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One of the better Six Nations rugby tournaments in recent years. Ireland deservedly won after trouncing France, Wales and Italy. There were a lot of close games such as England beating Ireland, France draw with Italy, Italy over Scotland, France over England.
 

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Cost blowout used to dump 2026 Commonwealth Games ‘overstated’, Auditor-General finds​

A damning auditor general probe into the cancelled Commonwealth Games has found the Victorian government exaggerated the cost blowout it used to justify dumping the event.

The state government has been accused of fudging the numbers to explain its way out of cancelling the 2026 Commonwealth Games.
In a damning report published on Wednesday, Victoria’s auditor general Andrew Greaves blamed a lack of due diligence and bureaucratic incompetence for the games debacle.

He called for a comprehensive review into why key agencies did not work together effectively to give frank, full and timely advice to the government.

The government has already rejected calls for this review.

In his review, Mr Greaves also cast doubt over government claims of a cost blowout to almost $7bn, saying the figure was overstated.

Instead Mr Greaves found costs had blown out to about $4.9bn.

“The original Games budget was unrealistically low, but the $6.9 billion cost estimate the government publicly released when it withdrew from the Games was overstated,” he said.

Other key findings included that The Department of Jobs, Skills, Industry and Regions’ (DJSIR) business case for the Games was inadequate to support an informed decision by the government on the likely costs and benefits of hosting.

And the public sector’s advice to the government did not always meet the standards required by the Public Administration Act 2004 and key guidance documents.

Overall Mr Greaves found the cancelled event had cost Victoria $589m, including $150m in employee and operating costs shared between DJSIR and the Games organising committee.

A further $42m was incurred by Development Victoria for detailed planning and delivery cases for venues and villages.

“This waste would have been avoided if agencies had worked together better to give frank and full advice to the government before it decided to host the Games,” the report found.

“The government relied on the Department of Jobs, Skills, Industries and Regions business case when it decided to host the Games and determined the budget.

“The business case raised the risks associated with hosting the Games. But it underestimated the costs and overstated the benefits.”

The Victorian government spectacularly cancelled the 12-day sporting event last July, claiming the event had blown out from $2.6bn to nearly $7bn.

Despite warnings to the government about the rising cost of running the event, Premier Jacinta Allan — who at the time was the minister responsible for delivering the Games — had weeks earlier told parliament the government was making “tremendous progress”.

A day earlier Ms Allan had been warned planning was billions of dollars over budget and that significant changes to the proposed event would have to be made.

It was later revealed the business case used by the Andrews Government to sign up to host the Commonwealth Games was so rushed it did not include a proper analysis of “key elements of Games planning”.
Shadow Minister for Tourism, Sport and Events, Sam Groth, said the report confirmed the Games was a “cruel hoax to win votes in regional Victoria, and has ended up costing Victorians at least $589 million.”
“Labor only governs to play politics, and playing politics with the Commonwealth Games has destroyed our state’s reputation,” he said.
“The Auditor-General has found the Allan Labor Government knew the Games were in trouble before the last election, but continued to lie to the Victorian people and drastically overstated the costs of running the event once they knew they had to get out.”


 

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Leo Varadkar is to step down as Taoiseach and as leader of his party, Fine Gael. In an announcement this lunchtime in Dublin, Varadkar said he would quit as party leader with immediate effect but stay in the role of Taoiseach until his successor is appointed. Explaining his decision, Varadkar cited ‘personal and political reasons’ as to why ‘after careful consideration and soul searching, I don’t feel I’m the best person for the job any more’.

Varadkar – who first became Taoiseach in 2017 – went on to say that there is ‘never a right time to stand down’ but that he no longer felt able to give what is required to do the role justice. Varadkar’s resignation comes just over a week after suffering a defeat in a double referendum his government held to remove sexist language about women’s duties in the household from the Irish Constitution.
 
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Cost blowout used to dump 2026 Commonwealth Games ‘overstated’, Auditor-General finds​

A damning auditor general probe into the cancelled Commonwealth Games has found the Victorian government exaggerated the cost blowout it used to justify dumping the event.

The state government has been accused of fudging the numbers to explain its way out of cancelling the 2026 Commonwealth Games.
In a damning report published on Wednesday, Victoria’s auditor general Andrew Greaves blamed a lack of due diligence and bureaucratic incompetence for the games debacle.

