GWS only have 1640pts once pick 15 is taken away and pick 2 not included. Setterfield and Perryman are both likely top 10 even top 5 for Setterfield possibly. If they both get bids in the top 12 that would roughly cost more then 2500 pts. GWS won't want to carry 900pts over into 2017 as it moves their 1st round pick back 900pts. GWS will definitely 100% require pick 5 or 13 this year. Blues want cats 2017 1st round pick in their chase for Fyfe as freo might match and make them trade which the cats pick helps. Saints have done the same thing.
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Gibbs would start the year as the 2nd best and Finish the year as the 4th best mid in the Crows in 2017 behind, Sloane Matt and Brad Crouch, s**t he may even get pushed to 5th or 6th depending on CC, Milera, Atkins, and a few others.
Gibbs is a huge like but not a must have. therefor I hope we don't pay overs.
Cameron would be in your top 10 players ... our duds went in your team and were instant top 10 players...
Fair enough comment but off the mark. What happens is nobody in Victoria really notices our good players. Dangerfield was a star before he left, came runner up in the brownlow the year before he went back (Fyfe didn't play this year). People suddenly see him every week and think he came from out of nowhere but reality was he'd been playing that way for years.
Betts was always a great player, remember him and Yarran dominating games. Both just lost their way a bit. Sauce was always good but you used your number 1 pick on Krezuer so needed to play him first, Jacobs just moved for opportunity for game time.
Not personal as you wrote a thought out post, but can't help but think it reads like typical Victorian bias. Some good points tho around Sticks, a Glenelg legend like Gibbs Snr
Yeah but GWS and Tigers might want to do a deal for next years Cats first rounder that they will get from Carlton for Marchbank.
I still think the deal will get done but I suspect we will keep Lyons pick to use in this draft.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love him here (notwithstanding I think it's crap he's walking away from a 5 year contract - personal issues aside).I found that last bit mildly amusing.
Naturally I disagree and even if I was to remove my "navy blue goggles", I'd still disagree.
He has precise delivery over long distances and Walker, Lynch & Jenkins will do very well out of the silver service they'd get from Gibbs.
If he isn't worth the kitchen sink, then who on the open market right now is ??
Rockliff is a good player but is a disruptive influence, outside of that, I don't think there is one, well a "proven" one that is.
But the players you throw the sink at are the elite - which I don't think he is. And as you point out, none are on the market this year. Doesn't mean we go overboard on the next in line.
I think our clock is ticking, but it's not end of the world stuff yet. Would need to have a huge post season next year tho.
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'Dessicated' Thompson?! Last I looked I reckon he was in one piece.
I believe the word you may have been seeking was 'decimated'?
Either way, I agree with your sentiment
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Would love to see this. Him and/or Cameron
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Nah I think he meant dessicated
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Thanks for the well thought out reply.
It is obviously difficult for me to take off the Victorian and Blues goggles and be neutral.
I do think that Sticks leaving as president (which basically means Sticks no longer being at the club every day from dawn to dark) has had an impact on Gibbs.
Sticks was his rock all through his career. He is gone.
Gibbs does not have a lot of close friends among the playing group so losing a close family friend contact on a day to day basis in Sticks would have had a big impact.
The Gibbs family name is HUGE in Adelaide, everyone knows it. I am not kidding when I say much to my chagrin, that Gibbs will go from a top 50-100 AFL footballer for the Blues to the somewhere in the top 50 AFLplayers for Adelaide. It is all set up and points that way. Name another club where Gibbs would play better? It is the natural fit.
He will be back HOME.
When Gibbs fires it will hurt just as much every game as it does for Betts.
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From what I saw this year.
Crouch ain't winning no Brownlow in 2017..
Just no progression. He's forgotten how to get on his bike. Seems happy to stand back n watch. Dishes out a few handballs if the pill comes his way.
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If you agree with the B&F results through 2015/16, then Cameron's in our top 10 players too.
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I might be ok with throwing in our 2017 first but only if we get thier 2017 second in return.
It's a gamble but it ultimately may only be a slight downgrade of 5-6 spots as we should at least hold ground and there's a good chance they slide with sides like GC, Ess and Fremantle expected to rise up the ladder.
I was completely against it at first but it might be a risk worth taking.
It's a gamble but it ultimately may only be a slight downgrade of 5-6 spots as we should at least hold ground and there's a good chance they slide with sides like GC, Ess and Fremantle expected to rise up the ladder.
I was completely against it at first but it might be a risk worth taking.
I don't know? But we handle you Menzel as compensation lmao
He'll improve, missing an entire year of footy is pretty massive for a young kid, if he can get a full preseason in he'll be a completely different player.
Brilliant post and thank you. All that points stuff does my head in.
So we're still well and truly alive here and also GWS will also need currency now for Delidio.
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Given they are very happy with the Tuohy trade because it gives them a first rounder to deal with GWS without us - it shows it is personal. Tuohy is a pretty good player (8th in their B&F) and they gave him away for about a 5 pick upgrade from the second round - go from 22 to maybe 16-17. I dont even in count Smedts as he is spud and wouldnt be in the Cats best 30. But they see the trade as a win because it gives leverage against - very dirty on the last few years. We are paying for their list managers errors
With Lyons wanting GC should the Crows target the Jaeger bomb! Pick #13, next years first rounder and Lyons? or less, don't care but should we make a late play?
Umm he was top 15 in Brownlow in a struggling team . I think he is already there. Check out his tackle and contested possession stats
nope it's a 10 pick upgrade on this years numbers. Compo picks etc. it will also net us Marchbank and Pickett
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I'm getting a bit tired this narrative being pushed by carlton fans, that we're in our window so we should make it happen. If the price is too high, I'd be comfortable going to the draft and then targeting Rockliff, Martin etc. as FA's next year. We'd be better off in the long term and there is no guarantee that Gibbs will get us to where we need to be anyway.
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