Play Nice 2016 Presidential Election Part 4 - President-Elect Trump

[Jello_B]

Below average doesn't automatically mean dumb.
I can see Australia being at the same level as Americans nowadays especially when most take opinions as facts.

I agree (not sure why you are saying that to me, I was saying that the Americans are not dumb, and that an IQ of 98 is about average, but anyways).
When studying with American students it felt a similar standard to Australian Universities. I can't comment on the opinions / facts comment.

 

[Procrastinator35]

You're both on the same side but bickering?

Sides?

 

[Taylor]

At what point is someone considered to have a bias?

There must be a stage between being sure of the facts of your position and no longer hearing debate on it

 

[Procrastinator35]

At what point is someone considered to have a bias?

There must be a stage between being sure of the facts of your position and no longer hearing debate on it

Well, for a start....Facts don't align themselves with any specific left/right ideological paradigm.

 

[Taylor]

Well, for a start....Facts don't align themselves with any specific left/right ideological paradigm.

I didn't suggest they did

 

[Gough]

At what point is someone considered to have a bias?

There must be a stage between being sure of the facts of your position and no longer hearing debate on it

When paedo pizza shop stories are treated as gospel, we're beyond that already.

 

[Maggie5]

I agree (not sure why you are saying that to me, I was saying that the Americans are not dumb, and that an IQ of 98 is about average, but anyways).
When studying with American students it felt a similar standard to Australian Universities. I can't comment on the opinions / facts comment.

I suppose I was saying that although Americans not dumb, not that smart either and that average intelligence is not necessarily a good measure.
So probably disagreeing with you in that they seem to be easily taken in by opinion and not facts. Not unlike what happens in Australia.

 

[Procrastinator35]

When paedo pizza shop stories are treated as gospel, we're beyond that already.

True....Like a politician could ever be a pedophile, eh?

 

[Jello_B]

I suppose I was saying that although Americans not dumb, not that smart either and that average intelligence is not necessarily a good measure.
So probably disagreeing with you in that they seem to be easily taken in by opinion and not facts. Not unlike what happens in Australia.

As I said I can't comment on your last point about opinions / facts, so not sure how you can disagree with something I have not commented on.
Glad you agree that Americans are not dumb.

 

[Maggie5]

As I said I can't comment on your last point about opinions / facts, so not sure how you can disagree with something I have not commented on.
Glad you agree that Americans are not dumb.

Not sure saying that they are not too smart agrees with you but anyway, 1st of a New year so take it any way that makes you comfortable.

 

[Messenger]

Ok. I will admit I was wrong about the executive order. Mark Zuckerberg has ordered that supposed fake news be blocked from his social media platforms.
As for Obama's motivation for war, you seriously cannot deny it. Obama stated back in 2015 that he would win a third term if he was allowed to run. He has also stated that he would have beaten Trump. Why is Obama placing more sanctions on Russia? Why has he stated that they also have the option of carrying out covert actions against Russia? You do know that placing sanctions against a country is considered an act of war!
Luckily for everyone, Putin is ignoring Obama and taking the piss out of a toothless president. Putin knows once Trump is elected, all of the sanctions are gone. Not just the ones that were placed on Russia based upon the phoney accusations that the Kremlin was behind the email hacks that only released the truth about the DNC.

I can deny it. The use of expulsion as a diplomatic tool is accepted practice, the only point of interest being the large number of people being sent out.

I'd be more concerned about the number of rings Putin is about to run around dear old Donald. He's hopelessly unprepared for dealing with Russia.

 

[Lebbo73]

I can deny it. The use of expulsion as a diplomatic tool is accepted practice, the only point of interest being the large number of people being sent out.

I'd be more concerned about the number of rings Putin is about to run around dear old Donald. He's hopelessly unprepared for dealing with Russia.

As I have said on multiple occasions, I don't trust Putin or Trump. However, the MSM has definitely shaped your opinions about Putin. That is alright. Your shoes were on my feet up until the end of the last decade.

 

[GreyCrow]

I think that the biggest issue for Trump will be that of accountability. Being President of the USA is not like being president of your own company, and nothing I've seen thus far suggests he understands that.

