Certified Legendary Thread Sympathy for *essendon - congratulations on '16 Wooden Spoon (RIP The Scales)

[IschenkoUBeauty]

Wat is the format of Jimmi on Abc tomorrow night?

BYO

 

[Wild Bill]

100% spot on!!




"The ramifications of the Essendon supplements regime would not have been nearly as severe if James Hird was not unconditionally celebrated as a cult football hero, says Rebecca Wilson.

She believes Hird’s standing in the game before 2012 had made him feel invincible and incapable of feeling any responsibility for future wrongdoings.

Furthermore, that cult hero status often prevented many from going harder at the former Essendon coach when he ought to have been held more accountable for his part in the saga.

“The cult of AFL celebrity in Melbourne is defined by Hird,” wrote Wilson in the Daily Telegraph.

“He is almost a religious icon, a man who has spent nearly 30 years of his life inside the bubble called Melbourne, gazing at himself in the reflection, being told, and genuinely believing, that he is perfect.”

Wilson suggests that Hird likely believes that he has genuinely done very little wrong because he has always been given the benefit of the doubt as a champion of the game.

“If you are James Hird, you never see yourself as a perpetrator. You are just James, the white haired boy in the bubble,” she added.

“You have no concept of the collateral damage you have caused in a three-year campaign that has brought your club, your players and your code to its knees.”

This week Hird has published articles in the Herald Sun with the intention of telling his side of the story for the first time without any hindrance from his Bombers or the AFL.

“Over these last two days, newspaper readers have been treated to a Hird diatribe of stunning delusion and blame laying,” claimed Wilson.

“Here in Sydney, or Brisbane, or Adelaide, the rant has raised more questions than answers. It has underlined just how conceited Hird is and how ridiculously unrepentant he remains.”


Read more at http://www.sen.com.au/news/01-16/bec-wilson-gets-personal-with-perfect-hird#RGS03i2iImTuqYIL.99

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

It's taken a while, but the tide is turning.

Only a select few delusional individuals are still in the Hird corner.

It's going to be delicious watching them come to the realisation that they have not only backed the wrong horse, but also ridden it in the wrong ****ing direction.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

Arjen: Perth? Sydney? Adelaide? What do those outsiders know? They shouldn't get involved!

 

[Gasometer]

1. Do ABC Interview tomorrow night.
2. Middle of year exclusive 'Australian Story' expose.
3. Book out for Father's Day/Christmas in Sept.
4. Announced back on Fox Footy/ Channel 7 Feb 2017

whoops...wrong copy/paste.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Damian Barrett ‏@barrettdamian 6m6 minutes ago
Part 1: I knew nothing, not my fault. Part 2: I knew nothing, not my fault. Can't wait for the ABC interview

 

[blackshadow]

While the AFL continues to rely on government funding for stadiums etc they have no choice but to continue under the ASADA/WADA banner.

The government has a much bigger stick they can wave... there's a multi billion dollar entertainment business that's currently being treated as a notice for profit organisation...

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

I refuse to believe more people want to see his bullshit side of the story compared to bashing him and * and the AFL to kingdom come.

There shouldn't be this much prolonged media about it.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

The government has a much bigger stick they can wave... there's a multi billion dollar entertainment business that's currently being treated as a notice for profit organisation...

I'm dumb; who is that?

 

[DesertRoo]

I'm dumb; who is that?

WWE's John Cena

 

[LT Smash]

Would you care if he came 8th and was left for dead at the bottom of the alps?

Interesting choice of words, as there have been professional cyclists who doped, particularly early on with EPO blood doping, and they were literally left for dead, maybe not at the bottom of the Alps, but nevertheless, DEAD. As in carked it, deceased, no longer with us. When peanuts like Sam Newman suggest that athletes should be allowed to take whatever they like, what he fails to appreciate is the risk to life that this entails. Imagine being a pro cyclist who has to set an alarm every two hours to wake up and walk around to keep your circulation working, because if you slept an 8 hour night, your artificially thickened blood would block your heart and you would never reawaken. This is why there is a need for WADA and ASADA. If you left policing of a drug code to the AFL, there would be a never ending series of negotiated outcomes where no player is ever found guilty of a drug offence, but many are slapped on the wrist for governance issues. Meanwhile, no-one cares about the players' health (especially not the players' association) and the obvious worst case scenario sees an AFL player die from a dodgy cocktail of supplements. The issue of drugs in sport is not just about cheating and gaining unfair advantage. It is about protecting the health of people not quite smart enough to realise how much harm they are doing to themselves. And if you think that doesn't matter, then perhaps we dispose of the seatbelt and motorcycle helmet laws too.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