He called for a comprehensive review into why key agencies did not work together effectively to give frank, full and timely advice to the government.

The government has already rejected calls for this review.

In his review, Mr Greaves also cast doubt over government claims of a cost blowout to almost $7bn, saying the figure was overstated.

Instead Mr Greaves found costs had blown out to about $4.9bn.

“The original Games budget was unrealistically low, but the $6.9 billion cost estimate the government publicly released when it withdrew from the Games was overstated,” he said.

Other key findings included that The Department of Jobs, Skills, Industry and Regions’ (DJSIR) business case for the Games was inadequate to support an informed decision by the government on the likely costs and benefits of hosting.

And the public sector’s advice to the government did not always meet the standards required by the Public Administration Act 2004 and key guidance documents.

Overall Mr Greaves found the cancelled event had cost Victoria $589m, including $150m in employee and operating costs shared between DJSIR and the Games organising committee.

A further $42m was incurred by Development Victoria for detailed planning and delivery cases for venues and villages.

“This waste would have been avoided if agencies had worked together better to give frank and full advice to the government before it decided to host the Games,” the report found.

“The government relied on the Department of Jobs, Skills, Industries and Regions business case when it decided to host the Games and determined the budget.

“The business case raised the risks associated with hosting the Games. But it underestimated the costs and overstated the benefits.”

The Victorian government spectacularly cancelled the 12-day sporting event last July, claiming the event had blown out from $2.6bn to nearly $7bn.

Despite warnings to the government about the rising cost of running the event, Premier Jacinta Allan — who at the time was the minister responsible for delivering the Games — had weeks earlier told parliament the government was making “tremendous progress”.

A day earlier Ms Allan had been warned planning was billions of dollars over budget and that significant changes to the proposed event would have to be made.

It was later revealed the business case used by the Andrews Government to sign up to host the Commonwealth Games was so rushed it did not include a proper analysis of “key elements of Games planning”.
Shadow Minister for Tourism, Sport and Events, Sam Groth, said the report confirmed the Games was a “cruel hoax to win votes in regional Victoria, and has ended up costing Victorians at least $589 million.”
“Labor only governs to play politics, and playing politics with the Commonwealth Games has destroyed our state’s reputation,” he said.
“The Auditor-General has found the Allan Labor Government knew the Games were in trouble before the last election, but continued to lie to the Victorian people and drastically overstated the costs of running the event once they knew they had to get out.”
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I doubt if Chairman Dan ever intended for Victoria to host the Commonwealth Games. He lied with the low estimate of costs to win the bidding. Then lied about the blowout of costs to justify the cancellation. Just another $589 million down the drain while he sails into the sunset with his index linked pension and mate's rates directorships.
 
Bojan KantKick said:

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Cost blowout used to dump 2026 Commonwealth Games ‘overstated’, Auditor-General finds​

A damning auditor general probe into the cancelled Commonwealth Games has found the Victorian government exaggerated the cost blowout it used to justify dumping the event.

The state government has been accused of fudging the numbers to explain its way out of cancelling the 2026 Commonwealth Games.
In a damning report published on Wednesday, Victoria’s auditor general Andrew Greaves blamed a lack of due diligence and bureaucratic incompetence for the games debacle.

He called for a comprehensive review into why key agencies did not work together effectively to give frank, full and timely advice to the government.

The government has already rejected calls for this review.

In his review, Mr Greaves also cast doubt over government claims of a cost blowout to almost $7bn, saying the figure was overstated.

Instead Mr Greaves found costs had blown out to about $4.9bn.

“The original Games budget was unrealistically low, but the $6.9 billion cost estimate the government publicly released when it withdrew from the Games was overstated,” he said.

Other key findings included that The Department of Jobs, Skills, Industry and Regions’ (DJSIR) business case for the Games was inadequate to support an informed decision by the government on the likely costs and benefits of hosting.

And the public sector’s advice to the government did not always meet the standards required by the Public Administration Act 2004 and key guidance documents.

Overall Mr Greaves found the cancelled event had cost Victoria $589m, including $150m in employee and operating costs shared between DJSIR and the Games organising committee.

A further $42m was incurred by Development Victoria for detailed planning and delivery cases for venues and villages.