I said something similar a while ago. Yes Trump can bring fresh air to a stale swamp, but he doesn't know how to , or wont bother, working inside a system that has its checks and balances. Right or wrong they seem to work

For Trump to want to change things and be told '' you cant do that'' will make for interesting viewing.

 

[GreyCrow]

Has every Republican president been dumb or is that a construct another entity has overlaid?

I have no doubt Trump is an extremely intelligent man. I just think its skewed to one mindset ( business) rather than the one he will find himself constrained by.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

You're both on the same side but bickering?

Wtf?!?!?

1) ive said his stuff is delusional conspiracy theory garbage. How the **** am i "on his side"???

2) a big problem i have many such as you is this notion that there are sides. Politics is about ideas, leadership, and looking after and representing the people. its not a game wjere everything is black and white, and youre a winner or a loser

People cheering terrorist attacks or dictators because it hurts the other side is disgusting, but the norm for some posters here like yourself

 

[yebiga]

Wtf?!?!?

1) ive said his stuff is delusional conspiracy theory garbage. How the **** am i "on his side"???

2) a big problem i have many such as you is this notion that there are sides. Politics is about ideas, leadership, and looking after and representing the people. its not a game wjere everything is black and white, and youre a winner or a loser

People cheering terrorist attacks or dictators because it hurts the other side is disgusting, but the norm for some posters here like yourself

Well! that was a bit unexpected!
Ok bicker away.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Wtf?!?!?

1) ive said his stuff is delusional conspiracy theory garbage. How the **** am i "on his side"???

2) a big problem i have many such as you is this notion that there are sides. Politics is about ideas, leadership, and looking after and representing the people. its not a game wjere everything is black and white, and youre a winner or a loser

People cheering terrorist attacks or dictators because it hurts the other side is disgusting, but the norm for some posters here like yourself

Keep your pants on snookums....I didn't see any refutations from you about the shadow govt.

Put up or shut up sweet-pea.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Keep your pants on snookums....I didn't see any refutations from you about the shadow govt.

Put up or shut up sweet-pea.

I have no interest in debating whether or not fairies live at the bottom of my garden.

We have a delusional conspiracy board for a reason, and I don't post there because I have no interest in crack pot fantasies of people who get their lols mocking the dead

 

[Procrastinator35]

I have no interest in debating whether or not fairies live at the bottom of my garden.

We have a delusional conspiracy board for a reason, and I don't post there because I have no interest in crack pot fantasies of people who get their lols mocking the dead

Wow....A Clayton's rebuttal served chilled.

conspiracy
kənˈspɪrəsi/
noun

1. a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
   "a conspiracy to destroy the government"
   synonyms: plot, scheme, stratagem, plan, machination, cabal; More
   • the action of plotting or conspiring.
     "they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice"
     synonyms: plotting, collusion, intrigue, connivance, machination, collaboration;
     treason
     "he was due to stand trial for conspiracy to murder"

The term 'Conspiratory-Theory' was coined by the administration investigating the JFK assassination....They used/applied it to anyone questioning the 'Warren-commissions" findings...It's connotations are that of a tricksters (AKA C.I.A propaganda technique) to slur, demean & render anyone questioning their 'official line' as a 'nutjob & 'Tin-foil-hat-wearer'.

Keep this in mind the next time you use it, captain subtlely-brainwashed.

 

[cannot]

I have no interest in debating whether or not fairies live at the bottom of my garden.

We have a delusional conspiracy board for a reason, and I don't post there because I have no interest in crack pot fantasies of people who get their lols mocking the dead

successfully programmed

 

[Moody Blue]

No....That's not what a shadow Govt either means, entails nor infers.

What I am speaking of is the massive & substantial increase in all the secret services & the military....The eradication of transparency & the hiding behind 'That's classified' as a means to evade checks & balances.....The very things used to 'justify' WMD, Wars, 'Closed investigations', The Patriot Act, The denial of Habeus Corpus & illegal internment.

Want to see this in action for yourself?....Flick onto Amicus Humani Generis on You-tube, & watch Trey Gowdy grilling all these agencies heads in Congress, over these past 6 months.