Interesting choice of words, as there have been professional cyclists who doped, particularly early on with EPO blood doping, and they were literally left for dead, maybe not at the bottom of the Alps, but nevertheless, DEAD. As in carked it, deceased, no longer with us. When peanuts like Sam Newman suggest that athletes should be allowed to take whatever they like, what he fails to appreciate is the risk to life that this entails. Imagine being a pro cyclist who has to set an alarm every two hours to wake up and walk around to keep your circulation working, because if you slept an 8 hour night, your artificially thickened blood would block your heart and you would never reawaken. This is why there is a need for WADA and ASADA. If you left policing of a drug code to the AFL, there would be a never ending series of negotiated outcomes where no player is ever found guilty of a drug offence, but many are slapped on the wrist for governance issues. Meanwhile, no-one cares about the players' health (especially not the players' association) and the obvious worst case scenario sees an AFL player die from a dodgy cocktail of supplements. The issue of drugs in sport is not just about cheating and gaining unfair advantage. It is about protecting the health of people not quite smart enough to realise how much harm they are doing to themselves. And if you think that doesn't matter, then perhaps we dispose of the seatbelt and motorcycle helmet laws too.

And return to the days of free roaming kids who inevitably get kidnapped and killed.

But hey. Arjen doesn't want progression.

 

[LT Smash]

Damian Barrett ‏@barrettdamian 6m6 minutes ago
Part 1: I knew nothing, not my fault. Part 2: I knew nothing, not my fault. Can't wait for the ABC interview

It's amazing to see all of these journalists finally taking the gloves off. I guess Hird's cabal of mates in the media must have realised they can no longer control the story with threats and intimidation.

 

[boneofshin]

Don't use this thread for your petty little squabble. This thread is about coming together in sympathy for *Essendon.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

Don't use this thread for your petty little squabble. This thread is about coming together in sympathy for *Essendon.

I have sympathy for * as I did for Justin Bieber when his career fell apart.

 

[Marstermind]

Just read today's chapter from Jimmy. Whilst yesterday was an exercise in scatter-gunning blame all over the place (even Brendan McCartney copped a bullet...he was coaching the Bulldogs at the time!!), today was an exercise in "So???" Seems he's bitter about the way they got caught. And although the AFL didn't handle this at all well, their actions on "the day all hell broke loose" were actually a feeble effort to get the Bombers off the hook. But it doesn't matter one pissy little bit in relation to why the players got suspended. Besides, this is what Jim lobbed up at the High Court and it got absolutely smashed into itty bitty pieces. It's bullshit and no one cares.

This bit frankly shits me..."My explanation to the players is that my own trust was broken." To translate that - "My explanation to the players is that it wasn't my fault." Wow, great explanation. "I took people at their word. As the senior coach I trusted what I was told was correct." Enough already! We get it! You didn't let others down...Others let you down. And no balanced person believes this and/or feels sorry for you.

And finally..."if I were to do things differently, it would be to trust less, to ask more questions, and demand more answers." I'm always a bit fuzzy on what irony actually is but maybe it applies here. Because this quote is put forward as an excuse for what happened to Hird, but when applied to the players, it's EXACTLY what they were guilty of and why none of the 34 will play football in 2016.

 

[IschenkoUBeauty]

Don't use this thread for your petty little squabble. This thread is about coming together in sympathy for *Essendon.

COME TOGETHER.....RIGHT NOWWWWW....OVER IUB...

 

[boneofshin]

COME TOGETHER.....RIGHT NOWWWWW....OVER IUB...