“This waste would have been avoided if agencies had worked together better to give frank and full advice to the government before it decided to host the Games,” the report found.

“The government relied on the Department of Jobs, Skills, Industries and Regions business case when it decided to host the Games and determined the budget.

“The business case raised the risks associated with hosting the Games. But it underestimated the costs and overstated the benefits.”

The Victorian government spectacularly cancelled the 12-day sporting event last July, claiming the event had blown out from $2.6bn to nearly $7bn.

Despite warnings to the government about the rising cost of running the event, Premier Jacinta Allan — who at the time was the minister responsible for delivering the Games — had weeks earlier told parliament the government was making “tremendous progress”.

A day earlier Ms Allan had been warned planning was billions of dollars over budget and that significant changes to the proposed event would have to be made.

It was later revealed the business case used by the Andrews Government to sign up to host the Commonwealth Games was so rushed it did not include a proper analysis of “key elements of Games planning”.
Shadow Minister for Tourism, Sport and Events, Sam Groth, said the report confirmed the Games was a “cruel hoax to win votes in regional Victoria, and has ended up costing Victorians at least $589 million.”
“Labor only governs to play politics, and playing politics with the Commonwealth Games has destroyed our state’s reputation,” he said.
“The Auditor-General has found the Allan Labor Government knew the Games were in trouble before the last election, but continued to lie to the Victorian people and drastically overstated the costs of running the event once they knew they had to get out.”
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Herald Sun Liberal Party pulling porkies again.

HS says AG report said Gove overstated cost of $6.9b when it was actually according to HS $4.9b

That’s blatant bs because the report said actual cost was $5.9b .

The two Dept Heads said $6.9b figure was upper end ie worst case. They stated costs b/w 6-7b which was fairly accurate

Also the report states …

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That was 7 months after the ‘22 election. Where in the report does it say the govt lied?? HS lying again

$589m cost to cancel was high but better option than spending/wasting billions more
 
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Bojan KantKick said:
Leo Varadkar is to step down as Taoiseach and as leader of his party, Fine Gael. In an announcement this lunchtime in Dublin, Varadkar said he would quit as party leader with immediate effect but stay in the role of Taoiseach until his successor is appointed. Explaining his decision, Varadkar cited ‘personal and political reasons’ as to why ‘after careful consideration and soul searching, I don’t feel I’m the best person for the job any more’.

Varadkar – who first became Taoiseach in 2017 – went on to say that there is ‘never a right time to stand down’ but that he no longer felt able to give what is required to do the role justice. Varadkar’s resignation comes just over a week after suffering a defeat in a double referendum his government held to remove sexist language about women’s duties in the household from the Irish Constitution.
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Didn't see it coming, they;re still doing OK in the polls as well (There is an ingrained culture in Ireland especially with the over 40s that your family votes one way - FF or FG - and thats it). I think Simon Harris will replace him, or Simon Coveney. Election is next year.
 
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Cost blowout used to dump 2026 Commonwealth Games ‘overstated’, Auditor-General finds​

A damning auditor general probe into the cancelled Commonwealth Games has found the Victorian government exaggerated the cost blowout it used to justify dumping the event.

The state government has been accused of fudging the numbers to explain its way out of cancelling the 2026 Commonwealth Games.
In a damning report published on Wednesday, Victoria’s auditor general Andrew Greaves blamed a lack of due diligence and bureaucratic incompetence for the games debacle.

He called for a comprehensive review into why key agencies did not work together effectively to give frank, full and timely advice to the government.

The government has already rejected calls for this review.

In his review, Mr Greaves also cast doubt over government claims of a cost blowout to almost $7bn, saying the figure was overstated.

Instead Mr Greaves found costs had blown out to about $4.9bn.

“The original Games budget was unrealistically low, but the $6.9 billion cost estimate the government publicly released when it withdrew from the Games was overstated,” he said.

Other key findings included that The Department of Jobs, Skills, Industry and Regions’ (DJSIR) business case for the Games was inadequate to support an informed decision by the government on the likely costs and benefits of hosting.

And the public sector’s advice to the government did not always meet the standards required by the Public Administration Act 2004 and key guidance documents.

Overall Mr Greaves found the cancelled event had cost Victoria $589m, including $150m in employee and operating costs shared between DJSIR and the Games organising committee.

