List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2015

[NT.Thunder]

An exodus?

3 VFL players and a kid who hasn't played a game in his first 2 years?

Nah that's not an exodus, if anything it's a clean out. Add Dwyer, Young, Armstrong etc to the list and we are yet to lose anyone of any real value going forward. Freeman the only slight loss, and that's if he ever gets on the ground.

Agree - I'm on the "No Passengers" bandwagon. I'd rather do 3 or 4 years tough putting together a squad that can be premiership contenders for an extended period. We've got so many good VFL players running around on our list getting senior games but few you look at and go "Wow, that kids going to be something". Darcy Moore and DeGoey I can see us building a team around but those mentioned about looking at offers somewhere else, fine with me.

 

[swoop42]

thats a good effort but i reckon it just falls over on Lions accepting two picks in the 20s plus Oxley for Aish. They may but i suspect they would want and someone would give them a higher end pick for it.

Also doubt that Dees would swap Kennedy for Howe in what you basically have as a straight swap. they may but I would be surprised.

Salary cap would almost certainly have burst. You have about $2m of talent there.

If you could pull that off though be outstanding.

I'd be surprised if the Lions knocked back two 2nd round picks for Aish let alone 2 picks and Oxley.

They could probably land Bell for one of those 2nd rounders and take the other to the draft.

Personally I'd rather pick 24 and 26 than just pick 18.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Keep adding to the elite brigade
That will do nicely thank you

 

[left at home]

better to gain at top level than to loose like other years. loosing players who are not best or fringe
22 is ok with me, no matter how much I like them

 

[Saintly Viewed]

better to gain at top level than to loose like other years. loosing players who are not best or fringe
22 is ok with me, no matter how much I like them

This!

 

[jmac70]

I loved Dawes when he was at our club and he seems like a very nice man but...
I had to laugh when I read "he marks like an umpire signalling a super goal"

It is very amusing that his name is being raised. We must be desperate.

 

[Big Bryza]

Weren't those guys basically pre-Clarkson/Wright?

Clarkson took over at the end of 04.

Ellis and Dowler were picked up in 05.
Thorpe in 06.

Let's be honest, the hawks nailed 2 drafts and traded brilliantly along the way to get where they are now. Plus some wise selections in Smith, Hill, Stratton, Duryea, Poppy and Shiels.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Clarkson took over at the end of 04.

Ellis and Dowler were picked up in 05.
Thorpe in 06.

Let's be honest, the hawks nailed 2 drafts and traded brilliantly along the way to get where they are now. Plus some wise selections in Smith, Hill, Stratton, Duryea, Poppy and Shiels.

Ok, so he got 2 or 3 selection flat out wrong in a decade? Pretty good if you ask me.

Malthouse got 2 or 3 wrong in his first 2 or 3 years. Let alone how many he got wrong over 12.

 

[JOELY]

The Australian is reporting that GWS have upped up their chase for Witts.

Can you please provide us with a link to this?

 

[Wooljay]

Ok, so he got 2 or 3 selection flat out wrong in a decade? Pretty good if you ask me.

Malthouse got 2 or 3 wrong in his first 2 or 3 years. Let alone how many he got wrong over 12.

Those wouldnt be the only ones he got wrong in a decade, Dayle Gartlett springs to mind recently.

Their trading and FA pick ups won them 3 premiership, not even that much to do with drafting at the end of the day.

 

[Baird]

Can you please provide us with a link to this?

Isn't on their website.

 

[12kilos]

cloke has had his chance to leave on big money and chose to stay. do not believe he will go now.
even on record saying so late this season and the club says no, people trying to stir?

Correct. But if the price is overs ie swap with Lynch or first rounders 2015 and 2016 by Gold coast and he WANTS to leave why not

 

[Piestration]

Well, Treloar is arguably the second biggest fish this year. I say arguably because one could make an argument for Yarran or Carlisle being the "bigger name" than Treloar. But on quality and future room for improvement, it's fairly easily Treloar.

 

[BPikkers]

Freeman wants out & if Oxley did too, it would be a exodus with Seedsman put up for trade along with Kennedy.

Yep cleaning out the cupboard. Let's face it these guys were not going to help win a premiership. Rotate them and who knows what we may uncover

 

[JOELY]

Isn't on their website.

There is an article about GWS looking for ruckman but it says nothing about Witts. Mods I think it's time you stopped the nonsense. He's had his yearly fun.

 

[MyManLynch]

Freeman wants out & if Oxley did too, it would be a exodus with Seedsman put up for trade along with Kennedy.

Out with the old, in with the new,
Just to please Bucks & p#ss off you.

 

[Anzacday]

Hard to believe the Carlisle thread is bigger than the Danger one.

 

[joff]

Hearing a bit of word Stevie J could be coming to us in a coaching capacity

Oh dear God please no

 

[spartan-magpie]

Rockcliff. Hello. Captain at the Lions means nothing.

Maybe he's a captain in the ilk of the guy that led the Costa Concordia to ground. Certainly seems that way the way Brisbane are heading....

 

[Piestration]

Witts was the reason we pulled out of going for Kruz club would be filthy if he changed his mind to go interstate

Witts has to stay. He is one of our untouchables IMO.

 

[spartan-magpie]

The issue here is Gold Coast have put an offer in front of Cloke for more years and more money. It is not an issue about whether we should trade him or not. We don't want to. But if Cloke says he is leaving, which is an extremely remote chance of happening, then we have to get the best possible trade.

Huh? What? When did this happen? Is this hypothetical?


Cloke is contracted. But if they're really that desperate jaeger, their first pick, lynch and Ablett would fill the gaping void left in our 50.... That and they can pay abletts salary for the next 3-5 years for us.


Seriously though, is this real?

 

[Matt_352]

Top 2 targets for mine in 2016 are Hamish Hartlett and Tom Lynch. Get Treloar, Aish, then those 2 next year we would have to go bloody close in 2017.

 

[left at home]

Correct. But if the price is overs ie swap with Lynch or first rounders 2015 and 2016 by Gold coast and he WANTS to leave why not

the wants is the key, just my thinking on there is no WANTS in it

 

[jmac70]

Can you please provide us with a link to this?

There is a report on the AFL website quoting The Australian saying that GWS are targeting a mature ruckman to partner Mummy. No mention of Witts though.

 

[jmac70]

Huh? What? When did this happen? Is this hypothetical?


Cloke is contracted. But if they're really that desperate jaeger, their first pick, lynch and Ablett would fill the gaping void left in our 50.... That and they can pay abletts salary for the next 3-5 years for us.


Seriously though, is this real?

I seriously doubt the story is true.