2nds The Adelaide Crows Reserves - sponsored by Bendigo Bank

[DJ75]

You'd think with at least 2 of otten, l Thompson and radar down there that signings would have gotten a bit of 3rd man up support. Doesn't sound like much team defence or maybe no pressure on the ball carrier when delivering to him. Actually, sounds a bit like our first 3 games at afl level.

Thats because there is no team. One of the players mentioned to me that he had never found it harder to get a kick before, as everyone is out for themselves only. His comment was that he had never played football with less of a 'team' before.
Worrying.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Charlie Cameron looked ok confidence-wise

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yep both Port and us will have academy sides playing in the ressies and Ports zone will be split in 2 for us I think.

Should have the same deal for both AFL teams, which is balance between what both teams currently have - ie. Port's top-up players make them too strong & Crows not up to SANFL standard.

I like the idea of academy sides, but my thinking would be U18's & neither have a SANFL reserves.

Still think it is in the best interests for both AFL teams to have a SANFL team, but need to get the balance right.

 

[Papa G]

Should have the same deal for both AFL teams, which is balance between what both teams currently have - ie. Port's top-up players make them too strong & Crows not up to SANFL standard.

I like the idea of academy sides, but my thinking would be U18's & neither have a SANFL reserves.

Still think it is in the best interests for both AFL teams to have a SANFL team, but need to get the balance right.

Apparently you guys had only 3 non AFL listed players playing on the weekend. Top up players are not the issue.

Remember when 1 of the SANFL stipulations was that the AFL teams "play the line"? Well there is a perception out there that maybe the Crows reserves aren't playing to win.

But I'm sure the SANFL's review at the end of the year will focus on weakening the Magpies and this "playing the line" concept will all but be forgotten.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Apparently you guys had only 3 non AFL listed players playing on the weekend. Top up players are not the issue.

Remember when 1 of the SANFL stipulations was that the AFL teams "play the line"? Well there is a perception out there that maybe the Crows reserves aren't playing to win.

But I'm sure the SANFL's review at the end of the year will focus on weakening the Magpies and this "playing the line" concept will all but be forgotten.

Sure we had only 3 players, as we have at least the following players out injured -
VB, Henderson, B Crouch, Lynch, Osborn?

Do you not think there should be a similar model for Crows & Port?

 

[Papa G]

Sure we had only 3 players, as we have at least the following players out injured -
VB, Henderson, B Crouch, Lynch, Osborn?

Do you not think there should be a similar model for Crows & Port?

Injuries are always going to be a factor as to how the reserves teams go. Fact is Port at the moment have a very healthy list and are a very good list. if you look at the top teams in the VFL over the last number of years you'll see that Geelong and Box Hill have been dominating.

Of course the SANFL teams should have the same models. How that works I'm not sure, but I would have thought having Port's zones and giving half to the Crows would be the best solution, but I'll bet London to a Brick the SANFL clubs will not stand for this. It will all be about weakening the Magpies, not strengthening the Crows.

 

[DangerSloane]

Thanks.

I will keep my ear to the ground regarding the zones. I'm mates with the CDFC under 18 coach.

They are pushing big time for some if the port zone as the central kids from Elizabeth are too small and just not great athletes.

Hilarious given when I went to Under 17 tryouts at North Adelaide we had something like 90 kids trying out.
Centrals had over 250.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Injuries are always going to be a factor as to how the reserves teams go. Fact is Port at the moment have a very healthy list and are a very good list. if you look at the top teams in the VFL over the last number of years you'll see that Geelong and Box Hill have been dominating.

Of course the SANFL teams should have the same models. How that works I'm not sure, but I would have thought having Port's zones and giving half to the Crows would be the best solution, but I'll bet London to a Brick the SANFL clubs will not stand for this. It will all be about weakening the Magpies, not strengthening the Crows.

Yes, because there will nearly always be injuries, there needs to a fair model for topping these players up. Having players not up to SANFL standard isn't doing anyone any favours. Hence I like the idea of both AFL teams having an U18 academy side each, which would feed the top-up for SANFL team ... & also allow both teams to potentially groom potential draftees.

If both teams both end up with the same model & it is fair, can't see how anyone can complain...

 

[cmndstab]

Sure we had only 3 players, as we have at least the following players out injured -
VB, Henderson, B Crouch, Lynch, Osborn?

That would make sense - 22 players in the AFL side, 5 players injured, and perhaps one emergency player, is still only 28 players from our squad of 47. Meaning 19 starters from our side and 3 top-up players.

I still think we can't judge how competitive our side is compared to Port until they've played together for a couple of years. At the moment they're not playing as a team.

 

[Mike Smyth]

Injuries are always going to be a factor as to how the reserves teams go. Fact is Port at the moment have a very healthy list and are a very good list. if you look at the top teams in the VFL over the last number of years you'll see that Geelong and Box Hill have been dominating.

Of course the SANFL teams should have the same models. How that works I'm not sure, but I would have thought having Port's zones and giving half to the Crows would be the best solution, but I'll bet London to a Brick the SANFL clubs will not stand for this. It will all be about weakening the Magpies, not strengthening the Crows.

Injuries are always going to be a factor as to how the reserves teams go. Fact is Port at the moment have a very healthy list and are a very good list. if you look at the top teams in the VFL over the last number of years you'll see that Geelong and Box Hill have been dominating.

