List Mgmt. 2013 Trading & Free Agency

[The Sloane Ranger]

The Gummy to Freo has no more legs at this stage then Gummy to Adelaide

Like Noble, all Freo has said is that they will explore the Gumbleton option later in the trade period

 

[I Lost My Keays]

great get by essendon but what are the saints doing?
McKevoy/Goddard/Montagna..

it's like they want to be bottom for the next 3 years

 

[spexau]

I meant why are they getting rid of their best players?

They think they are rebuilding

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

I meant why are they getting rid of their best players?

Starting from ground zero, want to clean out to bring a young group through all at the same time within a two or three year drafting window

 

[I Lost My Keays]

If St Kilda bring in youth why don't they try for Lyons , we could get pick 21

 

[FAITH]

not the best way to rebuild imo. the kids need leaders

 

[FAITH]

The Gummy to Freo has no more legs at this stage then Gummy to Adelaide

Like Noble, all Freo has said is that they will explore the Gumbleton option later in the trade period

He had a medical at freo i think he will end up there

 

[King Elvis]

And if we didn't have at least 28 better players on our team list.

He's not as good as you think he is. And the selectors have a far better idea of his abilities and deficiencies than you.

We don't have 28 better players on our list, and our selectors showed repeatedly that they had little idea of anything this year.

 

[Jazzregis]

I meant why are they getting rid of their best players?

Saints are crazy yo, they are rebuilding Melbourne style=no chance of success

 

[spexau]

not the best way to rebuild imo. the kids need leaders

Also known as the Melbourne approach

 

[mattymac]

great get by essendon but what are the saints doing?
McKevoy/Goddard/Montagna..

They've outlined Pelchen's plan not to challenge until 2017. Until then they aim to clear out their list to accrue twice the 1st and 2nd round draft picks they would otherwise get then go hard at free agency in 2016 to fill out the veteran cohort they will need for a tilt.

You can't say its not a bold strategy.

 

[Bicks]

He had a medical at freo i think he will end up there

We can only hope that is so!!

C'mon Freo you really know you want to!!!

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

He had a medical at freo i think he will end up there

I think he has a medical with 2-3 clubs lined up, I'm confident that your source will confirm that we are one of those clubs

 

[Jack is Back]

gr,eat get by essendon but what are the saints doing?
McKevoy/Goddard/Montagna..

And they said Melbourne were tanking .

Looking at a previous posting that we will lack KIDS to develop in 2014, I disagree.

I expect Crouch, Brown, Laird, Griggs and Kerridge to be in our first 22 next year. There is still plenty of improvement in Talia, Smith, Lynch and Jenkins. Players who will be pushing for a game include Hartigan, Lyons (if not traded) and Johnston.

Will anyone make the Griggs Leap (i.e not first 22 in SANFL in 2012 to looking good in the AFLin late 2013)? I would not be surprised to see CEY sooner rather than later and whilst Atkins and Siggins were always going to need at least 2 years to develop I would not be surprised to see Rory 2 pushing for a game by the end of next season.

The key to development is to select the KIDS rather than the safe option (an out of form older player). Hopefully the performances of Crouch, Griggs, Laird and Brown last year (and the lack of performance by Stiffy, Porps, Radar and DMac) will result in a change of attitude.

 

[King Elvis]

They don't get it right all the time, but they get it right far more often than they get it wrong - and they have access to far more information than we do when making their decisions. I find it positively laughable when people bignote themselves here on BigFooty, thinking that they know more than the selectors. If people like KE were in charge of our team selection then we would have won fewer games than St Kilda did this year.

There is nothing to suggest that they have got it wrong with Lyons.

We'd have won more, because I'd pick players based on merit and form.

 

[NTRabbit]

I think he has a medical with 2-3 clubs lined up, I'm confident that your source will confirm that we are one of those clubs

I don't think we'd have a realistic shot at him anyway unless we were the only club to make an offer. He's going to look at us and see Walker, Jenkins and Johnston. Then he's going to look at Fremantle and see Pavlich, and Taberner. More opportunity for him out West.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

I don't think we'd have a realistic shot at him anyway unless we were the only club to make an offer. He's going to look at us and see Walker, Jenkins and Johnston. Then he's going to look at Fremantle and see Pavlich, and Taberner. More opportunity for him out West.

Not to mention that he is from WA

 

[King Elvis]

I think you have Lyons mistaken for another player...

Lyons is inside as they come

Was a small forward when we drafted him, according to one of his mates who has posted on here a few times.

 

[dude316]

He had a medical at freo i think he will end up there

The guy's had a lot if injuries, the medical will probably last longer than the trade period.

 

[dazzledavey36]

Hey guys do you eventually think Lyons will leave the club?

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Hey guys do you eventually think Lyons will leave the club?

Yes, he is close to accepting the terms put forward.

But we won't be just giving him away.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Hey guys do you eventually think Lyons will leave the club?

Yeah we have grigg and kerridge ahead of him

 

[Mego Red]

We'd have won more, because I'd pick players based on merit and form.

You genuinely think you know better than the selectors?

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

The guy's had a lot if injuries, the medical will probably last longer than the trade period.

I'm still puzzled at how McIntosh passed Geelong's medical last year, he did not play a game in 2913 due to injury

 

[Tex200]

Yes, he is close to accepting the terms put forward.

But we won't be just giving him away.

Interesting to consider his value. He is contracted and so they must extract him which adds to his value - third rounder if uncontracted. Vince is also contracted - cant see both combined worth 20 alone.

What about Tapscott - I see he gets bagged on here but do we have any kind of objective assessment. Is he just another stalling in that basket case?