You will be shocked & appalled at how they all think they are 'over & above' Congress & not answerable to the government, & ipso facto, the people.

Do yourself a favor & watch it....There is also the unaccounted for 9 trillion in the Fed Reserve....But we'll leave that for another discussion.

The U.S government is fully corrupted & rotten to it's core.

Trey Gowdy is another loud mouthed self serving Tea Party Republican.The same morons that encouraged George W Bush during his appalling Presidency. All these checks and balances that have been removed, was done by George W, and the people accepted them, like the German people did when Hitler came to power.

The US Govt is corrupt and rotten to its core, as are the Chinese, Russian, African, EU and Indian Govts. It just demonstrates that irrespective of race, creed or color all of our leaders are just not up to it.

 

[madmug]

Trey Gowdy is another loud mouthed self serving Tea Party Republican.The same morons that encouraged George W Bush during his appalling Presidency. All these checks and balances that have been removed, was done by George W, and the people accepted them, like the German people did when Hitler came to power.

The US Govt is corrupt and rotten to its core, as are the Chinese, Russian, African, EU and Indian Govts. It just demonstrates that irrespective of race, creed or color all of our leaders are just not up to it.

So I guess everyone needs to 'drain the swamp'

 

[Moody Blue]

Was it you that said the weeks after the election has seen classic CIA tactics?

It's looking more and more like Obama and his minions want to have a coup and keep Obama in the WH against the incoming admin. Provoking another country to war seems to fail so they probably will look to do a large scale false flag as their last option. Maybe take down the electrical grid and blame the Russian hackers again. Let Soros fund some riot groups and suspend the election.

Those sceptical about the grid hacking false flag, the US invited China and Russia to participate in Grid Ex. II.

Bit rich considering Bubya stole the 2000 election with the help of his brother who was the Governor of Florida at the time. Bubya started two wars, bankrupted the US, ignored Al Qaeda threats, but Obama is the power hungry dictator. No excuses for the Republicans, they have both Houses, and the White House. Let's see if their ideology works, and trickle down economics works.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Bit rich considering Bubya stole the 2000 election with the help of his brother who was the Governor of Florida at the time. Bubya started two wars, bankrupted the US, ignored Al Qaeda threats, but Obama is the power hungry dictator. No excuses for the Republicans, they have both Houses, and the White House. Let's see if their ideology works, and trickle down economics works.

I don't see anyone excusing the criminal actions of the 'boy-puppet'....Indeed, it was his administration that began this 'reign of terror', under Cheney & Rumsfeld....2 mass-murdering psychopaths, who should have been 'fried' in the chair for treason & crimes against humanity, years ago. But that is just the point.

Instead of correcting those errors of the previous 'cabal', this C.I.A, bush 'implant' has continued & expanded their 'reign of terror', by bombing & killing in 8 countries instead of just 2....Instead of repealing the anti-democratic & Draconian 'Patriot-act', he has in effect eradicated Habeus corpus....The Middle East & North Africa have been turned into chaos & are now hives for C.I.A & NATO-Trained 'terror-squads', murdering innocent civilians at will.

On top of all that. Obama has done nothing to improve people's lot at home, with 55% of taxes contributing to the military industrial complex.

Democrats just don't seem to get it...This boy is 'a wolf in sheep's clothing'....There is zero that's progressive about him....Both the Clintons, he & Kerry have effectively destroyed everything the Democratic party has ever stood for, by aligning themselves with Wall Street & 'Big-Oil'....There is now, effectively, no difference between them & the Republicans....They have become the party of 'the elite' & lefty liberals in this forum can't even see that.

The Democrats are suppose to be the party of the people. Of humanitarian values espousing liberty, freedom & progress....Under Obama, they have been the polar opposite of that....And that's why Trump won....Because, believe it or not, he was to the left of Hilary.

 

[Messenger]

True....Like a politician could ever be a pedophile, eh?

Whoa, Nelly.

We're not talking about one person being a paedophile; "pizzagate" is a confection about a conspiracy at the highest level of the US government. It's utter bollocks.