Traded Tom Mitchell [traded to Hawthorn with pick 57 for pick 14 & 52]

[bradburygold]

Mitchell is absolute elite at his position at the age of 23. If he went through the draft he'd go at 1/2 this year. If they're multiple suiters, he could get 2xlate first rounders, so Hawthorn's 2016 & 2017 first round picks. JOM is worth significantly less imo. Mitchell really isn't as slow as others described and skills are decent.

In terms of midfielder ranking purely from an inside/clearance perspective I'd have Mitchell 3rd
1. Cripps
2. Bontempelli
3. Mitchell

For purely clearances/inside surely josh kennedy is 1...agree with the rest tho, matt crouch pushing hard for 5th

 

[FlowersByIrene]

For purely clearances/inside surely josh kennedy is 1...agree with the rest tho, matt crouch pushing hard for 5th

Lol when did he kill Patty Cripps??

 

[Procrastinator35]

Mitchell is absolute elite at his position at the age of 23. If he went through the draft he'd go at 1/2 this year. If they're multiple suiters, he could get 2xlate first rounders, so Hawthorn's 2016 & 2017 first round picks. JOM is worth significantly less imo. Mitchell really isn't as slow as others described and skills are decent.

In terms of young midfielder ranking purely from an inside/clearance perspective I'd have Mitchell 3rd
1. Cripps
2. Bontempelli
3. Mitchell

Deary oh....Mitchell is behind all of Kennedy, Parker & Hannebery....And that's just at Sydney.

They can't match our offer & he's out of contract.

Time to step back into the real world.

 

[bradburygold]

Deary oh....Mitchell is behind all of Kennedy, Parker & Hannebery....And that's just at Sydney.

They can't match our offer & he's out of contract.

Time to step back into the real world.

Did u read his whole post? "Purely" inside. Parker and hannes offer far more on the inside and are fairly similar inside hence they get more $ and minutes rightly so

 

[Procrastinator35]

Did u read his whole post?

twice, now thrice....Delusional still flashes up in lights.

 

[Prochard123]

twice, now thrice....Delusional still flashes up in lights.

Pretty sure others are allowed to have an opinion

 

[Damon_3388]

Did u read his whole post? "Purely" inside. Parker and hannes offer far more on the inside and are fairly similar inside hence they get more $ and minutes rightly so

Even still, until he actually shows it, it's a stretch to claim that he's an elite inside mid. Understandably, it might be partially due to the dominance of his teammates and the opportunity he gets to play a certain role, but he's not even top 3 at his own club for contested possessions or clearances, so it takes a bit of imagination and projection to put him in the truly elite company in that area of the game.

Sydney Swans, 2016

Clearances Per Game
Josh Kennedy - 7.73 (#2 in the league)
Luke Parker - 6.13 (#11 in the league)
Daniel Hannebury - 5.04 (#27 in the league)
Tom Mitchell - 3.52 (#61 in the league)
Kieren Jack - 3.41

Contested Possessions Per Game
Josh Kennedy - 16.91 (#1 in the league)
Luke Parker - 14.04 (#7 in the league)
Daniel Hannebury - 13.70 (#9 in the league)
Tom Mitchell - 11.78 (#22 in the league)
Kieren Jack - 9.68

 

[bradburygold]

Pretty sure others are allowed to have an opinion

Not on the main board apparently

 

[Prochard123]

Even still, until he actually shows it, it's a stretch to claim that he's an elite inside mid. Understandably, it might be partially due to the dominance of his teammates and the opportunity he gets to play a certain role, but he's not even top 3 at his own club for contested possessions or clearances, so it takes a bit of imagination and projection to put him in the truly elite company in that area of the game.

Sydney Swans, 2016

Clearances Per Game
Josh Kennedy - 7.73 (#2 in the league)
Luke Parker - 6.13 (#11 in the league)
Daniel Hannebury - 5.04 (#27 in the league)
Tom Mitchell - 3.52 (#61 in the league)
Kieren Jack - 3.41

Contested Possessions Per Game
Josh Kennedy - 16.91 (#1 in the league)
Luke Parker - 14.04 (#7 in the league)
Daniel Hannebury - 13.70 (#9 in the league)
Tom Mitchell - 11.78 (#22 in the league)
Kieren Jack - 9.68

True but part of the reason why Mitchell is considering leaving is due to the competition for midfield spot at Sydney. He has been played as a tagger, a half forward, an outside midfielder all for extensive parts of the year. These roles are not clearance stat friendly, but when he does play that complete inside role, he usually dominates.

