Big Fish ?...Hawthorn trade news and targets thread(not for trade hypotheticals)

[wizzard400]

Midfielders grow on trees. Elite key defenders do not.

I don't know if you've watched the last 6-odd weeks but Sicily's stats suggest he could be an elite half-back.

 

[PhatHQ]

I don't know if you've watched the last 6-odd weeks but Sicily's stats suggest he could be an elite half-back.

Yeah... but..but he can kick a goal

 

[HairyO]

Frawley and Brand with Stratton, Sicily, Dimma and Birch is a very handy back 6. If we get Lever, Frawley or Stratton probably drop out the best 22.

No chance Frawley or Stratton drop out. For anyone. Not for 2 or 3 more years.

Sicily could play defensive wing. Gunston could go back to half forward.

But this assumes Clarko doesnt redesign the team all over again.

We know he is already thinking about 2018.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I don't know if you've watched the last 6-odd weeks but Sicily's stats suggest he could be an elite half-back.

What's that got to do with what I said though?

Sicily is going to excell as a third tall defender, and when a key defender like Lever is available you get it done.

 

[wizzard400]

What's that got to do with what I said though?

Sicily is going to excell as a third tall defender, and when a key defender like Lever is available you get it done.

At what cost though?

I see it as a best player available vs. a player in area of need situation in terms of recruitment. Do we really need another defender when our backline seems to be functioning well as is - if it's not broken why fix it?

 

[Leather Poisoning]

At what cost though?

I see it as a best player available vs. a player in area of need situation in terms of recruitment. Do we really need another defender when our backline seems to be functioning well as is - if it's not broken why fix it?

I feel a bit like this this.

Frawley and Brand as the keys, Sicily, Burton, Stratton floating around and Hardwick/Duryea as the small looks pretty solid to me.

I want that midfield fixed.

 

[Billyc]

I feel a bit like this this.

Frawley and Brand as the keys, Sicily, Burton, Stratton floating around and Hardwick/Duryea as the small looks pretty solid to me.

I want that midfield fixed.

Completely agree that midfield is the number one priority (a key forward would be handy too).

That said, what you need is 5-6 elite players on the list. At the moment this is where our list falls short. We have a lot of good players and a lot of role players but we have lost many champions over the last couple years.

Lever is an elite player. If Lever is the only one available and he wants to join us, we do the deal. If that means a 28 year old Frawley or Stratton become surplus to our needs, trade them out. Lever is the type who build a defence around. If he and Sicily played together, no side will succeed bombing the ball in against us for a decade.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Completely agree.

Although - as I type this I think if Lever came across we could use Burton elsewhere - perhaps in that midfield I want fixed.

 

[wahawk]

I feel a bit like this this.

Frawley and Brand as the keys, Sicily, Burton, Stratton floating around and Hardwick/Duryea as the small looks pretty solid to me.

I want that midfield fixed.

& you can fix the midfield by adding Lever to the backline & sending Burton into the midfield

 

[wahawk]

& I could scroll to the bottom of the page & see that you have realized this

 

[Steven Tyler]

If we are chasing Lever, I hope he gets his hamstrings fixed

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

At what cost though?

I see it as a best player available vs. a player in area of need situation in terms of recruitment. Do we really need another defender when our backline seems to be functioning well as is - if it's not broken why fix it?

Stratton and Frawley are very slim chances of being on our list when we challenge for our next flag.
It's not broken now, but we don't want Burton wasting his skill set on a back flank, and we aren't going to have Hodge, Burgoyne or Birchall on the list then either.

Getting Lever means that when we hit Clarkson's desired window of opportunity(2021) we have a 25yr old fullback who can take us to multiple finals series, rather than a 31yr old about to retire.

Midfielders will look after themselves, via trade, draft or FA(and we already have Lovell and Burton just waiting to get in there).

 

[sven_inc]

Am i the only one who feels our biggest area of need is up forward?

With Lovell, JOR and JOM all hopefully available soon and Gunston, Burton and Sicily showing their wares down back, I think we need a KPF.

Realistically we may not as Burton, Sicily and Gunston may be just a good up front together over the next few years.

It's hard to know where we need to bolster if they keep playing everyone all over the ground.

Maybe we just need the best available and shuffle accordingly?

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[Strapping Young Lad]

Am i the only one who feels our biggest area of need is up forward?

With Lovell, JOR and JOM all hopefully available soon and Gunston, Burton and Sicily showing their wares down back, I think we need a KPF.

Realistically we may not as Burton, Sicily and Gunston may be just a good up front together over the next few years.

It's hard to know where we need to bolster if they keep playing everyone all over the ground.

Maybe we just need the best available and shuffle accordingly?

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A forward will be targeted next year IMO.

 

[threesixpio]

A forward will be targeted next year IMO.

anyone in mind......

 

[Steven Tyler]

anyone in mind......

Let me guess......





Tom Lynch!

 

[lickmerocks]

A forward will be targeted next year IMO.

So what does that mean for Obrien and Schoey?

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

What's that got to do with what I said though?

Sicily is going to excell as a third tall defender, and when a key defender like Lever is available you get it done.

He's not a third for mine, Burto is... he's more a repalcement for Birch...

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

So what does that mean for Obrien and Schoey?

Only three of Schoey, McEvoy, TO and Cegs can play in the same team for mine...

 

[Hawk Dork]

So what does that mean for Obrien and Schoey?

They are mobile enough to be tall flankers

 

[Jake_09]

I've heard that although we have interest in Lever it's actually McGovern that we have shown the most interest in but he is expected to head west if he leaves SA

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

He's not a third for mine, Burto is... he's more a repalcement for Birch...

Birchall is a runner flanker, who can't get his arms above his head.
Sicily is a floating 3rd tall, who takes overhead contested marks.

Burton is a utility, who is slated to be a mid.

 

[Gralin]

Birchall is a runner flanker, who can't get his arms above his head.
Sicily is a floating 3rd tall, who takes overhead contested marks.

Burton is a utility, who is slated to be a mid.

Hardwick is a mirror Goo
Glass is a Ranga
Nash is not

what game are we playing?

 

[Howe Amazing]

A forward line of Roughy, Gunners, Cyril, Breust, Shoey and Silk is pretty handy

 

[burger09]

Sis is a head case
Birchall is a tauntaun
Howe is a crazy eyed baby man