Clark trade discussion #1 (please read opening post)

[Grimreepah]

Opposition supporters,

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[Surly Boy]

Clark trade discussion (no more PSD threats please)

Clark Looks West

"The Australian reports today though that "neither Clark nor Greater Western Sydney want a future relationship" and that Clark is poised to join Fremantle on a "lucrative" deal with Clark seeking a contract worth "more than $500,000 a season"."

"An indication of Clark's future may rest with Clark's parents. They are returning to Western Australia after living Queensland for several years"

 

[Bucking Beads]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

What does it say about Clark that GWS aren't even interested in him?

 

[LIONHART]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Clark Looks West

"The Australian reports today though that "neither Clark nor Greater Western Sydney want a future relationship" and that Clark is poised to join Fremantle on a "lucrative" deal with Clark seeking a contract worth "more than $500,000 a season"."

"An indication of Clark's future may rest with Clark's parents. They are returning to Western Australia after living Queensland for several years"

apparently clark is to formally advise the club as early as monday that he wants to be traded to fremantle.

what should brisbane be insisting on as regard a fair trade/compensation for him

 

[Hanley]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

apparently clark is to formally advise the club as early as monday that he wants to be traded to fremantle.

what should brisbane be insisting on as regard a fair trade/compensation for him

This puts us in quite a strong position at the trade table I think, especially given there is no PSD option that doesn't go at least past port and possibly richmond (of the teams that might be keen).

I would hope he was worth a first round pick and a fringe 22 player, or alternatively a second rounder and a genuine youngster coming through.

This is assuming that we want him, and would reasonably happily keep him if the trade table hardball shows no result.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

I would have thought Clark nominating Freo puts us in a crap position on the trade table.

 

[Hanley]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

I would have thought Clark nominating Freo puts us in a crap position on the trade table.

Only if he is totally unwilling to stay with us? Surely GWS would have been worse, as we lose the option entirely. I would have thought this way he only gets traded if the Lions admin decide we're being offered worthwhile compensation from Freo.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

He is uncontracted, we will lose him regardless.

 

[Hanley]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

He is uncontracted, we will lose him regardless.

But only to either GWS or the team most willing to match his wage demands in the Pre-Season Draft? I thought actual free agency wasn't here yet, and not for a player of fewer than eight years experience anyway.

It seems to me that he would prefer Brisbane to anywhere but the West at this stage, maybe I'm misreading his manager's comments though.

 

[moyledog]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

In my opinion, we should be trying to do a 3 way deal with Freo and GWS to secure O'meara. My suggetsion would be Clark to Freo, Zac Clarke to GWS and O'Meara to Brisbane.

 

[Panthera]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

He is uncontracted, we will lose him regardless.

Not necessarily...we have a PSD pick before Freo

If they want him, they need to pay up. Either a 1st rounder (pick #17 at this stage) or a 2nd rounder coupled with one of the below:

Barlow
Broughton
Z.Clarke
Ibbotson
Morabito
Silvagni
Suban

 

[Hollow Knight]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

I suspect the Rhys Palmer GWS compo pick will be part of the deal.

If it is Band 2 we can bank it and use it next year. Will be worth a lot more to us than Freo.

 

[Quigley]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

It'll still be based on Freo's finish not ours. Also no way in hell they get a band 2 for Palmer. It'll be a band 3 but I do agree it is most likely to be what is included in any deal.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

It'll still be based on Freo's finish not ours. .

Only if we use it this year. If we use it next year it's based on ours isn't it?

 

[Quigley]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

No I am sure it was clarified that it would be based on the finish of the team that originally held the pick. If it was used this year it could only be used at the end of the first round before the band three picks. Next year it would be after the team's pick or half way through the round whichever is the earlier.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

No I am sure it was clarified that it would be based on the finish of the team that originally held the pick. If it was used this year it could only be used at the end of the first round before the band three picks. Next year it would be after the team's pick or half way through the round whichever is the earlier.

Really? Is this information online somewhere?

 

[Quigley]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Really? Is this information online somewhere?

@#$%& making me do research. I can't find anything definitive. I am pretty confident however and it is much more of a common sense approach to tie it to the compensated team. I realise common sense has been in short supply in hte whole compensation system.

 

[Mavlions1961]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

@#$%& making me do research. I can't find anything definitive. I am pretty confident however and it is much more of a common sense approach to tie it to the compensated team. I realise common sense has been in short supply in hte whole compensation system.

I am with you on this Quig. I am certain I read it around this time last year when everyone was talking about the Suns, pretty sure the AFL published the rules regarding trades etc to allay confusion from the clubs, or something to that effect.

 

[Gibbo_88]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Assuming that this gets moved to another thread...but anyway. I think I read on the draft and trading board a while ago that it goes on the clubs position that has the compensation pick when it is activated, so the Harbrow one if we were to trade it this year goes on our ladder position, not the new clubs position. I can't recall if there was an actual source on it though.

Agree with quigs on that it would be logical to just tie it to the ladder position of the team that lost the player and save this confusion.

 

[Football Pope]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

No I am sure it was clarified that it would be based on the finish of the team that originally held the pick. If it was used this year it could only be used at the end of the first round before the band three picks. Next year it would be after the team's pick or half way through the round whichever is the earlier.

Yep...not that one would know in March..But activating the Bulldogs pick this year may be a mistake...With a new coach and game plan I see 'em dropping down the ladder for a season or two..

 

[dlanod]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Assuming that this gets moved to another thread...but anyway. I think I read on the draft and trading board a while ago that it goes on the clubs position that has the compensation pick when it is activated, so the Harbrow one if we were to trade it this year goes on our ladder position, not the new clubs position. I can't recall if there was an actual source on it though.

Agree with quigs on that it would be logical to just tie it to the ladder position of the team that lost the player and save this confusion.

I don't think there's any source one way or another unfortunately - I'm in the "takes the new team's position" boat because I thought I recalled that from somewhere... but I've never found a quote to back either and I've tried. We'll probably only find out for certain when it actually matters.

 

[lionaround]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Clark for Clarke and a compo pick.

 

[whatboutbob]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Clark for Clarke and a compo pick.

Geeze I'd take that in a heartbeat.

 

[Lions1024]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Geeze I'd take that in a heartbeat.

I reckon a Z Clarke/M Clark trade would be a massive win for us.

 

[lionaround]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Unfortunately I doubt the deal would be as lucrative for us as that, depends on the compo pick received for Palmer.