Changes for Richm'd (see team in OP, Aish & Broomy in, Varcoe out, Cox omit, & Daicos an emergency!)

[nahnah]

Thanks guys, I think. I was going off the afl.com injury list...
Lesson learned.

You think or you know? Take ownership of your ideologies

 

[Unknown Identity]

I am of the opinion that if Cox is to be persisted with in the FWD 50 then Daicos or Kirby (or both) need to be selected to sit at his feet.

No point having a 7 foot giant without decent crumbing forwards.

As a team we are kind of in Limbo, Buckley wants to make finals to save his job, we probably don't have a list capable of making or contending finals with our backline deficiencies (also defensive structures) and our shockingly poor disposal inside 50.

I'd like to see Daicos, Kirby and Brown all feature heavily this year.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I'm not giving up hope after a 14 point loss to the reigning premier after giving up a three goal head start.

Daicos will get his chances. Kirby and brown are a way off.

 

[Scodog10]

Just a dumb question - could Schade fill Goldsack's role(whatever that's meant to be)? I just haven't seen enough of Schade to know what he's capable of.

Definitely not a dumb question. We get too immobile with all of Reid, Dunn and Schade, IMO. We're close to the only team playing three 195cm+ players in the forward third across the league right now so three KPD's isn't ideal.

 

[Kilmo]

I'm not giving up hope after a 14 point loss to the reigning premier after giving up a three goal head start.

Daicos will get his chances. Kirby and brown are a way off.

Kirby maybe, but Brown looked more ready than Daicos before he got sick, and he wasn't sick for very long. Just unfortunate he missed the JLT

 

[unplugged]

Was listed on last Monday's club injury report...

Wonder how long Wells will stay as 2-3...

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

What's the height difference between Dunn and Goldsack? Given Goldy doesn't contribute that much around the ground (low disposal count) maybe there's not a lot of difference...

And playing all three frees up Dunn or Reid to go forward..

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Kirby maybe, but Brown looked more ready than Daicos before he got sick, and he wasn't sick for very long. Just unfortunate he missed the JLT

My main point is that we shouldn't be rushing any of them just because one Bigfooty poster has already thrown the towel in

 

[jackcass]

Out: Varcoe, (Susp.)
In: Aish

Elliot is almost automatic but will need a run in the 2's, half a game in over a year just isn't enough match conditioning IMHO.

Yep, this.

Varcoe's suspension hurts because we rely on his pace. It'll either be Broomhead or Aish that replace him.

I'll watch with interest the squad named tomorrow night as beyond Aish, Broomhead, and Dunn, I'm not sure who'll be the other player included in the 25. From the limited VFL praccy match reports posted and excusing the Kirby hysteria, Shaz, Oxley or McCarthy seem to have the front running.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I just really really want Blair gone.

But given the weather, we need to go shorter so Cox should probably go too. Daicos needs to play. He's too clean and quick to not be perfect for Thursday's conditions.

 

[jackcass]

I was surprised they went with Shade over Dunn last week, especially after the talk about Dunn being a good leader down back. Now that Shade is in the side I doubt they will drop him after just one game. I agree that Thursday night is a season shaping game, the first real crunch moment of the year. We have to limit Martin somehow.

Agree Schade deserves more than 1 game which means that the only way Dunn gets an opportunity is if they play him forward, or opt to move Reid forward, and drop Cox.

 

[jackcass]

What's the height difference between Dunn and Goldsack? Given Goldy doesn't contribute that much around the ground (low disposal count) maybe there's not a lot of difference...

And playing all three frees up Dunn or Reid to go forward..

Sack is actually taller but he has genuine pace and the capacity to play on a smaller player as well.

 

[mattys123]

Yep, this.

Varcoe's suspension hurts because we rely on his pace. It'll either be Broomhead or Aish that replace him.

