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Damn, you could well be right. I succeeded in distracting you from your central thesis though.


Actually, you brought more attention to it. Thankyou for highlighting it. I suggest your next thesis be on circumpositions and adpositions.
 
Gavin Excell said:
Lost Bradhsaw and now have lost their best and fairest Rischitelli who mus have found his decision easier after how he was treated 12 months ago

Bradshaw: 31 year old player whose body was seriously starting to breakdown. Wanted a 3 year deal on big bucks. We offered 1, with a 2nd performance based year. He didn't want it. Good bye. Would've been stupid to give him the 3.

Rischitelli: True, his decision was probably made easier. But who's to say he wouldn't have left anyway? It's always possible Voss knew his mind was made up 12 months ago, but probably not. He's reported to be earning 500k a season at the GC, which is more than he's worth. Also, we got a 1st round pick in compensation. I think this is a relevant piece of information.:thumbsu:


Gavin Excell said:
Salary cap problems putting pressure on players like J Brown and S Black having to take pay cuts which is ridiculous for a 13th placed side

The salary cap problems are probably being blown well out of proportion by the media. I don't recall any reports on Brown needing to take a pay cut?

There was some tripe about us "not signing" Black or Power. I'm sure we'll get to that. Also, I would imagine that as their outputs start to notably decrease, so too should their contracts. Why should we pay them at the same level, when they are no longer performing at the same level? (particularly Power).

Gavin Excell said:
Wasted picks last year on players the calibre of X Clarke and signed players as good as Andrew Raines for 3 years (3 years!)

While we're yet to see much from X, I'm still hoping he can come in next year and offer us something. Who knows. The precious draft pick we gave up, was pick 60 something. Oh dear!:rolleyes:

3 year deal to Raines is baffling. I'm not going to defend this. We gave us pick 40 something, which probably would've been useless too us anyway.. The only real loss here is cap space.

Gavin Excell said:
What a mess at Brisbane

And haven't even mentioned Fevola yet

Please don't.;)
 

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They couldn't have had a worse offseason last year. Took ridiculous gambles and surprise surprise they haven't paid off. If I were Voss I'd be trading for draft picks like my life depended on it.
 
I always try to help, even those foreigners who live south of the border (river).

Edit: While I'm about it, WTF is a foreigner doing barracking for Collingwood?

Edit Again: Abbotsford barely scrapes into Bomber territory as well.

Little uprooted tree am I.
That that is is.
 
Your attempts at deflection are alarmingly insufficient. Your grammar and linguistic structures are almost as bad as your coach.

At the risk of appearing tiresome, have a close look at my original reply. We are in agreement.
 

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Always knew voss would screw the team up when he made all those trades.. went from a top 8 team to a bottom 8... good work buddy!
 
Always knew voss would screw the team up when he made all those trades.. went from a top 8 team to a bottom 8... good work buddy!


How can u say that we still had basically the same team this year, except for Fevola in and Bradshaw out. Henderson wouldn't have played much this year and lucas wouldnt have played much either. Our list was relative the same to last years.
 

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he traded off some good up and coming players and got recycled players who went shit

and he's going to lose Rischatelli because he used him
and he's going to lose Jarred Brennan

Let's face it, right now, Voss can't coach because he can't manage people.

These "lead by example captains" aren't really leaders when it comes down it.
 
How can u say that we still had basically the same team this year, except for Fevola in and Bradshaw out. Henderson wouldn't have played much this year and lucas wouldnt have played much either. Our list was relative the same to last years.

What crap mate. Henderson is exactly the type of player we needed, as a lead up forward and he will be around for another 10 years. Brown's body is stuffed and is better suited to the inside 50. There was absolutely no need for Fevola and you know it, well the football world knows it.

As for Lucas who is to say we wouldn't have drafted Lewis Jetta, another type of player we needed. Our future was looking great until Voss decided to play fantasy footy and in the process throw away our future, especially if Henderson and say a Jetta was on our list.
 
Totally aside from any other trade and even assuming Fev is 100% innocent of this latest allegation, the people responsible for this....if accurate....

It was confirmed yesterday Fevola had no behavioural clauses in his contract.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/fev-not-gone-yet/story-e6frf9jf-1225916041207

should be sacked by Brisbane immediately.
I find it hard to believe.

Just on the story, I also think that the articles suggestion that Brisbane methodically accumulate enough dirt to sack a player as a legitimate mechanism to alleviate Cap pressure is an insult to the AFL competition, the players and the footy public.
If I was Vlad I would be asking for a please explain from Jon Ralph and a retraction from the HUN on the front page.
I think Brisbane would be within their rights expect an apology as well.

That said any cap pressure is the sole responsibility of the club and there is no way you can put it onto any player.
 
What crap mate. Henderson is exactly the type of player we needed, as a lead up forward and he will be around for another 10 years. Brown's body is stuffed and is better suited to the inside 50. There was absolutely no need for Fevola and you know it, well the football world knows it.

As for Lucas who is to say we wouldn't have drafted Lewis Jetta, another type of player we needed. Our future was looking great until Voss decided to play fantasy footy and in the process throw away our future, especially if Henderson and say a Jetta was on our list.

As we've watched this season, Henderson is developing into a better player, as a 20 year-old should. He is never going to be a Fevola or J. Brown. He doesn't need to be, for him to be very valuable for Carlton.

Despite some brain fades and clumsiness, he competes. This would have been good in Brisbane's forward line for most of the season. He has an enormous upside. I'm prejudiced, I've always rated him.

I also think Fevola is a wonderful footballer. I'm in no way convinced we'll ever see that again.
 
Fair go, they did manage to beat Collingwood this year ;)
 
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