Clark trade discussion #1 (please read opening post)

[Gibbo_88]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

I don't think there's any source one way or another unfortunately - I'm in the "takes the new team's position" boat because I thought I recalled that from somewhere... but I've never found a quote to back either and I've tried. We'll probably only find out for certain when it actually matters.

It looks that way I'm sure the clubs actually know what the go is. It wouldn't have been hard to go into the specifics when they came up with the compensation picks in the first place.

 

[Quigley]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

The Harbrow pick is an end of first round pick anyway so there will be very little difference between activating it when they are at the best or not. If they fell down the ladder we might go a pick or two higher if someone above the Bulldogs had activated their own picks but realistically the band 3 picks are the ones not really affected at all by the whole trading issue. This year it makes no difference because no-one else has decided to use a pick (although they may well decide to when the get a GWS pick I guess).

 

[dlanod]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Given all the Band 1 compensation being mooted with the occasional Band 2 since GWS is targeting kids with big contracts, I'm pretty sure we'll find out in the next couple of years assuming one or more gets traded.

 

[Nuggo]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

He could get to Fremantle via GWS. Just to complicate things.

 

[Special88]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

Clark for Freo's first rounder and Palmer compo pick.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Clark for Freo's first rounder and Palmer compo pick.

Plus our 3rd rounder

 

[Special88]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

Plus our 3rd rounder

And Austin, Hawksley etc etc

 

[Haggis McHaggis]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

Clark for Clarke, Fyfe & their 1st rounder

 

[Mayestro]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

Back to reality (well, the reality of hypothetical trades) if Palmer is Band 2 then a straight swap.

However what is more likely is that Palmer will be Band 3. I'd say Clark is worth more than their first rounder but less than their first rounder and compo pick. What'd be fairer would be their first rounder and swap our compo picks-ie they have our end of first round compensation pick for this year, and we take their Palmer compo pick to use next year in the super draft. Win-win?

 

[Ceebee]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

Clark for Clarke, Fyfe & their 1st rounder

Now that sounds like it could work

 

[BuntonRules]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

Clark Looks West

"The Australian

"An indication of Clark's future may rest with Clark's parents. They are returning to Western Australia after living Queensland for several years"

Maybe they decided that he was a big boy& didn't need mummy & daddy any more?

On topic, first rounder & swap second. Just so it looks like we are driving negotiations.

 

[Lace Out]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

Clark for Clarke, Fyfe & their 1st rounder

This is particularly evil - especially that thing at the end which I have no idea how to create.

 

[Chops_a_must]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Young, there is not a bigger ****wit in player management.

I have no doubt we're interested. I also think it's stupid. After all, we have one of the best KPP... and we don't even play him forward.

You will want too much. We don't want to pay for what he's worth. Hard to see a deal here that would work out for both clubs.

Just daft when we have 3 performing rucks on the list.

 

[lionshine]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

I would trade our 1st Rounder and Mitch Clark for Fyfe but Freo wouldn't do that deal

Clark for Clarke?

 

[Dylan12]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

Just daft when we have 3 performing rucks on the list.

That is why I am surprised Freo would chase Clark. Sure, if you were to use him in a Natanui type ruck rover/second ruck role, or even as a wingman, you couldn't go past Clark, I just wouldn't have thought that is the type of player you would want when are stacked with that type of player.

I was being somewhat facetious when I suggested Fevola earlier, but if a key forward who kicks goals is what you are after, Fevola would be a better option than Clark, although I agree with you Chops, one would naturally assume Pavlich is the key forward you need and should be played purely as a key position forward, but Harvey just won't leave them there permanently.

 

[Chops_a_must]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

That is why I am surprised Freo would chase Clark. Sure, if you were to use him in a Natanui type ruck rover/second ruck role, or even as a wingman, you couldn't go past Clark, I just wouldn't have thought that is the type of player you would want when are stacked with that type of player.

I was being somewhat facetious when I suggested Fevola earlier, but if a key forward who kicks goals is what you are after, Fevola would be a better option than Clark, although I agree with you Chops, one would naturally assume Pavlich is the key forward you need and should be played purely as a key position forward, but Harvey just won't leave them there permanently.

Yeah, none of us can really work it out.

