perfect fit we were told. Meanwhile, we had been nibbling away at Boyd all year, but we obviously didn't expect to get him until next trade period. So we would have had Wright this year and then Boyd in 12 months time. Perfect!
A lot has changed since then. Firstly, the Melbourne compo pick for Frawley was a blow, but the Griffen bombshell blew all our original plans away and we had to make the best of the situation. I'm not sure if it was Pickering or us who took the lead in that - probably Pickers. It's a real shame because 2015 will be another development year for Boyd and it would have been better if GWS had subsidised it. Then we would pick him up just when he's ready to dominate in 2016.
So instead, in 2015 we will have a very inexperienced and developing Boyd ... and no Wright or Griffen.
Draft day is going to be a bit of a sad affair for us, as we have no picks inside the top 25.
So do we blame Macca for all this, or Griffen, or just those blasted footy gods?
The more I think about it the more I reckon it could have been an utter disaster. We nearly lost Wood and maybe Dahlhaus too. Then who knows? There could have been a domino effect. Cooney, Tutt, Jones and Higgins I can mostly live without (and sort of see the bright side of it) but losing Griffen is a savage blow. If Wood and Dahl had left I'd have been reaching for the razor blades...
Yeah, I'd rather Boyd than Wright too but I still think Wright would have been great for us. And why not have both, if that was the plan?I'd rather Boyd than Wright. I believe the last year TAC cup numbers Boyd beats both Wright and McCartin.
He also has a year more development on both.
Griffen stays then no Boyd.
No Boyd, Wright or McCartin then a retiring Griffen in 2016 was a real possibility given Saints didn't want to swap picks 4 & 6 for 1.
Time to start afresh. Happy with that.
The truth will out...
Senior players lacked identity and leadership.
They did not have the self esteem to handle strong feedback.
Monty saw an opportunity to undermine Macca.
Claims of abuse in exit interviews have been wildly exaggerated (if it really happened it would be front page news, written by reputable journos).
The boys club won, gordon relented and Macca left.
If monty gets the job now it confirms what I've said all along about the cultural problems at the club.
Before people suggest I'm a Macca apologist, all I'm saying is that his sacking should have occurred based on poor results on the field not because of a systematic campaign to degrade his character.
Griffen would have played for 2015 only, given he said he was thinking of retiring.Yeah, I'd rather Boyd than Wright too but I still think Wright would have been great for us. And why not have both, if that was the plan?
If reports are to be believed we were planning on bagging Boyd in 2015 post-season, so we could have had Griff and Wright next season and then add Boyd next trade period. It might be argued that (a) we could have been outbid by Carlton etc and (b) we might not have the booty that would satisfy GWS in a trade next year, but who knows?
Anyway that's all hypothetical because Griff got pushed into a no-fun role 12 months ago and wanted out. I'm still excited for the future with Boyd - just disappointed that we couldn't have got Wright (or perhaps Lever) as well. I could've happily (and unknowingly) waited another year for Boyd.
Mattdougie let it go he has goneComplete and utter garbage mate
Macca lost the players for what in other aspect of life would be called verbal abuse and belittlement.
And Monty wasn't even in the country
But you are right the news will come out and then I guarantee Macca will not be seen in the same light.
And for they matter the real reason Sando got the chop and that also was not completely player driven as it has been surmised
Complete and utter garbage mate
Macca lost the players for what in other aspect of life would be called verbal abuse and belittlement.
And Monty wasn't even in the country
But you are right the news will come out and then I guarantee Macca will not be seen in the same light.
And for they matter the real reason Sando got the chop and that also was not completely player driven as it has been surmised
Your attitude through all this has shown you are unable to see 2 sides of the story. For all you got right about the disharmony you are equally wrong about the cause. Maybe you need to consider the reasons why your source (if you even have one) wants you to believe certain things.
No my attitude is based on inside info I have had for over a year and have stated this. I think most have accepted I have known a lot more than many thought and I can also tell you I haven't told people close to all I know.
And my sources(plural) again as I've stated numberous times are not all Macca haters in fact one of them was one of "his golden boys"
So believe what u want but ask yourself this question. Why did Roughead(one of a Maccas "boys") agree that he had to go and that was in fact the final nail in the coffin?
Macca was verbally abusive and insulted far beyond just annoying so called soft players
When the truth comes out will you be big enough to admit ou were wrong?
I'm interested to know what you made of the herald sun article yesterday suggesting monty was using the disharmony to undermine Macca ?
I'm sure I'm not alone in saying move on.
The relentless anti-Macca campaign got their man. I don't care who had inside info and what Macca was and wasn't doing. Not interested anymore.
Hope you are right, MD. I want someone from outside the club.I honestly haven't read it
I will give it a read and let you know
And Monty will not get the job I'd be absolutely stunned if he does and the only reason he will is if we can't afford anyone else
I thought Wright was rated in the top 5 so he wouldn't get to us anyway. Likewise McCartin. When draft night comes around, I guess we'll wonder about "what ifs" once the first 5 picks are out of the way. Although some people forget that Jarryd Roughead was unattainable in 2004Four weeks ago we were all over Peter Wright, and I don't just mean this BF board. The club was obviously super keen on him and very hopeful of getting him. He was the perfect fit we were told. Meanwhile, we had been nibbling away at Boyd all year, but we obviously didn't expect to get him until next trade period. So we would have had Wright this year and then Boyd in 12 months time. Perfect!
Who was that out of interest? Will more details about this affair come out in the news?And my sources(plural) again as I've stated numberous times are not all Macca haters in fact one of them was one of "his golden boys"
I honestly haven't read it
I will give it a read and let you know
And Monty will not get the job I'd be absolutely stunned if he does and the only reason he will is if we can't afford anyone else
Yeah, I'd rather Boyd than Wright too but I still think Wright would have been great for us. And why not have both, if that was the plan?
If reports are to be believed we were planning on bagging Boyd in 2015 post-season, so we could have had Griff and Wright next season and then add Boyd next trade period. It might be argued that (a) we could have been outbid by Carlton etc and (b) we might not have the booty that would satisfy GWS in a trade next year, but who knows?
Anyway that's all hypothetical because Griff got pushed into a no-fun role 12 months ago and wanted out. I'm still excited for the future with Boyd - just disappointed that we couldn't have got Wright (or perhaps Lever) as well. I could've happily (and unknowingly) waited another year for Boyd.
Yes he was rated probably top 4 and we had pick 5 (originally). As Fronk kept saying, if we really wanted him we could get him (trade up or whatever) without having to hope he'd slip to pick 5.I thought Wright was rated in the top 5 so he wouldn't get to us anyway. Likewise McCartin. When draft night comes around, I guess we'll wonder about "what ifs" once the first 5 picks are out of the way. Although some people forget that Jarryd Roughead was unattainable in 2004
Mattdougie revealed via high level encryption technology that Brendan Macartney had water boarded certain players to toughen them. Apparently, these extreme methods where routinely used at Geelong FC and is believed to be a key factor in helping them win their premierships.
Joel Corey, Scarlet and Mooney reckon it did them no harm and the bulldog players are just pussies.
Corey's Scarlett's and Mooney's door at geelong to coach. Jobs for the boys and now they have been exposed they can go back to the shithole they crawled out from.
If 3 AFL premierships = a shithole ... please show me the way!