Of course the SANFL teams should have the same models. How that works I'm not sure, but I would have thought having Port's zones and giving half to the Crows would be the best solution, but I'll bet London to a Brick the SANFL clubs will not stand for this. It will all be about weakening the Magpies, not strengthening the Crows.

Prior to this year when was the last time the Port Magpies played in finals?

 

[Papa G]

Prior to this year when was the last time the Port Magpies played in finals?

Prior to last year when was the last time the Power did?

 

[SA Tricolours]

Port in SANFL from 2002 to 2013:
6, 5, 6, 3, 5, 6, 4, 8, 8, 6, 7, 6

 

[Mike Smyth]

Port in SANFL from 2002 to 2013:
6, 5, 6, 3, 5, 6, 4, 8, 8, 6, 7, 6

So without the incredibly generous deal Port Magpies haven't made the finals for the last 5 years. With "the incredibly generous deal" they currently sit top if the ladder 10% more than the next team. Yeah Papa the big bad Sanfl are yet again out to get Port. ffs they have just gifted you a premiership, what more do you want you bunch of ungrateful whingers.

 

[Papa G]

So without the incredibly generous deal Port Magpies haven't made the finals for the last 5 years. With "the incredibly generous deal" they currently sit top if the ladder 10% more than the next team. Yeah Papa the big bad Sanfl are yet again out to get Port. ffs they have just gifted you a premiership, what more do you want you bunch of ungrateful whingers.

We aren't whinging mate. That will be for everyone else. It has started already. We negotiated what we got, but you watch, it will all be watered down. The bigger question is why the Crows reserves are doing so badly? They only had 3 non AFL listed players last week. Are they trying to win? Are they playing the line?

 

[Mike Smyth]

We aren't whinging mate. That will be for everyone else. It has started already. We negotiated what we got, but you watch, it will all be watered down. The bigger question is why the Crows reserves are doing so badly? They only had 3 non AFL listed players last week. Are they trying to win? Are they playing the line?

Considering the massive advantage the Port Magpies have been gifted can you honestly blame the other clubs for whingeung.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Hilarious given when I went to Under 17 tryouts at North Adelaide we had something like 90 kids trying out.
Centrals had over 250.

The number of kids isn't the issue. It's the body size, home life and diet they are exposed to can become the problem.

Some percentage of Central kids come from low income families and this doesn't always expose them to the correct nutrition and that leads to small and very skinny kids playing at that age.

 

[Papa G]

The number of kids isn't the issue. It's the body size, home life and diet they are exposed to can become the problem.

Some percentage of Central kids come from low income families and this doesn't always expose them to the correct nutrition and that leads to small and very skinny kids playing at that age.

How do you explain many Indigenous kids fantastic football ability? Most of them don't come from downtown College Park.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

How do you explain many Indigenous kids fantastic football ability? Most of them don't come from downtown College Park.

The issue isn't how many make it, the point is - how many don't actually make it.

How many of them haven't been able to get that far due to home life or cultural background issues?

CDFC don't have a great record of having kids drafted and those who do - how many live in the Playford area?

 

[Papa G]

The issue isn't how many make it, the point is - how many don't actually make it.

How many of them haven't been able to get that far due to home life or cultural background issues?

CDFC don't have a great record of having kids drafted and those who do - how many live in the Playford area?

So how did they win all those flags over the last 15 years? They weren't developing them. They were bringing them in from elsewhere and using their Pokie money to provide recruits "reasons" to stay. Where was the outrage from the rest of the SANFL clubs then??? The minute the Magpies look like doing well they'll be massive media attention. It has already started.

 

[DangerSloane]

The number of kids isn't the issue. It's the body size, home life and diet they are exposed to can become the problem.

Some percentage of Central kids come from low income families and this doesn't always expose them to the correct nutrition and that leads to small and very skinny kids playing at that age.

You may be right, but they certainly weren't lacking body size when I played against them.
Granted this was almost 10 years ago now.

 

[DangerSloane]

We aren't whinging mate. That will be for everyone else. It has started already. We negotiated what we got, but you watch, it will all be watered down. The bigger question is why the Crows reserves are doing so badly? They only had 3 non AFL listed players last week. Are they trying to win? Are they playing the line?

So its unfair and will get watered down you admit, but you think this is a bad thing?

 

[Papa G]

So its unfair and will get watered down you admit, but you think this is a bad thing?

It's not unfair. Port are just firing on all cylinders at the moment. It won't last forever. But this is Adelaide, so a watering down Ot will be.

 

[Jars458]

Ban beards and the Magpies will be stuffed. They almost all have them.

 

[Mike Smyth]

So how did they win all those flags over the last 15 years? They weren't developing them. They were bringing them in from elsewhere and using their Pokie money to provide recruits "reasons" to stay. Where was the outrage from the rest of the SANFL clubs then??? The minute the Magpies look like doing well they'll be massive media attention. It has already started.

The difference is Centrals were using """"THEIR"""" money to build success. I repeat, """"THEIR""""money. They were a basket case but through hard work and dedication they rebuilt themselves into a successful club. Whereas any success the Port Magpies have in the future will be largely thanks to the massive advantage you have been gifted by the SANFL. You won't even have the good grace to thank the SANFL for this years premiership that they gifted you instead you will just whinge that they didn't given you enough.

FFS Like debating with Zombies.

 

[Papa G]

So cheating is okay? Wow.