I'll watch with interest the squad named tomorrow night as beyond Aish, Broomhead, and Dunn, I'm not sure who'll be the other player included in the 25. From the limited VFL praccy match reports posted and excusing the Kirby hysteria, Shaz, Oxley or McCarthy seem to have the front running.

I'd name Kirby in the 25, as one of the emergencies. Yes he isn't ready to play seniors yet, but it would be a nice reward for his showing last weekend in the VFL.

Broomhead and Dunn can be the other emergencies and easily cover any possible late outs.

Aish in for Varcoe still the only change tomorrow night for me though.

 

[TradeDraft]

How did Broomy go in the VFL? I'm only putting him in because he was named emergency so I assume he is in form..

Now with Varcoe + Elliott out (absolute bummer) i would go:
In: Aish, Broomy, Dunn
Out: Varcoe, Blair, Cox

Broomhead did NOT play in the VFL

 

[TradeDraft]

Does David King know we hit the lead after "those goals" that he just highlighted??

He has got a hard on for Buckley big time.

He even said the Tigers have totally changed their game style for the better.

Geez I hope we spank the Tigers on Thursday!

I think Kingy is out for Buck's Job

 

[CFC2010]

I think Kingy is out for Buck's Job

Not in a million years Dave........but maybe he has put money on it like he did the Rising Star back then !

 

[Unknown Identity]

I'm not giving up hope after a 14 point loss to the reigning premier after giving up a three goal head start.

Daicos will get his chances. Kirby and brown are a way off.

Of making finals?..

My opinion of where we are at as a team has nothing to do with a 14 point loss to the Dogs, it was a valiant effort.. i had us going down by 5-6 goals.

Our minimal chance at making the top 8 is based off:


I would be very surprised if we managed to make the 8 given:

a) Our acquisitions (Wells, Mayne, Dunn, WHE) I do love WHE.
b) Game plan looks exactly the same, teams waltz into open goals at will.
c) Inexperience of our defence (Ramsay, Maynard, Aish, Berg eventually)
d) 21 yo old leading our forward line

I love our club but we need to be realistic with where we are at.

Last season we lost to Melbourne twice, Carlton, St Kilda, Richmond, Port Adelaide by 12 goals at the G.

Melbourne and St Kilda have both gone past us (added better players also), Richmond is probably on par and Port Adelaide may have recaptured what made them such a dangerous team 2 or 3 years ago with an extremely impressive win against Sydney away.

With only North above us that look to drop below 12th, i can't see who we displace to make the top 8.

So with that being said, Daicos should have games pumped into him starting this week, as well as Kirby and Brown when ready, hopefully McLarty later in the season also, and i'd pick Scharenberg too.

 

[doodles98]

Sorry Sco but you're wrong on the King love in...........we got burnt because we played a team that punishes you on the rebound if you butcher the ball (like we did). We could have the Flash in our team and he wouldn't be able to get back in "formation" after a teammates errant kick forward.

I know you haven't seen the game but the extra man on the wing for the Dogs helped them punish us easier also.

By the way I don't think Schade did much wrong Friday night.........Goldsack on the other hand........

what did Goldsack do wrong? apart from not getting much of the ball like Schade? serious question.. I wasn;t there live.. was he out of position?

 

[CFC2010]

what did Goldsack do wrong? apart from not getting much of the ball like Schade? serious question.. I wasn;t there live.. was he out of position?

He did nothing and that is my point......he was one of the three defenders Pendles chastised in the last quarter when he had to run 100 metres to try and spoil Stringer (by the way the other two were Reid & Howe)

He isn't the future it might be harsh but I would play Shazza from now on for the betterment of our team.

 

[The Plowking]

He did nothing and that is my point......he was one of the three defenders Pendles chastised in the last quarter when he had to run 100 metres to try and spoil Stringer (by the way the other two were Reid & Howe)

He isn't the future it might be harsh but I would play Shazza from now on for the betterment of our team.

Same reason Aish and WHE must play too.

