List Mgmt. 2016 Trade and Free Agency Targets Part 1

[Choomah]

Prefer

Or Freo know that a contracted player is worth more than an uncontracted one?

well take tucker and Weller thanks

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Righto Moorabbin Ghost stavro#4 i know its only round 5 but give us some goss. Who are we chasing? Anything left field? Give us something!

stavro#4 will spew (and everybody else) but I'd be seriously looking at what it'd cost to get Jack Watts interested. I know he's a whipping boy but he's extremely talented, and in very good form. I think he can be a very high level third defender.
The whispers are he's likely to stay put at this stage though.

 

[Bleeds_RWB]

Why would he leave now? With the way they are playing it's the first year they are not the worst team in Victoria...

What a time to be alive. The big 4 Melbourne teams Carlton,essendon, Richmond, collingwood are all terrible!! Great time to be saints!! Love it!

Surely it's obvious but what gws/ Gold Coast OOC players are out there this year? Are they worth looking at? Surely they must know if they are not playing now they won't be when it matters??

 

[Strahany]

stavro#4 will spew (and everybody else) but I'd be seriously looking at what it'd cost to get Jack Watts interested. I know he's a whipping boy but he's extremely talented, and in very good form. I think he can be a very high level third defender.
The whispers are he's likely to stay put at this stage though.

We are currently spoiled with having Riewoldt on the wing, and I fear that this type of tall running target may cement itself as a key part of our gameplan which will be lost when the legend retires. As such, seeking out a Watts or a Lamb (or both) doesn't sound so absurd to be; a fresh start for the former, a return home for the latter, and a tutelage under one of the all time greats that plays with a similar style for the both of them. I can't imagine Watts would demand too much of a salary, nor would Lamb need too much on the trade table (Cripps 2.0, anyone?).

If one of them comes off, then we've secured ourselves the valuable linking/"get out of jail" marking player. If both come off, then we could have a more formidable wing play team, if it's possible to have them both in the 22.

 

[The Cavalry]

Why would he leave now? With the way they are playing it's the first year they are not the worst team in Victoria...

What a time to be alive. The big 4 Melbourne teams Carlton,essendon, Richmond, collingwood are all terrible!! Great time to be saints!! Love it!

Surely it's obvious but what gws/ Gold Coast OOC players are out there this year? Are they worth looking at? Surely they must know if they are not playing now they won't be when it matters??

GC: Jaeger O'Meara, Alex Sexton, Luke Russell, Dion Prestia, Sam Day, Tom Nicholls, Sean Lemmens, Jarrod Garlett, Adam Saad, Seb Tape

GWS: Lachie Whitfield, Caleb Marchbank, James Stewart, Jack Steele, Patrick McKenna, Jake Barrett, Jeremy Finlayson,

 

[Choomah]

I think we should throw the kitchen sink at chris mayne genuine superstar of the game 850k over 5 years for a bloke coming into his prime

 

[The Cavalry]

We are currently spoiled with having Riewoldt on the wing, and I fear that this type of tall running target may cement itself as a key part of our gameplan which will be lost when the legend retires. As such, seeking out a Watts or a Lamb (or both) doesn't sound so absurd to be; a fresh start for the former, a return home for the latter, and a tutelage under one of the all time greats that plays with a similar style for the both of them. I can't imagine Watts would demand too much of a salary, nor would Lamb need too much on the trade table (Cripps 2.0, anyone?).

If one of them comes off, then we've secured ourselves the valuable linking/"get out of jail" marking player. If both come off, then we could have a more formidable wing play team, if it's possible to have them both in the 22.

Yeh I'd like to have a look at Lamb as that 3rd Hard running FWD

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

The thing is, Free Agents cost us nothing apart from something we have PLENTY of...cap space.
Right now Watts is better than any third tall forward or defender under 32yo on our list. We have identified these positions (particularly third defender) as something we need to address.
If a player fills a need, and doesn't cost us anything in a trade I think we'd be remiss to not at least investigate.

 

[Rors]

Or Freo know that a contracted player is worth more than an uncontracted one?

My thoughts exactly. GWS are the kings of this

 

[Mowman]

Yeh I'd like to have a look at Lamb as that 3rd Hard running FWD

I think it was Defacto who was talking about Lamb the other day, mentioned he was doing ok in the WAFL

 

[The Cavalry]

The thing is, Free Agents cost us nothing apart from something we have PLENTY of...cap space.
Right now Watts is better than any third tall forward or defender under 32yo on our list. We have identified these positions (particularly third defender) as something we need to address.
If a player fills a need, and doesn't cost us anything in a trade I think we'd be remiss to not at least investigate.

Yeh agreed but at this stage would you say the club is looking at any big fish who are both OOC and contracted...B.Crouch?

 

[The Cavalry]

I think it was Defacto who was talking about Lamb the other day, mentioned he was doing ok in the WAFL

If Roo has 1-2 years left after this year then id take the punt on lamb for a cripps style trade and get roo to show him how to play the link up FWD

 

[bird_man]

I got roasted the other day for mentioning Vickery. I still think hes worth looking at. A ruck/forward that averages almost a goal and a half a game would be bloody handy.

