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I'm just waiting for the 'Operation: Get Mayne' thread. Surely it's coming soon?
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Daniel Menzel, most recently. There are others, but my alcohol-addled brain is refusing to search the archives.
O'Meara would be our silver bullet. Get him.
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No need..it's a done deal apparently!!!
Getting Andrew Swallow out of that midfield makes Cunnington and Ziebell better players.
You just can't have the 3 of them in there.
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I'd be ok putting Cunnington up for trade.
Bloke is way too laconic
Bloke is way too laconic
Nope and the other two are much cleaner than Swallow.
Unless he can clean up the fumbles, Swallow is just about done at AFL level.
The game is too punishing on turnovers now and requires teams to be cleaner in the middle.
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Good in theory but im fairly sure you cant trade players after 1 season of being drafted. Dont quote me on this as i could be wrong.
I Think Tom Boyd was
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Youre right. My bad!
Doesn't happen often. Plus he was only one I could think of.
JOMs potential might need to be revised after 2 years away from the game with a very, very serious knee injury. What did he play - a half of football or something before he was in getting an arthroscope??
This is the key with trading with these 2 new franchises - go for there "2nd tier" talent and you'll get excellent value.
I was really disappointed when we missed out on Bruce who's been excellent for saints (GWS were wasting him in defence) - mind you I also thought the same about Jaksch who's had a horror show at Carlton with injury so far.
Then you look at Boyd who footscray paid a kings ransom for.
It's easy to see what the better trade is
Would defo take OMeara - but the price is now seriously diluted after his injuries.
GC will want experience too. Won't be too interested in Wagner I wouldnt have thought
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I wouldn't be giving next years first round pick.
It's likley to be in the top 5.
It's likley to be in the top 5.
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Carlton, St Kilda, Essendon among clubs in running for Jaeger O’Meara
Jay Clark, Herald Sun
August 25, 2016 8:35pm
WE’VE complained that free agency strongly favours the top clubs.
That all the big-name stars only ever want to go to the powerhouses in their premiership prime.
Well, non-finalists, here’s your chance.
If you can sell your vision well enough, Jaeger O’Meara might just make or break your rebuild.
As easy as it would be to follow the procession of star players to Hawthorn (and we know Clarko’s men are keen on him), there is a belief at club land that O’Meara would strongly consider looking down the ladder to find his new home.
Think Chris Judd when he left West Coast to join Carlton back in late 2007.
Like Judd, O’Meara shows all the classy hallmarks of a future captain, but instead of Juddy’s (previously) dodgy groin, O’Meara has problematic knees, after rupturing a patella tendon.
He’s hardly played footy in two years and, according to Dr Rohan White on Thursday night: “For a sport that requires agility, speed and jumping, your patella tendon is one of your most vital parts”. Hmmmmn.
Yes, this is a risky play, and it’s understood O’Meara wants a long-term mega-deal worth about $700,000 a season.
Carlton has already staked its keen interest in the Rising Star winner.
We know this because chief executive Stephen Trigg told us midyear.
“Yes, we have met (O’Meara’s manager),” Trigg said.
“A lot of the competition will be looking at Jaeger and seeing whether he can get up and play for the rest of the year to see how that knee is going.”
The medical assessment will be critical.
O’Meara would have to be encouraged by the Blues’ progress this season and a potential partnership with clearance king Patrick Cripps.
Imagine going to watch those two blokes play every week. It’s power and polish, combined.
The Saints are desperate for an established midfielder, too, after circling Brisbane captain Tom Rockliff. The move up to Moorabbin will surely help.
And Essendon is potentially better placed than everyone to land O’Meara, with the No. 1 pick in the national and preseason drafts. But does he want to rejoin forces with ex-Suns coach Guy McKenna? Maybe not.
Jaeger O’Meara and David Swallow train at Metricon Stadium.