A further $42m was incurred by Development Victoria for detailed planning and delivery cases for venues and villages.

“This waste would have been avoided if agencies had worked together better to give frank and full advice to the government before it decided to host the Games,” the report found.

“The government relied on the Department of Jobs, Skills, Industries and Regions business case when it decided to host the Games and determined the budget.

“The business case raised the risks associated with hosting the Games. But it underestimated the costs and overstated the benefits.”

The Victorian government spectacularly cancelled the 12-day sporting event last July, claiming the event had blown out from $2.6bn to nearly $7bn.

Despite warnings to the government about the rising cost of running the event, Premier Jacinta Allan — who at the time was the minister responsible for delivering the Games — had weeks earlier told parliament the government was making “tremendous progress”.

A day earlier Ms Allan had been warned planning was billions of dollars over budget and that significant changes to the proposed event would have to be made.

It was later revealed the business case used by the Andrews Government to sign up to host the Commonwealth Games was so rushed it did not include a proper analysis of “key elements of Games planning”.
Shadow Minister for Tourism, Sport and Events, Sam Groth, said the report confirmed the Games was a “cruel hoax to win votes in regional Victoria, and has ended up costing Victorians at least $589 million.”
“Labor only governs to play politics, and playing politics with the Commonwealth Games has destroyed our state’s reputation,” he said.
“The Auditor-General has found the Allan Labor Government knew the Games were in trouble before the last election, but continued to lie to the Victorian people and drastically overstated the costs of running the event once they knew they had to get out.”
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600m cost to cancel an event they chose to spend money to host.
During a time where the treasurer's budget this year is rumoured to be one of the worst in history. Broke and needing to make cuts and raise taxes.

All the while having cut funding for its homelessness program in the midst of a housing crisis.

www.theage.com.au

Renowned homelessness scheme gutted with 1500 fewer people to benefit

The Allan government is set to slash funding for a program with proven success at getting people off the streets, despite a decline in the number of housing spots available for homeless Victorians over six months last year.
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Or that Ambos could use a funding boost so they can live a decent life.

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Ambos DESERVE to have A LIFE TOO - Victorian Ambulance Union

Our members are forced to work hours of involuntary overtime every day, either because they are ramped at a hospital, or dispatched to a case minutes before the end of shift and sometimes after their rostered finish time. Ambos are dedicated to saving lives. Please support us by signing this...
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Its the arrogance of this Andrews/Allen government and it goes back to first getting in and sacrificing 1bn to cancel the east west link. Claiming it was not well costed and didn't represent value for taxpayers money... But a 1bn to not build the road is good value. The arrogance that they don't think every cent of our tax dollars matters to Victorians that puts us in this position. Just waste money and will reportedly raise taxes in May because they're broke.

P.S. For others here. I don't give a rats tossbag if the HS lied or didn't lie. I don't need the accuracy of their article for what I've said.
 
Zidane98 said:
Just got a home insurance renewal. Bumped from $996.00 to $1403.00!


I know there's been inflation but that's surely a bit of a stretch for that much of an increase! I'm using Youi currently.
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Made any claims? That is a fair jump.

I've never stayed with the same insurer for more than 12 months. Just not worth it, you'll get better deals shopping around.
 
Zidane98 said:
Just got a home insurance renewal. Bumped from $996.00 to $1403.00!


I know there's been inflation but that's surely a bit of a stretch for that much of an increase! I'm using Youi currently.
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Our car insurance as well as house went up a lot as well. Was on the News the other night. Due to floods nationwide etc behind cost increase
 
Jatz said:
I'm a bit sceptical about that. We have had floods over the years that haven't driven the prices up like these recent jumps.

They're going up because they know they can.
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It's the freak rain events of the last few years coupled with COVID though, meaning that materials and labour are much more expensive. We've had floods over the years, but not the high cost of labour/materials to go with it.
 
SM said:
It's the freak rain events of the last few years coupled with COVID though, meaning that materials and labour are much more expensive. We've had floods over the years, but not the high cost of labour/materials to go with it.
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How would COVID have negatively impacted insurance? Car insurances would have had historical lows during the various lockdowns. Home insurances I'm guessing would've been lower due to the vast majority being at home (less likely houses get broken into etc).

I get what you're saying, I just think it's easy to raise prices by whatever they want because they can hide it under the inflation banner.
 
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