Play Nice Dustin Martin to North | 31/8: DM signed at RFC for 1.3m/7yrs

[Snake_Baker]

It doesn't make sense unless there has been a big fish hauled onto the boat.

TPA, nothing starts and finishes with Kelly & Martin.

The 3 million bucks isn't going anywhere and soon enough we will be landing Marlins

 

[giantroo]

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

TPA, nothing starts and finishes with Kelly & Martin.

The 3 million bucks isn't going anywhere and soon enough we will be landing Marlins

If we don't land them, I would've liked to see a clean out as there must be something wrong perception wise that stops players wanting to come here.

 

[Firestarter]

Seeing that face makes me want to avoid the actual content...

 

[kaboom kid]

That would make for one very awkward speech.

I'd love to see him make his announcement at the end of his Brownlow speech......Cue pandemonium. Wayne Carey bursts through the doors at the back with a massive ghetto blaster on his shoulder playing 'join in the chorus'. Brad vaults on to the stage and stuffs a massive wad of bills in Dusty's lapel pocket, then asks Bruce to take a photo on his phone of him and Dusty while a miniature cannon from the North table fires a load of blue and white confetti over the dais. I'm sure Joycey could write in a little clause to this effect? Make it happen management team.......

 

[Flawed Genius]

Just another night in the media:

 

[GarnerSmash]

You need to see it from a supporter's perspective.

I was only young in 2001 when we last won a final. Not a flag but a final. Fitzroy have won more finals than us since 1980.

The AFL will make so much money this finals series as Richmond are a massive drawer of crowds.

After so many years of failure we are a genuine flag chance. It has been achieved through smart recruiting, long term thinking and strong administration. In the mid 2000s RFC was nearly broke we have come so far without AFL help.

Meanwhile North recruit ageing stars, are heavily subsidised by the big clubs like RFC are the lowest drawing Victorian club and need to


Don't shoot the messenger. If you believe player managers then I have a car to sell you. Go ask Tina Arena. Ralph Carr is as believable as his hair

Subsidised?


Mate, just say thanks to North, Saints and Dogs for playing in shit timeslots at Etihad for the last 17 years under a bullshit deal the AFL signed off on for buying the stadium for the AFL, which includes your tin rattling club.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Just another night in the media:

He's certifiable.

 

[Firestarter]

He's certifiable.

Love that word. Makes me want to rewatch Chicken Run.

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

Sorry, yes, we had being omnipresent on the agenda at the last Chaddy food court meeting but then Toes choked on his prawn roll and we had to drop him at the hospital.

Next meeting I suggest Omnipotent should be on the agenda

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I made the mistake of waiting last year. Trackies and shorts always sell the quickiest. If it's any solace i got three pairs. One i gave out as a present. One is still in the auspost satchel with the tag on. If you're a size M send me a PM and i can send them to you for whatever Canterbury is selling them for.

All good mate, probably hitting a large now but I got a different pair. Good of you though

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Next meeting I suggest Omnipotent should be on the agenda

That was meeting one.

Threadbanned for insolence.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I'd love to see him make his announcement at the end of his Brownlow speech......Cue pandemonium. Wayne Carey bursts through the doors at the back with a massive ghetto blaster on his shoulder playing 'join in the chorus'. Brad vaults on to the stage and stuffs a massive wad of bills in Dusty's lapel pocket, then asks Bruce to take a photo on his phone of him and Dusty while a miniature cannon from the North table fires a load of blue and white confetti over the dais. I'm sure Joycey could write in a little clause to this effect? Make it happen management team.......

............& the Arden Street Elephant is saddled and waiting in the Crown car park to deliver Dusty to the Tender Touch for an all expenses paid "Zondor Special"

 

[Dirty_11]

Dustin Martin arrives in New Zealand to discuss future plans with father Shane
Herald Sun

DUSTIN Martin has arrived in Auckland for contract talks with his father Shane and his manager Ralph Carr.

Yesterday the Sunday Herald Sun confirmed Martin would depart Melbourne after Richmond’s game against St Kilda to talk over his options.



The pressure is on Richmond to increase its offer with Martin understood to be choosing between a $1.5m deal at North Melbourne or $1.1 million a year at Tigers.

Both deals are over seven years so Martin would have to give up $2.8 million to stay with the Tigers.

Dustin Martin is driven from the airport in Auckland. Picture:

Dustin Martin arrives at Auckland Airport with his manager today

It’s possible a decision could be announced this week, which would likely keep him at Richmond.