The Suns have threatened to send O’Meara into the draft if they don’t get the premium package of top picks or star players in return for the 22-year-old, but the reality is it won’t get to that. It never does. And in Gold Coast’s case, it can’t.
The AFL simply would not allow the struggling Suns to lose one of their best players for nothing.
Otherwise, the league would have to board up the joint.
Then there is the Hawks, who have also had a strong interest in Swan Tom Mitchell and Crow Brad Crouch. Former Hawks’ list chief Chris Pelchen told the Herald Sun in March “the timing is right for Hawthorn” because they will be losing key midfielders at the same time “O’Meara will be coming into his prime”
We doubt the AFL will want the Hawks to get another gun player, as much as they do this recruiting thing better than everyone.
For equalisation sake, the bottom clubs have to get busy.
Football needs it.
Jay Clark, Herald Sun
August 25, 2016 8:35pm
WE’VE complained that free agency strongly favours the top clubs.
That all the big-name stars only ever want to go to the powerhouses in their premiership prime.
Well, non-finalists, here’s your chance.
If you can sell your vision well enough, Jaeger O’Meara might just make or break your rebuild.
As easy as it would be to follow the procession of star players to Hawthorn (and we know Clarko’s men are keen on him), there is a belief at club land that O’Meara would strongly consider looking down the ladder to find his new home.
Think Chris Judd when he left West Coast to join Carlton back in late 2007.
Like Judd, O’Meara shows all the classy hallmarks of a future captain, but instead of Juddy’s (previously) dodgy groin, O’Meara has problematic knees, after rupturing a patella tendon.
He’s hardly played footy in two years and, according to Dr Rohan White on Thursday night: “For a sport that requires agility, speed and jumping, your patella tendon is one of your most vital parts”. Hmmmmn.
Yes, this is a risky play, and it’s understood O’Meara wants a long-term mega-deal worth about $700,000 a season.
Carlton has already staked its keen interest in the Rising Star winner.
We know this because chief executive Stephen Trigg told us midyear.
“Yes, we have met (O’Meara’s manager),” Trigg said.
“A lot of the competition will be looking at Jaeger and seeing whether he can get up and play for the rest of the year to see how that knee is going.”
The medical assessment will be critical.
O’Meara would have to be encouraged by the Blues’ progress this season and a potential partnership with clearance king Patrick Cripps.
Imagine going to watch those two blokes play every week. It’s power and polish, combined.
The Saints are desperate for an established midfielder, too, after circling Brisbane captain Tom Rockliff. The move up to Moorabbin will surely help.
And Essendon is potentially better placed than everyone to land O’Meara, with the No. 1 pick in the national and preseason drafts. But does he want to rejoin forces with ex-Suns coach Guy McKenna? Maybe not.
Jaeger O’Meara and David Swallow train at Metricon Stadium.
The Suns have threatened to send O’Meara into the draft if they don’t get the premium package of top picks or star players in return for the 22-year-old, but the reality is it won’t get to that. It never does. And in Gold Coast’s case, it can’t.
The AFL simply would not allow the struggling Suns to lose one of their best players for nothing.
Otherwise, the league would have to board up the joint.
Then there is the Hawks, who have also had a strong interest in Swan Tom Mitchell and Crow Brad Crouch. Former Hawks’ list chief Chris Pelchen told the Herald Sun in March “the timing is right for Hawthorn” because they will be losing key midfielders at the same time “O’Meara will be coming into his prime”
We doubt the AFL will want the Hawks to get another gun player, as much as they do this recruiting thing better than everyone.
For equalisation sake, the bottom clubs have to get busy.
Football needs it.
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How much is Jaeger O'Meara worth?
The Gold Coast Suns made a strong stand at the end of their first year in the AFL, when they refused to trade one of their freshly-picked draftees, Josh Caddy, to Essendon.
The Suns are still angry about having been forced into mediation over a contracted player in the final few hours of the trade period, a player they got a good deal for 12 months later.