NTTAWWT

 

[blackshadow]

COME TOGETHER.....RIGHT NOWWWWW....OVER IUB...

Everyone lub bukkake?

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

But hey. Arjen doesn't want progression.

I simply want my sport back.

I am at the forefront of progression.I make my living by disrupting archaic business models.

And what's with the reference to kids? Kids get kidnapped and go missing every day, I'm not sure how letting the AFL govern its own sport changes this.

If you are part of charitable organisation that protects kids, then please pm me your website and let me donate to your cause.

Interesting choice of words, as there have been professional cyclists who doped, particularly early on with EPO blood doping, and they were literally left for dead, maybe not at the bottom of the Alps, but nevertheless, DEAD. As in carked it, deceased, no longer with us. When peanuts like Sam Newman suggest that athletes should be allowed to take whatever they like, what he fails to appreciate is the risk to life that this entails. Imagine being a pro cyclist who has to set an alarm every two hours to wake up and walk around to keep your circulation working, because if you slept an 8 hour night, your artificially thickened blood would block your heart and you would never reawaken. This is why there is a need for WADA and ASADA. If you left policing of a drug code to the AFL, there would be a never ending series of negotiated outcomes where no player is ever found guilty of a drug offence, but many are slapped on the wrist for governance issues. Meanwhile, no-one cares about the players' health (especially not the players' association) and the obvious worst case scenario sees an AFL player die from a dodgy cocktail of supplements. The issue of drugs in sport is not just about cheating and gaining unfair advantage. It is about protecting the health of people not quite smart enough to realise how much harm they are doing to themselves. And if you think that doesn't matter, then perhaps we dispose of the seatbelt and motorcycle helmet laws too.

Whilst this is a great post, I'm a robust advocate for natural selection.

I also hate having to wear a seatbelt. My shirt needs ironing when I get to work which defeats the purpose of having it dry cleaned.

But anyway, If people want to cheat themselves, their sport, their family and put their reputation on the line, and die, I have no sympathy. None. People make choices and live and die by them.

I have made mine and I live with them.

 

[Harris 10]

Just read today's chapter from Jimmy. Whilst yesterday was an exercise in scatter-gunning blame all over the place (even Brendan McCartney copped a bullet...he was coaching the Bulldogs at the time!!), today was an exercise in "So???" Seems he's bitter about the way they got caught. And although the AFL didn't handle this at all well, their actions on "the day all hell broke loose" were actually a feeble effort to get the Bombers off the hook. But it doesn't matter one pissy little bit in relation to why the players got suspended. Besides, this is what Jim lobbed up at the High Court and it got absolutely smashed into itty bitty pieces. It's bullshit and no one cares.

This bit frankly shits me..."My explanation to the players is that my own trust was broken." To translate that - "My explanation to the players is that it wasn't my fault." Wow, great explanation. "I took people at their word. As the senior coach I trusted what I was told was correct." Enough already! We get it! You didn't let others down...Others let you down. And no balanced person believes this and/or feels sorry for you.

And finally..."if I were to do things differently, it would be to trust less, to ask more questions, and demand more answers." I'm always a bit fuzzy on what irony actually is but maybe it applies here. Because this quote is put forward as an excuse for what happened to Hird, but when applied to the players, it's EXACTLY what they were guilty of and why none of the 34 will play football in 2016.

I strongly suggest you read the Stand by Your Man piece written by Lucie Morris-Marr.
It has to be the lowest point in Australian journalism.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I made a video for a challenge in the bay 13 survivor competition, enjoy.

 

[Garf]

AFL and the club "chose to resist Hal's efforts to find out what he was injected with"

That is disgraceful.

About time the AFLPA took the stance to support Hal Hunter and other players who seek to know the truth. Instead they took a swipe at WADA !

Absolutely moronic !

 

[Gasometer]

I have sympathy for * as I did for Justin Bieber when his career fell apart.

Wat wait...Beiber is back...i am a Grumpy Old and know dat..

 

[utility]

Also this is an interesting article from Darren Kane.

The dude sounds pissy because he was wrong. And he failed to mention the urine samples with elevated levels of TB4.