 

[bradburygold]

Even still, until he actually shows it, it's a stretch to claim that he's an elite inside mid. Understandably, it might be partially due to the dominance of his teammates and the opportunity he gets to play a certain role, but he's not even top 3 at his own club for contested possessions or clearances, so it takes a bit of imagination and projection to put him in the truly elite company in that area of the game.

Sydney Swans, 2016

Clearances Per Game
Josh Kennedy - 7.73 (#2 in the league)
Luke Parker - 6.13 (#11 in the league)
Daniel Hannebury - 5.04 (#27 in the league)
Tom Mitchell - 3.52 (#61 in the league)
Kieren Jack - 3.41

Contested Possessions Per Game
Josh Kennedy - 16.91 (#1 in the league)
Luke Parker - 14.04 (#7 in the league)
Daniel Hannebury - 13.70 (#9 in the league)
Tom Mitchell - 11.78 (#22 in the league)
Kieren Jack - 9.68

The coach doesnt play him inside so the stats show just how good he is for his limited minutes there

 

[Procrastinator35]

Sydney also have Heeney & Mills ready to step up & fill the void, along with Jack & McVeigh....Mids are the least of their concerns.

If he was THAT good they'd offer him more to keep him.

Just because Hawthorn is chasing a player doesn't immediately raise their stock 2x.....We're seeing it with O'Meara, Vickery & Mitchell

Delusional & hysterical media & posters, laced with envy & salt....It''s a crack-up.

 

[Prochard123]

Sydney also have Heeney & Mills ready to step up & fill the void, along with Jack & McVeigh....Mids are the least of their concerns.

If he was THAT good they'd offer him more to keep him.

Just because Hawthorn is chasing a player doesn't immediately raise their stock 2x.....We're seeing it with O'Meara, Vickery & Mitchell

Delusional & hysterical media & posters, laced with envy & salt....It''s a crack-up.

Alright you need to calm down...

 

[bradburygold]

Sydney also have Heeney & Mills ready to step up & fill the void, along with Jack & McVeigh....Mids are the least of their concerns.

If he was THAT good they'd offer him more to keep him.

Just because Hawthorn is chasing a player doesn't immediately raise their stock 2x.....We're seeing it with O'Meara, Vickery & Mitchell

Delusional & hysterical media & posters, laced with envy & salt....It''s a crack-up.

Thanks for adding to the thread. Hope u win next week

 

[Procrastinator35]

Alright you need to calm down...

Thanks for adding to the thread. Hope u win next week

???

Are you 2 sharing a bed or something?

 

[bradburygold]

???

Are you 2 sharing a bed or something?

Wow now the real trolling. So if titch is no good you'll take a 2nd rounder ? Done

 

[Procrastinator35]

Wow now the real trolling. So if titch is no good you'll take a 2nd rounder ? Done

Sorry mate, but you lost me 3 posts ago.

 

[JG22]

Should stay at the Swans if he could get to the 5 mark

 

[Steven Tyler]

Wow now the real trolling. So if titch is no good you'll take a 2nd rounder ? Done

P35 is a Hawks fan
I think you misread his post

 

[Groater]

If Saints put pick 10 on the table for Mitchell and steak knives would there be any interest?

 

[Caj]

If Saints put pick 10 on the table for Mitchell and steak knives would there be any interest?

I'm sure the Swans would jump at a top 10 pick, whether Mitchell and his old man would agree to a different club is another thing

 

[halfback dasher]

I'm sure the Swans would jump at a top 10 pick, whether Mitchell and his old man would agree to a different club is another thing

Very astute adding his dad

 

[Ace Cannon]

pick 13-14 and Langford is about right .

 

[cdcanman]

pick 13-14 and Langford is about right .

I believe the Langford family has spent a considerable amount of time living in Sydney.
Know idea if he would be open to leaving Hawthorn or if Sydney have any use for him.
They may have use for a run-with mid if Mitchell leaves. Either way, not sure Langford really shifts the needle at the trade table anyhow

 

[Caj]

Very astute adding his dad

Is there any concern that the Phil Scully rule could be invoked here?

 

[halfback dasher]

Is there any concern that the Phil Scully rule could be invoked here?

Just RETURNING to a previous employer
So wouldn't think so .