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Five years on, the club's resolve will be tested more strongly, with Jaeger O'Meara on Wednesday requesting a trade to an interstate - read, Melbourne - club.
O'Meara is an independent thinker. Who knows for how long his mind was made up, but it was a 24-hour deadline placed upon him by the Suns that brought things to a head.
When the 22-year-old spoke to his teammates some of them understood. But at least one senior player is believed to have asked why they should be happy for someone who was walking out on them.
O'Meara shapes as the most interesting player in this trade period now. Not only because of the Suns' preemptive insistence they will send him to the draft if they have to, though that's one good reason.
Will they? It's impossible to see it coming to that, because it never does, though the Suns do already have six picks in the first two rounds of the draft this year and don't need to bring many more kids in or get younger again.
Even if they get the picks they want, O'Meara and Dion Prestia leaving means they will likely be looking to bring some senior players in. Some extremely good ones, if they can.
They're not happy. "The club traded two first round selections to the GWS Giants to secure Jaeger as a 17 year old, spent 12 months developing him prior to him being eligible to make his AFL debut, saw him impress on the field in his first two seasons and have then spend the last two seasons investing time and resources into rehabilitating his knee following multiple surgeries with the club's utmost support," said Suns chairman Tony Cochrane in a club statement.
"As Jaeger doesn't qualify as a free agent, AFL rules dictate he holds no rights to determine his destination of choice. With that being the case, Jaeger is on the market to a club that can provide us compensation we are prepared to accept.
"Should an appropriate exchange not be met he will have the option to enter the draft."
Things could get very tricky here. On talent, O'Meara is an extremely good player. Many would argue he is a better prospect than Adam Treloar, who Collingwood coughed up two good first round picks for this time last year.
He is a Rising Star winner; he was a very clear winner. He is dynamic; he is skilful. He was the Suns' second best player after he had played just his first few games there.
Who has what it will take to get him? Hawthorn, perhaps. Brad Hill going might help. Though the Hawks are also believed to be in for Tom Mitchell, and their picks won't be great ones.
Carlton? Maybe. They could probably find a way. North Melbourne? Perhaps, though the Suns don't think that's where he wants to go. Richmond have prioritised Prestia.
Collingwood doesn't have one first round pick as it stands, let alone two. It's difficult to imagine see a reunion with Guy McKenna at Essendon, though the Bombers have the No.1 pick and the first preseason one.
Sydney? They could do with his polish, though he seems determined to play in Melbourne. St Kilda? They seem a good fit. But that brings up to part two of the intrigue: O'Meara's injury.
The Saints found out with Nathan Freeman last year that no matter how much work you put into understanding an injured player's problems, to bring one in comes at great risk.
O'Meara's injury was a very bad one: a ruptured patella tendon. He hasn't played a senior AFL game in more than two years. His body didn't cope well when he tried to come back this year.
Even putting his his ability to get back to what he was aside, he has missed two years of development at a hugely important age.
O'Meara would have earned a lot of money, had he stayed on the Gold Coast. The club had upped their two year-offer and will rightly feel disappointed he has not given them more time.
He would have been around people who have an intimate understanding of what his body can and can't do, and what it should be able to get back to doing.
Wherever he goes, O'Meara is likely to be paid well, in the $600-700,000 ballpark, one would think. Should that be the case, the Suns' demands can't be dismissed as unreasonable.
This one will be fascinating, though. How much can you responsibly offer a highly talented 22-year-old who hasn't played a game in two years, and how do you get the deal done? We have six more weeks to talk about it.
The Gold Coast Suns made a strong stand at the end of their first year in the AFL, when they refused to trade one of their freshly-picked draftees, Josh Caddy, to Essendon.
The Suns are still angry about having been forced into mediation over a contracted player in the final few hours of the trade period, a player they got a good deal for 12 months later.
Rohan Connolly previews all the footy action ahead of the last round of the 2016 AFL home and away season.
