List Mgmt. 2016 Draft, Trading and Free Agency Thread

Moist Biscuit · Jul 24, 2016

If we get an early third round pick for Mayne, we could trade Our 3rd (39) and Mayne Compo (40) for McCarthy. Those 2 picks together equals 875 points in total, valuing it at pick 22. Would then trade our 2017 second for Brad Hill.

mike91 · Jul 24, 2016

Moist Biscuit said:
If we get an early third round pick for Mayne, we could trade Our 3rd (39) and Mayne Compo (40) for McCarthy. Those 2 picks together equals 875 points in total, valuing it at pick 22. Would then trade our 2017 second for Brad Hill.

But if we trade those two picks, don't they still remain picks 39 and 40? I don't get the points system or how it works.

mike91 · Jul 24, 2016

_DBF_ said:
Maybe I'm a bit of fanboy. He's not quick, but he has speed from the contest and is one of the few blokes we have that tackle. He has all the tools to be a good (I didn't say great) inside midfielder but lacks continuity. Every time he strings some games and gets his confidence back he's injured again and we're back to the start. I would like to hold on to him because his best is good and we need his ability to tackle. We also probably won't get what he's worth to us in a trade. I'm not saying he's a star. But you wouldn't be getting a dud. Get his hammies right and you might end up with a bargain for you second pick.

Reckon he could play as a small rebounding defender?

Moist Biscuit · Jul 24, 2016

mike91 said:
But if we trade those two picks, don't they still remain picks 39 and 40? I don't get the points system or how it works.

GWS can use those picks to match a bid up to 22. They have plenty of highly rated academy kids so still may need some picks.

theGav56 · Jul 24, 2016

Moist Biscuit said:
GWS can use those picks to match a bid up to 22. They have plenty of highly rated academy kids so still may need some picks.

Yes. They would be unlikely to actually select players with those picks.

By the way does your pick 22 bid example include the 20% discount?

Ysaye · Jul 24, 2016

The crazy bit with any of these proposed machinations for trading is that we end up with even less (decent) picks. Do we really want to be taking a draft of pick 3 then pick 60 odd and then beyond? (Particularly given many want to get rid of 6-8 players of the main list?)

blue shark · Jul 24, 2016

Ysaye said:
The crazy bit with any of these proposed machinations for trading is that we end up with even less (decent) picks. Do we really want to be taking a draft of pick 3 then pick 60 odd and then beyond? (Particularly given many want to get rid of 6-8 players of the main list?)

You have to wonder if our management are doing their job, or trying to save their career. It feels like we are
rudderless, are we following a plan, or making one up as we go?
Our best team on the park is at least competing for the top eight, having so many injuries, you have to question why.
Rather keep our cards close to our chest, than feel like the club is at rock bottom, and so many players linked to us,
makes it look desperate.

Freo · Jul 24, 2016

blue shark said:
You have to wonder if our management are doing their job, or trying to save their career. It feels like we are
rudderless, are we following a plan, or making one up as we go?
Our best team on the park is at least competing for the top eight, having so many injuries, you have to question why.
Rather keep our cards close to our chest, than feel like the club is at rock bottom, and so many players linked to us,
makes it look desperate.

The media links players to us not the club.

Nothing · Jul 24, 2016

Nick Bowen ‏@Nick_Bowen 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: Mason Wood has re-signed with @NMFCOfficial for four years. Great relief for Roos given rival interest in the emerging forward

freo1997 · Jul 24, 2016

tants said:
Nick Bowen ‏@Nick_Bowen 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: Mason Wood has re-signed with @NMFCOfficial for four years. Great relief for Roos given rival interest in the emerging forward

Ffs

wayToGo_ · Jul 24, 2016

tants said:
Nick Bowen ‏@Nick_Bowen 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: Mason Wood has re-signed with @NMFCOfficial for four years. Great relief for Roos given rival interest in the emerging forward

We were never going to get him so I'm actually glad he's staying there rather than going to Hawks or Sydney and making them even stronger.

freo1997 · Jul 24, 2016

wayToGo_ said:
We were never going to get him so I'm actually glad he's staying there rather than going to Hawks or Sydney and making them even stronger.