 

[doodles98]

He did nothing and that is my point......he was one of the three defenders Pendles chastised in the last quarter when he had to run 100 metres to try and spoil Stringer (by the way the other two were Reid & Howe)

He isn't the future it might be harsh but I would play Shazza from now on for the betterment of our team.

He was steady in that defense and defensively sound it seemed to me. Kicked a great goal too. What he did do; I thought he did well. I still value his experience and hardness and utility factor. I understand he is limited and not the future (I think this should be his last year), but for the moment he is probably the best option we have if winning is the priority. If we put Shaz in his place then our defensive unit just becomes more ridiculously inexperienced.
In my opinion, you can only carry so much inexperience in a backline group especially. We can't play a back 6 with all of Shaz, Ramsay, Maynard and Schade if we want to win enough games to make finals this year. We're gonna need to play one of either Goldsack or Dunn down there.

 

[Quicky]

Edit to my previous post because I'd like to add a further change.

Out: Schade
In: Dunn

For the past few days I've been pondering how exactly we improve our defense using what we already have on the list without sacrificing offensively.

The main solution that I keep coming back too is that we don't have a general barking instruction as we once had Maxwell and Heater ( ). Until the end of 2017 when we can maybe go out and get someone like Spurr or Howe comes on further as a leader the best I have is Dunn.

We aren't going to sacrifice the poor defenders (Maynard and Smith) so that's the best solution I have. Despite the attempts of some to hose down the pressure on the coach that is the make or break for him in 2017 he needs finals and going up to Sydney at 0-2 spells danger.

As it stands I have us with a bottom 4 defense and top 6 offense so if we shave 2-3 goals off defensively it's the difference between a top 8 and bottom 6-8 finish.

You're very positive about our offense. If we're talking forwards I don't think it is very strong at all. Terribly inexperienced key positions. Some good smalls in Fasolo and Elliott but tryers outside of that group. I just don't see it. Do you think a dominant midfield bridges the gap?

 

[TradeDraft]

So I guess there still a Chance that Elliot will play

 

[CFC2010]

He was steady in that defense and defensively sound it seemed to me. Kicked a great goal too. What he did do; I thought he did well. I still value his experience and hardness and utility factor. I understand he is limited and not the future (I think this should be his last year), but for the moment he is probably the best option we have if winning is the priority. If we put Shaz in his place then our defensive unit just becomes more ridiculously inexperienced.
In my opinion, you can only carry so much inexperience in a backline group especially. We can't play a back 6 with all of Shaz, Ramsay, Maynard and Schade if we want to win enough games to make finals this year. We're gonna need to play one of either Goldsack or Dunn down there.

We will agree to disagree on this one Doodles!

He has a Premiership time to sail into the sunset for me.

 

[Scodog10]

You're very positive about our offense. If we're talking forwards I don't think it is very strong at all. Terribly inexperienced key positions. Some good smalls in Fasolo and Elliott but tryers outside of that group. I just don't see it. Do you think a dominant midfield bridges the gap?

IMO, on the back of a smallish sample size what Sando has provided as the ball movement coach is very positive. We don't have the mix spot on currently and we were execution away from beating the reigning premiers despite leaking like a sieve defensively, but you replace Cox/ White with Elliott and Blair/ Mayne with Sidebottom and I think we have a locked and loaded 90+ ppg forward mix.

I'm firmly of the belief that removing Cox will allow Moore to own the F50 more, Elliott will no doubt win more of the ball and Sidebottom will give us a lot more than the 12-15 possessions Blair/ Mayne put up. Now is the time that the loss of JDG, Wells, Wills and Greenwood (to a lesser extent) bites hardest because it would allow Sidebottom to play the Greene role without sacrificing anything through the middle.

That said the club dropped the ball at selection last week by replacing Aish with a pressure fwd. That needed to be a ball winning utility such as Broomhead or Daicos.