Five years on, the club's resolve will be tested more strongly, with Jaeger O'Meara on Wednesday requesting a trade to an interstate - read, Melbourne - club.
O'Meara is an independent thinker. Who knows for how long his mind was made up, but it was a 24-hour deadline placed upon him by the Suns that brought things to a head.
When the 22-year-old spoke to his teammates some of them understood. But at least one senior player is believed to have asked why they should be happy for someone who was walking out on them.
O'Meara shapes as the most interesting player in this trade period now. Not only because of the Suns' preemptive insistence they will send him to the draft if they have to, though that's one good reason.
Will they? It's impossible to see it coming to that, because it never does, though the Suns do already have six picks in the first two rounds of the draft this year and don't need to bring many more kids in or get younger again.
Even if they get the picks they want, O'Meara and Dion Prestia leaving means they will likely be looking to bring some senior players in. Some extremely good ones, if they can.
They're not happy. "The club traded two first round selections to the GWS Giants to secure Jaeger as a 17 year old, spent 12 months developing him prior to him being eligible to make his AFL debut, saw him impress on the field in his first two seasons and have then spend the last two seasons investing time and resources into rehabilitating his knee following multiple surgeries with the club's utmost support," said Suns chairman Tony Cochrane in a club statement.
"As Jaeger doesn't qualify as a free agent, AFL rules dictate he holds no rights to determine his destination of choice. With that being the case, Jaeger is on the market to a club that can provide us compensation we are prepared to accept.
"Should an appropriate exchange not be met he will have the option to enter the draft."
Things could get very tricky here. On talent, O'Meara is an extremely good player. Many would argue he is a better prospect than Adam Treloar, who Collingwood coughed up two good first round picks for this time last year.
He is a Rising Star winner; he was a very clear winner. He is dynamic; he is skilful. He was the Suns' second best player after he had played just his first few games there.
Who has what it will take to get him? Hawthorn, perhaps. Brad Hill going might help. Though the Hawks are also believed to be in for Tom Mitchell, and their picks won't be great ones.
Carlton? Maybe. They could probably find a way. North Melbourne? Perhaps, though the Suns don't think that's where he wants to go. Richmond have prioritised Prestia.
Collingwood doesn't have one first round pick as it stands, let alone two. It's difficult to imagine see a reunion with Guy McKenna at Essendon, though the Bombers have the No.1 pick and the first preseason one.
Sydney? They could do with his polish, though he seems determined to play in Melbourne. St Kilda? They seem a good fit. But that brings up to part two of the intrigue: O'Meara's injury.
The Saints found out with Nathan Freeman last year that no matter how much work you put into understanding an injured player's problems, to bring one in comes at great risk.
O'Meara's injury was a very bad one: a ruptured patella tendon. He hasn't played a senior AFL game in more than two years. His body didn't cope well when he tried to come back this year.
Even putting his his ability to get back to what he was aside, he has missed two years of development at a hugely important age.
O'Meara would have earned a lot of money, had he stayed on the Gold Coast. The club had upped their two year-offer and will rightly feel disappointed he has not given them more time.
He would have been around people who have an intimate understanding of what his body can and can't do, and what it should be able to get back to doing.
Wherever he goes, O'Meara is likely to be paid well, in the $600-700,000 ballpark, one would think. Should that be the case, the Suns' demands can't be dismissed as unreasonable.
This one will be fascinating, though. How much can you responsibly offer a highly talented 22-year-old who hasn't played a game in two years, and how do you get the deal done? We have six more weeks to talk about it.
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Until we hear that we are in the frame, I'm not going to bother with this idea.
I reckon it's something brewing deep dark and quiet.
Just like a thousand odd AFL journos didn't pick up on or speculate on our recent retirements.
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Massively. A fit O'Meara is a better player than Cunnington, but a fit O'Meara is two seasons ago.
if we are trading an established player like Ben I'd hope we are getting the sweetener back.
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