Whos left to get now?? Vickery dickery dock?

meima · Jul 24, 2016

wayToGo_ said:
We were never going to get him so I'm actually glad he's staying there rather than going to Hawks or Sydney and making them even stronger.

Exactly.

meima · Jul 24, 2016

freo1997 said:
Whos left to get now?? Vickery dickery dock?

You want him you can had him .

freo1997 · Jul 24, 2016

meima said:
You want him you can had him .

Nah shes right. Griffiths on the other hand

Docker82 · Jul 24, 2016

wayToGo_ said:
We were never going to get him so I'm actually glad he's staying there rather than going to Hawks or Sydney and making them even stronger.

This North are a sinking ship. Just wait until all their 30+ year old guns are gone. They'll be absolutely stuffed and the rages by Brad Scott will be absolutely amazing. Happy to see Wood play for a team like that than making a better team stronger.

meima · Jul 24, 2016

freo1997 said:
Nah shes right. Griffiths on the other hand

You can had both plus clarke and hannath , the land of giants.

freo1997 · Jul 24, 2016

meima said:
You can had both plus clarke and hannath , the land of giants.

More like spud shed. Griffiths isnt too bad.

meima · Jul 24, 2016

Docker82 said:
This North are a sinking ship. Just wait until all their 30+ year old guns are gone. They'll be absolutely stuffed and the rages by Brad Scott will be absolutely amazing. Happy to see Wood play for a team like that than making a better team stronger.

Nope, so bore with hawthorn all the time.

Docker82 · Jul 24, 2016

freo1997 said:
Nah shes right. Griffiths on the other hand

Griffiths isn't any better than Vickery and if he is then it's not by much. Both will cost decent picks (Vickery will eliminate all compensation for Mayne) and aren't much of an upgrade on Taberner (if at all) who has a lot more improvement left. I'm much happier targeting McCarthy and one or two of the others we've been linked to. Only want players from other clubs who are potential guns or are going to cost us peanuts. Griffiths turns 26 next year so he'd want to be hitting his best soon. Does one or two thing very well but just isn't that great IMO.

Sydney are the only team that's really recruited already elite KPFs semi regularly. A few youngsters have been traded and become good players (players who've been in the system 2-3 years) but I can't really think of a KPF who's been average at their first club for 5+ seasons and has gone on to be a gun at their second club.

meima · Jul 24, 2016

Docker82 said:
Griffiths isn't any better than Vickery and if he is then it's not by much. Both will cost decent picks (Vickery will eliminate all compensation for Mayne) and aren't much of an upgrade on Taberner (if at all) who has a lot more improvement left. I'm much happier targeting McCarthy and one or two of the others we've been linked to. Only want players from other clubs who are potential guns or are going to cost us peanuts. Griffiths turns 26 next year so he'd want to be hitting his best soon. Does one or two thing very well but just isn't that great IMO.

Sydney are the only team that's really recruited already elite KPFs semi regularly. A few youngsters have been traded and become good players (players who've been in the system 2-3 years) but I can't really think of a KPF who's been average at their first club for 5+ seasons and has gone on to be a gun at their second club.

I rather trial rookie kietal, darcy cameron , n.ronda and some US tall giant then getting vic, apart maybe the derby match.

eastfreo75 · Jul 24, 2016

mike91 said:
But if we trade those two picks, don't they still remain picks 39 and 40? I don't get the points system or how it works.

Here is a website that works it out for you.

https://www.draftguru.com.au/pick-value-calculator#39,40|

Works out to pick 22.

The problem is that the AFL is changing to the rules that the Northern Clubs must only use live picks.

Clems Knee · Jul 24, 2016

eastfreo75 said:
The problem is that the AFL is changing to the rules that the Northern Clubs must only use live picks.

Is this confirmed?

meima · Jul 24, 2016

By the way did anybody here know what deboer did that cause Ross put him as non playing emergency all the time. I think he still be useful in afl for team like gold coast and brisbane . Cant believe the treatment he get compare to suban, gu and clarke .

eastfreo75 · Jul 24, 2016

Clems Knee said:
Is this confirmed?

Not yet, they have taken feedback from the Clubs and see what happens.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-08/afl-looks-to-block-complex-draft-loophole

Sounds like writing on the wall.

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