Throughout the season, Richmond has allowed Martin the time to visit his father who was deported for his links to the Rebels motorcycle gang.

He was flown to New Zealand by the Government in April, 2016, after Immigration Minister Peter Dutton said he failed to meet the minimum character requirements to remain in Australia.

Any delay on a decision until after the finals likely means Martin will be wearing blue and white stripes next year.

But despite the threat of Martin leaving, a club insider who asked not to be named said he was confident Martin would stay.

Dustin Martin steps off the plane to a media throng.

“The bigger picture will come into play and the dollars and cents of the two contracts won’t matter,” the insider said.

“If he’s a Brownlow Medallist at Richmond he’ll make a quarter of that up this year — 20 years into the future that’s going to be worth so much more.”

Dustin’s father Shane has been forced to watch all his son’s games on TV after he was deported because of his alleged links to the Rebels motorcycle club.

Richmond legend Francis Bourke said that Martin had every right to make the best choice possible for himself.

Martin kept his headphones in as he walked through the airport.

He said that Richmond’s best chance of keeping Martin was to play good football.

“As far as I’m concerned, I hope he stays. You would argue that your instincts would be sated by being in a successful organisation,” he said.

Bourke who was in Richmond’s 1967 premiership, which was the first flag since World War Two, said this crop of Tigers were on the verge of something special.

“They’ve got a chance to put themselves in a unique position. That’s what football is all about,” he said.

Maybe a successful organisation back in your day Francis, not in this century.

 

[rickety]

Those better posters are? Names.

My favourite poster :-D

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

That was meeting one.

Threadbanned for insolence.

Any chance the guru Jindrrk could place Brad Scott at the airport?

 

[Dirty_11]

I don't understand why it would have any effect on our club image if he stayed. They drafted him and nurtured him, he's about to win a Brownlow in the first season they've really clicked on field in a long time. The Richmond offer to him is still one of the biggest ever.

Only way we cop it image wise is if he goes somewhere else for the same coin we've offered.

That's the logical way of looking at it, this is not the narrative that will be played out though. We all know that.

 

[Bazzar]

My favourite poster :-D

Awesome graphics.

 

[Horizons_00]

His signature may not be imminent.

Talking footy just reporting that Gold Coast are looking to make Scott an offer.

Then it will be up to Brad

 

[Tectonic]

I'd love to see him make his announcement at the end of his Brownlow speech......Cue pandemonium. Wayne Carey bursts through the doors at the back with a massive ghetto blaster on his shoulder playing 'join in the chorus'. Brad vaults on to the stage and stuffs a massive wad of bills in Dusty's lapel pocket, then asks Bruce to take a photo on his phone of him and Dusty while a miniature cannon from the North table fires a load of blue and white confetti over the dais. I'm sure Joycey could write in a little clause to this effect? Make it happen management team.......

Whip out the old t-shirt cannon and shoot out the various works of jindrrk overthe crowd and you have yourself a deal

 

[shniko11]

You know I've been thinking about all the pressure Richmond and the media are putting on him to stay might work in Richmonds favour But now I'm not so sure, it might actually piss him off more and make him say **** it 2.8m extra I'm done I'm set up for life see ya later.

 

[DR Tipple]

............& the Arden Street Elephant is saddled and waiting in the Crown car park to deliver Dusty to the Tender Touch for an all expenses paid "Zondor Special"

is that the one that involves 2 short people a stuffed Labrador 5lt of chilled banana custard and a 9 iron

 

[Dirty_11]

I wanted to do some research into th attitudes of media people regarding previous big FA moves and compare them to this one.

Dangerfield had this fawning article by Robbo where they listed his family, the environment, his family, the history of the area, his family, the future, the area, then there's a quote about how the family (and by extension Robbo, who has now written an article so long and meandering that surely he is a distant uncle by association) hated that fans on "internet forums" were calling Dangerfield a traitor. There is one mention of money and it's Dangerfield saying "I'm getting paid incredibly well anyway", but by and large it's Dangerfield being lauded for leaving his original club and going to another one for what you would assume is more money.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...b68520582?sv=84af0a18bb0335f4ceb8bf21ec52740a

Then there's this one: https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/cats-purr-as-afl-trade-trendsetters-ng-ya-158765

The first line is "Geelong is an amazing footy club". Throughout the article there are mentions of Geelong "making history" among other things:



This weird article from Jake Niall about how Harvard (?!) played a role in a super non-complicated, amicable player exchange scenario:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/how-harvard-helped-the-dangerfield-deal-20151031-gkno93.html



More generally the mood surrounding the Dangerfield deal was not one of "he's a dog for leaving", it was more "oh well, let him go", and then congratulating Geelong for their directness and their ability to make an offer and get a player signed, sealed and delivered. The language is really positive, there's not much to-ing and fro-ing about whether or not Geelong are being obstructive or are desperate for trying to lure Dangerfield, etc etc.