 

[Glen Buterol]

Yeh agreed but at this stage would you say the club is looking at any big fish who are both OOC and contracted...B.Crouch?

I don't think he is OOC but I'd love him at our club

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

My thoughts exactly. GWS are the kings of this

I have no doubt that if GWS trade McCarthy last year then Weller is a Saint. Freo know Lachie was open to playing in Vic, so they re-sign him to (at worst) protect their draft investment.
If a Vic club come sniffing again then he is worth a lot more than if he was out of contract.
And when you've barely played a game and a club offers you a longer deal you take it.
I think it's unlikely but I wouldn't totally rule out Weller being traded, especially if Freo start to get even more desperate for a KPP.

 

[Strahany]

The thing is, Free Agents cost us nothing apart from something we have PLENTY of...cap space.
Right now Watts is better than any third tall forward or defender under 32yo on our list. We have identified these positions (particularly third defender) as something we need to address.
If a player fills a need, and doesn't cost us anything in a trade I think we'd be remiss to not at least investigate.

Does the club take into consideration the funny buggers that opposition clubs may play, with respect to restricted free agents? For example, do they discuss, with Melbourne, the type of wage that the Demons won't match for Watts? Or do we try to talk to the player about leaving for the draft, if absolutely necessary? I'm worried that we're a little bit tied up, due to our second round pick being already traded, if we were forced to seek a trade with Melbourne.
It would just mean that we'd have to ship off a player or two first, in order to get what is required to obtain a "matched-offer" Watts, which could be problematic, as e al know that Trade Week doesn't truly start until the last few days....

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Yeh agreed but at this stage would you say the club is looking at any big fish who are both OOC and contracted...B.Crouch?

I was a big Crouch fan but I'd be very reluctant to take him on, his body is a worry, his drinking even more so!
He's happy where he is too.

 

[Strahany]

I have no doubt that if GWS trade McCarthy last year then Weller is a Saint. Freo know Lachie was open to playing in Vic, so they re-sign him to (at worst) protect their draft investment.
If a Vic club come sniffing again then he is worth a lot more than if he was out of contract.
And when you've barely played a game and a club offers you a longer deal you take it.
I think it's unlikely but I wouldn't totally rule out Weller being traded, especially if Freo start to get even more desperate for a KPP.

Do you have any idea (either for Weller, specifically, or with respect to the general attitude of players) why Weller would've agreed to re-signing when he is aware of how keen St Kilda are on him, and how refusing to re-sign would make it infinitely easier to come home and play with his brother (which is presumably a high priority for him, based on the pre-draft talk)?

 

[Bleeds_RWB]

I got roasted the other day for mentioning Vickery. I still think hes worth looking at. A ruck/forward that averages almost a goal and a half a game would be bloody handy.

Vickery is a huge spud! From a third rate spud farm! Not tough enough and doesn't do enough unless it's delivered to him. I'd seriously reconsider our list management team if we went this way!! Terrible mention I feel!

Marchbank/Steele are the ones for me if we could target them somehow... Future picks maybe?

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Does the club take into consideration the funny buggers that opposition clubs may play, with respect to restricted free agents? For example, do they discuss, with Melbourne, the type of wage that the Demons won't match for Watts? Or do we try to talk to the player about leaving for the draft, if absolutely necessary? I'm worried that we're a little bit tied up, due to our second round pick being already traded, if we were forced to seek a trade with Melbourne.
It would just mean that we'd have to ship off a player or two first, in order to get what is required to obtain a "matched-offer" Watts, which could be problematic, as e al know that Trade Week doesn't truly start until the last few days....

If you wanted a player as a FA and he signed with you then I don't think a club would match, considering you've paid a "premium" to get him to switch clubs. And if they do I think you'd just move on.

 

[Gangnam Saint]

I think we should throw the kitchen sink at chris mayne genuine superstar of the game 850k over 5 years for a bloke coming into his prime

Get him in the door!

By goodness that is a munted head.

 

[Choomah]

Get him in the door!

By goodness that is a munted head.

God what the ****, he looks like he's about 80

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Do you have any idea (either for Weller, specifically, or with respect to the general attitude of players) why Weller would've agreed to re-signing when he is aware of how keen St Kilda are on him, and how refusing to re-sign would make it infinitely easier to come home and play with his brother (which is presumably a high priority for him, based on the pre-draft talk)?

Because he would have been mad not to take guaranteed money as a 19yo with 3 games under his belt. In this game you're one bit of bad luck away from the scrap heap.
The thing his manager would have asked him is "are you willing to gamble $400K on a chance to play in Vic"? He does his knee or breaks a leg and then nobody wants him and he's done.
And as we know, being contracted doesn't rule out being traded either.

 

[Farm Boy]

I was a big Crouch fan but I'd be very reluctant to take him on, his body is a worry, his drinking even more so!
He's happy where he is too.

Yeah, he is a broken down drunk, we don't want him.

 

[Farm Boy]

I think we should throw the kitchen sink at chris mayne genuine superstar of the game 850k over 5 years for a bloke coming into his prime

850 k over 5 years wouldn't get it done. Unless you are suggesting 850k a year over 5 years? Surely not?