Preview ROUND 14 - JUN 25 - Richmond vs. Brisbane

[Sassafras]

I wish the coaches wouldn't do the post-match press conferences, they are just filled with transparent clichés.

 

[Lsta062]

Can't remember the full quote but after the GC win, he said something like: "We don't win by big margins."

It would be good to see us annihilate an oppo team. Tigers need blood to grow and be strong.

Something like "We are not a side that wins by 100 points".

If you smash the bottom teams enough, then you'll start having some other bottom sides mentally expecting a loss and it just ends up happening.

Right now, it seems that nearly all of the bottom sides feel like they have a chance against us. We are not ruthless nor feared by them. Makes it tougher for us to beat them.

Oh well, we are one of the bottom sides now ourselves.

 

[Goldust]

Quite likely an accurate prediction.
But all coaches talk bullshit. Cliches.
Dunno why they bother, but they do. They know they're only fooling the tourists.
I don't expect him to be coaching us in 2017.

I deal with them weekly across all sports - and yes, cliche city!

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Quite likely an accurate prediction.
But all coaches talk bullshit. Cliches.
Dunno why they bother, but they do. They know they're only fooling the tourists.
I don't expect him to be coaching us in 2017.

I wish the coaches wouldn't do the post-match press conferences, they are just filled with transparent clichés.

yeah but if you think about it they are interviewed post match during the week, after the game sometimes at other times, after a while they are going to end up saying the same thing over and over.. can't expect them to come upw ith something new and original all the time.

 

[Sassafras]

All the interviews are meaningless. Journalists do all these stories because they need it to be a full time job seven days a week, when in reality the AFL just doesn't have the news content to truly fufill that properly.

 

[Helen Wheels]

yeah but if you think about it they are interviewed post match during the week, after the game sometimes at other times, after a while they are going to end up saying the same thing over and over.. can't expect them to come upw ith something new and original all the time.

Somebody said that the secret art of coaching was to tell the players the same thing over and over again but in a different way to keep it fresh.

 

[Goldust]

yeah but if you think about it they are interviewed post match during the week, after the game sometimes at other times, after a while they are going to end up saying the same thing over and over.. can't expect them to come upw ith something new and original all the time.

Because they're coaches in what to say and which messages to sell.
They are politicians. Just as Scott Morrison, Christopher Pyne, or your local Liberal MP or candidate are coaches to throw in the 'jobs and growth' sloganin the first and second sentence and again in the third or fourth sentence.
Few of the coaches are actually engaging and offer anything much up.
I reckon Clarkson is a rare beast who is actually insightful and intelligent; Beveridge brutally honest; Simpson similar; Pyke intelligent and controlled; Hardwick sadly like that guy from your amateur theatre company who can't quite remember his lines, but only got a supporting role anyways. Bolton is classic politician - flowery, whimsy and takes an eternity to get the point, when five words would have sufficed.

 

[Helen Wheels]

If you smash the bottom teams enough, then you'll start having some other bottom sides mentally expecting a loss and it just ends up happening.

Us and #lolNorf.

 

[Lsta062]

Us and #lolNorf.

Yep, it feels like we have already lost the game before the ball is bounced. Us and Geelong seem to have that relationship too

 

[Helen Wheels]

Yep, it feels like we have already lost the game before the ball is bounced. Us and Geelong seem to have that relationship too

Here's the answer. Sack the team psychologist and get a better one.
With 50% or more of the game played between the ears, we can't afford not to.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Can't wait for the meltdowns when TV is named.

 

[Ralll]

Yep, it feels like we have already lost the game before the ball is bounced. Us and Geelong seem to have that relationship too

Not to forget Melbourne and Footscray, plus the new ones in Adelaide and West Coast... I'll see myself out.
Oh but Sydney are still our bitch!!!

 

[docko911]

Can't wait for the meltdowns when TV is named.

I wonder what difference dropping Vickery and playing McBean would have on attendance.

 

[tgrs]

I wonder what difference dropping Vickery and playing McBean would have on attendance.

Packed G all for the Bean

 

[Tiger Toffee]

I wonder what difference dropping Vickery and playing McBean would have on attendance.

None, their both as bad as each other, should just go in with 21 players in reality.

 

[Tigerbob68]

Can't wait for the meltdowns when TV is named.

 

[Punt rd end]

Can't wait for the meltdowns when TV is named.

 

[Tigerbob68]

If you smash the bottom teams enough, then you'll start having some other bottom sides mentally expecting a loss and it just ends up happening.

Right now, it seems that nearly all of the bottom sides feel like they have a chance against us. We are not ruthless nor feared by them. Makes it tougher for us to beat them.

A few of us have been discussing around this point a bit in this thread. This pretty much sums it all up. If you look back at our 3 finals years, if we had more of that ruthlessness not only would our percentage have been better but maybe we would have won even one more game and made top 4 ('13 and '15).
As Goldust replied to one of my posts (sorry Goldust, haven't researched how to 'multi-quote' yet, I'm sure it's easy!!) if you drop a lot of games early your percentage becomes critical later. How much different would our season be looking now if we'd put Carlton away by a lot, knocked Collingwood into submission by half time and done the same to Port when they were weakened?? I know that no top team wins EVERY game by heaps but they do it regularly.

 

[partycorolla]

A few of us have been discussing around this point a bit in this thread. This pretty much sums it all up. If you look back at our 3 finals years, if we had more of that ruthlessness not only would our percentage have been better but maybe we would have won even one more game and made top 4 ('13 and '15).
As Goldust replied to one of my posts (sorry Goldust, haven't researched how to 'multi-quote' yet, I'm sure it's easy!!) if you drop a lot of games early your percentage becomes critical later. How much different would our season be looking now if we'd put Carlton away by a lot, knocked Collingwood into submission by half time and done the same to Port when they were weakened?? I know that no top team wins EVERY game by heaps but they do it regularly.

Good teams would also find a way to win those games.....

 

[_DBF_]

Vlastuin, Menadue for Rioli and C.Ellis



Green, McStay, Hammelmann, Mathieson, Andrews for Zorko, Harwood, C Beams, Paparone, Cutler.

 

[docko911]

What a ****ing disgrace.

 

[TheDyerLegacy]

Vickery survives.. bookmark 3-4 and a couple double bicep shots from Vickery..

Remember when people used to say Vickery straightens us up.. provides 'structure'

 

[juss]

Vlastuin and Menadue are good ins. Would have loved to see the Bean come in for Ty though.

 

[AstuteTiger]

The Round 14 Richmond team

B: Rance, Astbury, Grimes
HB: Deledio, Hunt, B. Ellis
C: Grigg, Hampson, Cotchin
HF: Martin, Conca, Lambert
F: Riewoldt, Lloyd, Vickery
R: Griffiths, Edwards, Miles
I/C: Menadue, Vlastuin, Short, Batchelor
Emg: Townsend, Broad, Castagna

In: Vlastuin, Menadue
Out: Rioli (family funeral), C. Ellis (groin)

 

[telsor]

I wonder what difference dropping Vickery and playing McBean would have on attendance.

Probably a significant drop, as it'd show we'd given up.