We have Clarke who most of you here would take as a straight swap in a heart beat, who has come along incredibly well this season. Plays the same role as Clark and seems to have a better temperament.

It's a bit of a throwback for us with its compulsive like feeling. I think you'll bend us over. We're just waiting for it.

 

[Dylan12]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

First off, any trade involving Clark must include their first pick, so that being said, I hope they finish as low as possible after this weekend's games. Coupled with Freo's first round pick, which is clearly insufficient as a stand alone trade, I would like Paul Duffield included and for me, that would get the deal done. Sure, Freo fans will probably scoff at that, but they have to realise that they must actually be prepared to give up something in order to procure a pretty in-demand type of player.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

First off, any trade involving Clark must include their first pick, so that being said, I hope they finish as low as possible after this weekend's games. Coupled with Freo's first round pick, which is clearly insufficient as a stand alone trade, I would like Paul Duffield included and for me, that would get the deal done. Sure, Freo fans will probably scoff at that, but they have to realise that they must actually be prepared to give up something in order to procure a pretty in-demand type of player.

I think we have too many Duffield types on our list though. We need another tough mid or better still, an established defender...do Freo even have any of those?

 

[Dylan12]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

It's a bit of a throwback for us with its compulsive like feeling. I think you'll bend us over. We're just waiting for it.

I hate to say it, but I hope so...for so long with Gubby Allan in charge of our trades, we were usually the ones on the receiving end (see most of the 2009 trades/Travis Johnstone trade), so it would be nice to be perceived as the 'winners' which obviously won't be known until years later.

But I agree Chops, not sure why you guys would be interested, unless it is just the romance of bringing a local East Freo boy back home. Look, he did have an awesome 2009, and if he could ever regularly produce that type of form, you've done well, but having seen every single of his 82 games, I would say that is the exception rather than the rule...at this stage anyway.

 

[Dylan12]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

We need another tough mid or better still, an established defender...do Freo even have any of those?

I don't know about tough, but maybe someone like Matt de Boer (is he even a regular though...might be tough considering from what I understand that he is in the middle of a part-time law degree at my alumni, UWA).

Also...isn't Paul Duffield an established defender?

The one guy I really like, but we have no chance of getting is Ibbotson...would compliment us nicely, but then so would Fyfe.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

I don't know about tough, but maybe someone like Matt de Boer (is he even a regular though...might be tough considering from what I understand that he is in the middle of a part-time law degree at my alumni, UWA).

Also...isn't Paul Duffield an established defender?

The one guy I really like, but we have no chance of getting is Ibbotson...would compliment us nicely, but then so would Fyfe.

My bad, I meant a key position defender. I'm of the thought that we can fill a Duffield type role quite easily with Drummond, McGrath, Hanley and possibly even Bartlett playing that role, along with Patful as support. Decent KPD's are harder to come across but I don't see one that we might want on Freo's list unfortunately.

 

[Dylan12]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade suggestions

My bad, I meant a key position defender. I'm of the thought that we can fill a Duffield type role quite easily with Drummond, McGrath, Hanley and possibly even Bartlett playing that role, along with Patful as support. Decent KPD's are harder to come across but I don't see one that we might want on Freo's list unfortunately.

I suspected that's what you meant and after my previous post, looked up Duffield's height and he is only 189cm. Silvagni is the only other KPD of note, but Freo wouldn't trade him and whether we would want him is another story.

 

[Chops_a_must]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade discussion

You can have Duffield or Ibbotson. Gladly.

 

[nedda]

Re: Mitch Clark #2

I would have thought Clark nominating Freo puts us in a crap position on the trade table.

I dont see this as the case, mayne is there leading goal kicker this year with 25. clarke gives them the option as a forward or a ruck and with sandilands being 29 could provide them with the option to play him as a forward first rotating through the ruck, Zac clarke has been ok as has griffin but there is more to gain with our clarke, and he is only 23, and there is every chance freo will drop to 13th with results going our way making there first pick 12

 

[free at last]

Re: Clark to Fremantle trade discussion

FREO will offer our second rounder plus a fringe 22 player.
If brissy don't except they run risk of losing Clark into the PSD.
Better off with something that can be part of the future than doing a St. Kilda (luke ball)and getting nothing.