Strategy Trade and List Management thread 4 (Be sure to huddle around your transitor radio at 11 am Edition)

[Sentinel]

His family are country - Maryborough

Are you talking Kelly or Crameri?

 

[_Mike_]

Sounds like a good deal

Stringer + Cloke + our first round pick in exchange for

Ben Brown + North's first and second round picks in the NAB draft

That sounds like more of a sweet deal.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

His junior football club was the East Brighton Vampires which
is a fair commute from Maryborough, now that is committed
parents.

Are we talking about Stringer or Kelly? I've lost track of the multiple conversations

Are you talking Kelly or Crameri?

Or Crameri???

Edit: Crammers is from Maryborough, Stringer from Bendigo (although was in Maryborough earlier iirc) and Kelly...? So who's bought the house, Kelly?

 

[Metal]

Many here believed that 2017 was an anomaly and it'd be back to business as usual in 2018.

But I believe a seismic shift in playing group / off field personnel is necessary if we are to really become a significant force again.

It's like we need a new spirit, a new way, a different togetherness after what we achieved in 2016.

We do not want the group to turn up in 2018 with the same inability to win the big moments and same fatiguing and lack of intensity for the full 4 quarters.

I believe a circuit breaker is needed. Sometimes big decisions have to be made. And with that comes risks.

Moving on a champion is one way. Another is for the player to have a complete change in the way they go about football.

None of us want to see Stringer blossom and flower at another club, but neither do we want him to continue his current output any longer.

Holding onto the idea that said champion player with outstanding potential will come good for us is fine in theory but what if he doesn't?

And now is the time to do the deal. Because we may well end up with very much less if he walks in 12 months.

To get an A grader to the club you normally have to give up an A grader (unless uncontracted)

IF there is a potential champion player not playing to his ability and not taking seriously enough the need to get the absolute best out of himself through sheer hard work and professional development, then I think the club would be negligent in not considering options on how to improve our list.

I desperately hope Stringer stays and takes up the challenge to drive the group to new and higher levels. It's someone like him who can be a leader and who can mould the younger players to be better people and players.

He can be a truly great influence if he chooses to be.

 

[Groin guru]

Stringer + Cloke + our first round pick in exchange for

Ben Brown + North's first and second round picks in the NAB draft

That sounds like more of a sweet deal.

Sorry. You had your chance but wasted it on Matt Fuller.

You'd need to swap Bont for Cloke to get that deal ticked off.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

Sorry. You had your chance but wasted it on Matt Fuller.

You'd need to swap Bont for Cloke to get that deal ticked off.

well then bad luck. no trade

 

[MJ_Dogs]

Sorry. You had your chance but wasted it on Matt Fuller.

You'd need to swap Bont for Cloke to get that deal ticked off.

What about:

Pick 9, Stringer and Honeychurch for Pick 4, 2018 first and Brown?

 

[Mutt]

Most Bulldogs supporters here on BigFooty think that Norfies are complete flogs. Nothing in this thread so far to change that way of thinking. Why do they bother?

 

[Mofra]

Are you talking Kelly or Crameri?

Stringer (and Crameri)

 

[SnowRoo]

What about:

Pick 9, Stringer and Honeychurch for Pick 4, 2018 first and Brown?

TBH from a North viewpoint Stringer and 9 doesn't get Brown.

 

[Groin guru]

What about:

Pick 9, Stringer and Honeychurch for Pick 4, 2018 first and Brown?

Counter.

North: Bont, Stringer, Pick 9

Bulldogs: Pick 4, 21, Goldstein, Tarrant, Wood

 

[boydsno1]

Can we **** these norfys off please.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Why the **** are people engaging this bullshit?

 

[grassman75]

The club has cocked this up.. geelong will bend us over and also become infinitely STRINGER

EFA

 

[Clay]

Please don't feed the trolls guys

 

[mambavino]

Counter.

North: Bont, Stringer, Pick 9

Bulldogs: Pick 4, 21, Goldstein, Tarrant, Wood

 

[Big_minnow]

Am i the only one who enjoys the hyperbolic reactions, It's very entertaining and really its human natute to speculate, as long as people aren't being abusive or personal i dont see a problem with it.
Personally don't want stringer to go, but would make for an exciting trade period and i wont be throwing a tantrun if we do, that said my biggest concern is he is very popular with young suppprters.

 

[Groin guru]

Please don't feed the trolls guys

Has a differing opinion = troll.

