Least number of wins to make finals??

[Evil M0nkey]

The winner of the bombers v hawks game will have 10 wins for the season.
Does anyone know if that officially is the least number of games a team has has ever won to make the finals?

 

[GuzzLG]

Didn't Fitzroy come last in 1916 and then win the flag?

 

[Evil M0nkey]

ah yes i think you are right. Something to do with the war reducing the number of teams i think.
Thats an exception I guess. Any others?

 

[Evil M0nkey]

ok it would seem its happened lots back then, as the seasons were shorter.
Maybe the question should be rephrased to say since 1968 when 20+ round seasons were introduced.

 

[Smaaart]

You can't really compare different eras because there were different amounts of sides making finals. I believe this will be the lowest since the Bears made the finals with 10 wins in 1995 or 1996.

 

[DeZi]

The Bombers will be on 10 and 1/2 wins

Same as the Lions in '97...Port were also on 10 and 1/2 wins but lower percentage...Followed by 4 teams on 10 wins (Pies, Blues, Freo, Tigers)...Bombers on 9 wins and Hawks on 8 wins....Lucky last were the Demons on 4 wins...

 

[Trjn]

It's possible to do it with 0 wins (draw all matches) but the lowest I've ever seen actually achieved is 10 wins 1 draw.

 

[Two Eyes]

If Essendon draw with Hawthorn and Port lose then they could make it in with 9 wins and 2 draws. That would be awesom. Lets back the draw in!

 

[peejay]

What about the best result and not making the finals.

1998 No surprise it is us - 12 wins and 104.8 % which was a better % than the teams that finished 6th (saints) and 4th (dees) and was only 1.7% behind the team that finished 3rd (swans)

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Fitzroy won 2 games in 1916 and took out the flag

 

[pluga_4]

You can't really compare different eras because there were different amounts of sides making finals. I believe this will be the lowest since the Bears made the finals with 10 wins in 1995 or 1996.

it was in 1995 and it was a top 8 with only a 15 team competition.

 

[Hawthorn United]

Fitzroy won 2 games in 1916 and took out the flag

Heavy training load leading up to September obviously

 

[pluga_4]

there's been a handful of teams to win 8 or 9 and make the finals (especially in the war years when there were less rounds)

 

[Henry Jr]

Lets go one step further (tongue in check here ), Hawks could win a flag with only 14 wins.

Whats the least amount of wins to win a flag?

 

[tribey]

it was in 1995 and it was a top 8 with only a 15 team competition.

1995 was Freo's entry = 16 teams again.

 

[pluga_4]

1995 was Freo's entry = 16 teams again.

yep, my apologies.

just looking at 95 now, 7th & 8th made up the numbers that year.

6th spot had 14 wins

 

[MCE]

yep, my apologies.

just looking at 95 now, 7th & 8th made up the numbers that year.

6th spot had 14 wins

On that theme, what are the most wins/percentage to have finished 8th? Western Bulldogs had 13 wins and 106% in 2006.

 

[McCrann]

What about the best result and not making the finals.

1998 No surprise it is us - 12 wins and 104.8 % which was a better % than the teams that finished 6th (saints) and 4th (dees) and was only 1.7% behind the team that finished 3rd (swans)

Not so fast - how about

Geelong 1993 - 12 Wins 8 Losses 111.62% (Only 20 Rounds that year) (Made Grand Finals either side of 1993)

Carlton 1992 - 14 Wins 8 Losses 112.32% (Made a Grand Final the next year, won a Flag 3 years later)

Collingwood 1991 - 12 Wins 1 Draw 9 Losses 115.54% (Defending Premiers)

North Melbourne 1990 - 12 Wins 10 Losses 113.98% (Team of the 1990s - including a RECORD 7 STRAIGHT PRELIMINARY FINALS (1993-1999)

So, in fact Richmond aren't that unlucky. All 4 teams above just missed finals as well - but at least they had already achieved the ultimate, or went to do it or go awfully close.

When you see a stat like that - you start to understand why the Final 5/6 was not enough. It kept too many genuinely good teams out of the finals.

One wonders why Richmond wasn't able to kick-on like these teams after just missing the finals? What is it they say about 'culture' down at Punt Road?

 

[peejay]

Not so fast - how about

Geelong 1993 - 12 Wins 8 Losses 111.62% (Only 20 Rounds that year) (Made Grand Finals either side of 1993)

Carlton 1992 - 14 Wins 8 Losses 112.32% (Made a Grand Final the next year, won a Flag 3 years later)

Collingwood 1991 - 12 Wins 1 Draw 9 Losses 115.54% (Defending Premiers)

North Melbourne 1990 - 12 Wins 10 Losses 113.98% (Team of the 1990s - including a RECORD 7 STRAIGHT PRELIMINARY FINALS (1993-1999)

So, in fact Richmond aren't that unlucky. All 4 teams above just missed finals as well - but at least they had already achieved the ultimate, or went to do it or go awfully close.

When you see a stat like that - you start to understand why the Final 5/6 was not enough. It kept too many genuinely good teams out of the finals.

One wonders why Richmond wasn't able to kick-on like these teams after just missing the finals? What is it they say about 'culture' down at Punt Road?

Obviously i was refering to a 16 team comp and a final 8 - i was trying to compare apples with apples.

If there was a final eight in all the years you have mentioned then the teams would have made the finals !!

 

[McCrann]

Obviously i was refering to a 16 team comp and a final 8 - i was trying to compare apples with apples.

If there was a final eight in all the years you have mentioned then the teams would have made the finals !!

Yep - I get that - but you didn't make it 100% clear and when I looked into it I was intrigued by the results.

Certainly seems there is a very good case for having a Final 8 when you consider the unlucky teams in the years immediately preceding the Final 8.

8/18 should be a good fit - but will they decide to go to 10? Possibly - because it'll mean a 5 week Finals series - and the Networks will love that.