Mega Thread Trade and List Management discussion

[Nath09]

I really, really, really don't rate Clarke. Every time I see him play I see a very average ruckman (hidden by being secondary ruck) who offers very little as a forward. Not a fan.

Hot tip - Don't look in the Zac Clarke thread then.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Hot tip - Don't look in the Zac Clarke thread then.

Haha - if the recruiting team and the coaches think he's the right option then go for it. They know a hell of a lot more than me! If he ends up with us I'll support him all the same - he's just not a guy I'd personally chase.

 

[Nath09]

I've not seen much of him but I can't say I like what I've been reading in the last 10 minutes. Interested to know other people's thoughts?

 

[Mutt]

I really, really, really don't rate Clarke. Every time I see him play I see a very average ruckman (hidden by being secondary ruck) who offers very little as a forward. Not a fan.

Every time I've seen him play I've thought that he shows promise but lacks intensity.

 

[Cori]

I think the idea that the ruck position can be filled by anyone - rookies, untalented late draft picks, gorillas - and that we shouldn't spend high draft picks on them, is going to change drastically in the near future. Talented rucks are going to be highly sought after as the position changes from gorilla vs gorilla to tall, athletic midfielder show downs.

The fact is that the Minson types are doomed and if you manage to find someone young like Grundy or Nicholls or Blicavs; that can be effective around stopages, around the ground and in the ruck; then you pay them well and lock them in long term.

I reckon the ruck position will be harder to fill than tall forwards as the game evolves. Best we fill the need while we can.

 

[VitalDread]

What would it take ot get Dangerfield, crows have said they are considering trading with others if Geelong doesn't offer what they want.

 

[Zephiisdaman]

I think the idea that the ruck position can be filled by anyone - rookies, untalented late draft picks, gorillas - and that we shouldn't spend high draft picks on them, is going to change drastically in the near future. Talented rucks are going to be highly sought after as the position changes from gorilla vs gorilla to tall, athletic midfielder show downs.

The fact is that the Minson types are doomed and if you manage to find someone young like Grundy or Nicholls or Blicavs; that can be effective around stopages, around the ground and in the ruck; then you pay them well and lock them in long term.

I reckon the ruck position will be harder to fill than tall forwards as the game evolves. Best we fill the need while we can.

But Will says Cape Grim beef has turned his form around. Gone back to eating meat again.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Every time I've seen him play I've thought that he shows promise but lacks intensity.

Love his athleticism. Can catch it. Has had the security blanket of never having to be the main man. I wonder if giving him that opportunity might help him blossom?

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

For those interested, some Clarke stats from the 2015 Prospectus writeup (i.e. 2014 statistics):

• Lowest hitout-to-advantage rate of any ruckman in the competition to play at least five games
• Had a clearance differential of -12.8% - third-lowest of the top 125 centre bounce attendees
• Won 21% of offensive one-on-one contests
• Rated "average" for a ruckman for disposals and goals
• Rated "poor" for a ruckman for hitouts and score launches

 

[Mutt]

Love his athleticism. Can catch it. Has had the security blanket of never having to be the main man. I wonder if giving him that opportunity might help him blossom?

His physical attributes and skill set are perfectly suited to our current game plan, so it all gets down to what's going on between his ears in my view Panna.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Jetta - Freo
Talia - Swans
Zac Clarke - Dogs?

Hmmmm?

 

[VitalDread]

For those interested, some Clarke stats from the 2015 Prospectus writeup (i.e. 2014 statistics):

• Lowest hitout-to-advantage rate of any ruckman in the competition to play at least five games
• Had a clearance differential of -12.8% - third-lowest of the top 125 centre bounce attendees
• Won 21% of offensive one-on-one contests
• Rated "average" for a ruckman for disposals and goals
• Rated "poor" for a ruckman for hitouts and score launches

What are ayce stats?

 

[VitalDread]

Hmmmm?

 

[Pannalstaroz]

For those interested, some Clarke stats from the 2015 Prospectus writeup (i.e. 2014 statistics):

• Lowest hitout-to-advantage rate of any ruckman in the competition to play at least five games
• Had a clearance differential of -12.8% - third-lowest of the top 125 centre bounce attendees
• Won 21% of offensive one-on-one contests
• Rated "average" for a ruckman for disposals and goals
• Rated "poor" for a ruckman for hitouts and score launches

So he's got room for improvement? Let's get him

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Lol. Well, you throw enough darts and you'll eventually hit something decent. Unfortunately not the double 3 I needed to beat my old man about 20 minutes ago

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

What are ayce stats?

He only played one AFL game last year so his writeup was minimal and focused on VFL form. No stats of substance.

 

[Dogsman16]

For those interested, some Clarke stats from the 2015 Prospectus writeup (i.e. 2014 statistics):

• Lowest hitout-to-advantage rate of any ruckman in the competition to play at least five games
• Had a clearance differential of -12.8% - third-lowest of the top 125 centre bounce attendees
• Won 21% of offensive one-on-one contests
• Rated "average" for a ruckman for disposals and goals
• Rated "poor" for a ruckman for hitouts and score launches

I'm not a fan either. Doesn't have any great appeal for me.

 

[GreatSouthWest]

For those interested, some Clarke stats from the 2015 Prospectus writeup (i.e. 2014 statistics):

• Lowest hitout-to-advantage rate of any ruckman in the competition to play at least five games
• Had a clearance differential of -12.8% - third-lowest of the top 125 centre bounce attendees
• Won 21% of offensive one-on-one contests
• Rated "average" for a ruckman for disposals and goals
• Rated "poor" for a ruckman for hitouts and score launches

Where do we sign?????

 

[King Harold]

I've not seen much of him but I can't say I like what I've been reading in the last 10 minutes. Interested to know other people's thoughts?

Some on the Dockers board mention he is the whipping boy !
Thank god was starting to think we will have none left after this draft .

 

[TimlinOfficial]

I'd take him for a third round pick I suppose, but not at 530k a year for three seasons (as is suggested in the thread for him on this board)

If I did take him, I wouldn't necessarily give him first shot at the number 1 role either. Bit of an inbetweener really, not deadwood but not that good either

 

[VitalDread]

More management point of view but Josh Fraser is returning from the Gold coast after two years head coach of their reserves side, wouldn't mind him at a coaching role for Footscray working alongside Edge and Hansen.
Could help develop our VFL ruckman

 

[BoydOHboyd]

Would we have a look at Ben Lennon?

 

[sdj1307]

As far as rucks go what is lobbe from port contract situation I think port will looks to free up space for Dixon and prob could afford to lose a tall

 

[Igloo]

As far as rucks go what is lobbe from port contract situation I think port will looks to free up space for Dixon and prob could afford to lose a tall

Contracted, and recently told by Hinkley that he's a required player.

Not that those words mean much anymore these days.

 

[VitalDread]

Would we have a look at Ben Lennon?

Off to blues according to some reports, Yarran for Lennon