Compare all that to the North offers to Dusty, which so far has seen the following:

- The absolute worst argument of all time, which is that he will have to pay more tax on a larger offer from North, which would be a terrific argument if it weren't for the fact that his manager isn't a football manager, and is more a celebrity handler, which means he's probably across every conceivable dodgy tax arrangement in the book
- Football media openly barracking against the idea of Martin coming to North, with luminaries like Caro penning tear-smattered op-eds asking why Dusty would leave (hint - it's the $2.8m he's stacking up)
- Talking Footy, Slurping Footy, Footy ****heads, Footy ******s and We Love Footy Television dedicating countless discussion topics to why Dusty should stay, why he should reject the money, why he should forfeit nearly $3m when he could accept the contract and set himself up for life
- The entire media stating that Martin would want to stay at Richmond and not go to North because the club has no good young players despite the fact that we debuted 13 of them this season, and our 24 year old full forward kicked 63 goals and finished 3rd in the Coleman despite having a midfield that collectively kicks like a drunk mule
- The Richmond FC stating they were giving Martin all the time and space in the world to make his decision, that they wouldn't be pressuring him and would give him leave to go to NZ and speak to his father, doing all the right things and generally taking a back seat to wait for Martin to make his decision, and then Channel 7 flying obssessed celebrity stalker and button-faced cretin Stevo to a foreign country to shout questions at a podcast-listening Martin to glean precisely no new information
- North being called irresponsible for spending "so much money" on one player, despite Franklin commanding a 9y/10m deal, Ablett getting more than we've offered Martin in the first year of his deal at the GC, and Dangerfield leaving Adelaide to come to Geelong on huge coin and all three being lauded for it, plus the weird "it'll screw up North's ability to pay all their other players", which is strange because two points ago we didn't have any good young players, so you'd think we'd be sweet for paying them
- Further to the "it'll throw out the salary cap at North", we actually had to request permission from the AFL to pay less than the salary cap floor. We've made stupid offers to Hannebery, Heeney, Kelly, Martin, Hartlett, and anyone else you care to name because we have to pay that money to someone. Someone is getting that money whether it's Martin or Kelly or a player to be named later. We have the money to spend because believe it or not, as I have posted in the past, our list management team isn't sitting around drinking beer bongs and going off a napkin with player spend totals written on it. We use Excel spreadsheets now, and they're formatted beautifully
- The media acting incredulous when hearing that North's leadership group had met with Martin, and Hardwick being asked if it's a bad thing that players are meeting with other clubs throughout the season, only to earn some respect by stating "we've done it before" and nobody in the media mentioning it again
- RIchmond openly going to the AFL and attempting to get permission to rort the salary cap to keep Martin because they're thoroughly aware they can't match our offer, and everybody just being like "well yeah that's cool"

I genuinely feel sorry for Martin. I have no doubt the guy is split between wanting to remain loyal to the Tigers who again I have no doubt have done massive things for him and his life and his family, accepting a smaller deal at Richmond and maybe proving the view some people have of him wrong, and wanting to take the money and set himself up for life. Realistically he's probably embarrassed that he even has to make this decision and largely just wants to play footy and kick the aggot around. We've made his choice incredibly difficult by offering so much money that he actually has to take pause and go and get counsel from his father.

I would love nothing more than for the question to be answered quickly so that either way, the bloke can just get back to enjoying his life, because I'd wager it's not all sunshine and roses in the Martin camp at the moment.

I hope Stevo falls into Milford Sound and is washed into the Tasman.

Top shelf post FG.

 

[Horizons_00]

All I see is harassment

Why travel all the way to NZ and stalk him

**** me, leave him alone lol

 

[Cool Kangas]

Wow, this whole situation is quite intriguing. What's your opinion though fellow supporters, is North being silly offering him so much?? Will we be right to make sure we secure the likes of Browny etc. for our future?

Like $1.5mill. Jeez. That's a lot. Do you think he actually likes the idea of coming to North as a club???

I still don't see him leaving though.