Just here to have a chat with some like minded posters.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

Look at the crows
Lost tippet. Davis. Gunston. Danger
And competing for flags for the last 3 yrs

Lose stinger. No big deal. Replace him and move on

 

[TommyD13]

Since the 2010 Draft when Gold Coast entered into the competition, there has obviously been 70 top ten picks. Of those 70 picks here is the breakdown of the clubs who had those selections:
Top 10 Selections since 2010 Draft
Adelaide-
Brisbane- 6
Carlton- 3
Collingwood- 4
Essendon- 5
Fremantle- 1
Geelong- 1
Gold Coast- 13
GWS- 19
Hawthorn-
Melbourne- 6
North Melbourne- 1
Port Adelaide- 2
Richmond- 2
Saint Kilda- 2
Sydney- 1
West Coast- 1
Western Bulldogs- 3
After Players have Changed Clubs or Left Competition (Sumner, Gorringe)- 68 players now
Adelaide-
Brisbane- 3
Carlton- 6
Collingwood- 5
Essendon- 5
Fremantle- 2
Geelong- 1
Gold Coast- 9
GWS- 10
Hawthorn- 1
Melbourne- 6
North Melbourne- 2
Port Adelaide- 4
Richmond- 4
Saint Kilda- 4
Sydney- 1
West Coast- 1
Western Bulldogs- 4
Who are these players?
Adelaide-
Brisbane- Hugh McCluggage, Josh Schache, Sam Mayes
Carlton- Sam Petrevski-Seton, Jacob Weitering, Harry McKay, Caleb Marchbank, Jarrod Pickett, Lachie Plowman
Collingwood- Darcy Moore, Jordan De Goey, Matthew Scharenberg, James Aish, Will Hoskin-Elliott
Essendon- Andrew McGrath, Darcy Parish, Aaron Francis, Joe Daniher, Dyson Heppell
Fremantle- Griffin Logue, Harley Bennell
Geelong- Nakia Cockatoo
Gold Coast- Ben Ainsworth, Jack Scrimshaw, Will Brodie, Jack Bowes, Callum Ah Chee, Peter Wright, Kade Kolodjashnij, David Swallow, Sam Day
GWS- Jacob Hopper, Tim Taranto, Will Setterfield, Josh Kelly, Lachie Whitfield, Jonathon Patton, Stephen Coniglio, Matt Buntine, Nick Haynes, Adam Tomlinson
Hawthorn- Jonathan O'Rourke
Melbourne- Clayton Oliver, Sam Weideman, Christian Petracca, Angus Brayshaw, Christian Salem, Dom Tyson
North Melbourne- Paul Ahern, Luke McDonald
Port Adelaide- Jimmy Toumpas, Ollie Wines, Chad Wingard, Jared Polec
Richmond- Nick Vlastuin, Reece Conca, Josh Caddy, Dion Prestia
Saint Kilda- Paddy McCartin, Jack Billings, Nathan Freeman, Billy Longer
Sydney- Callum Mills
West Coast- Andrew Gaff
Western Bulldogs- Jake Stringer, Jack Macrae, Marcus Bontempelli, Tom Boyd

 

[BRWB]

Has a differing opinion = troll.

Just here to have a chat with some like minded posters.

Maybe stick to your own vege patch m8. After the first couple of posts it's become apparent that you are actually quite a limited, repetitive and boring poster.

 

[Dav1d]

Look at the crows
Lost tippet. Davis. Gunston. Danger
And competing for flags for the last 3 yrs

Lose stinger. No big deal. Replace him and move on

You've certainly changed your tune?

 

[Dry Rot]

Since the 2010 Draft when Gold Coast entered into the competition, there has obviously been 70 top ten picks. Of those 70 picks here is the breakdown of the clubs who had those selections:
Top 10 Selections since 2010 Draft
Adelaide-
Brisbane- 6
Carlton- 3
Collingwood- 4
Essendon- 5
Fremantle- 1
Geelong- 1
Gold Coast- 13
GWS- 19
Hawthorn-
Melbourne- 6
North Melbourne- 1
Port Adelaide- 2
Richmond- 2
Saint Kilda- 2
Sydney- 1
West Coast- 1
Western Bulldogs- 3
After Players have Changed Clubs or Left Competition (Sumner, Gorringe)- 68 players now
Adelaide-
Brisbane- 3
Carlton- 6
Collingwood- 5
Essendon- 5
Fremantle- 2
Geelong- 1
Gold Coast- 9
GWS- 10
Hawthorn- 1
Melbourne- 6
North Melbourne- 2
Port Adelaide- 4
Richmond- 4
Saint Kilda- 4
Sydney- 1
West Coast- 1
Western Bulldogs- 4
Who are these players?
Adelaide-
Brisbane- Hugh McCluggage, Josh Schache, Sam Mayes
Carlton- Sam Petrevski-Seton, Jacob Weitering, Harry McKay, Caleb Marchbank, Jarrod Pickett, Lachie Plowman
Collingwood- Darcy Moore, Jordan De Goey, Matthew Scharenberg, James Aish, Will Hoskin-Elliott
Essendon- Andrew McGrath, Darcy Parish, Aaron Francis, Joe Daniher, Dyson Heppell
Fremantle- Griffin Logue, Harley Bennell
Geelong- Nakia Cockatoo
Gold Coast- Ben Ainsworth, Jack Scrimshaw, Will Brodie, Jack Bowes, Callum Ah Chee, Peter Wright, Kade Kolodjashnij, David Swallow, Sam Day
GWS- Jacob Hopper, Tim Taranto, Will Setterfield, Josh Kelly, Lachie Whitfield, Jonathon Patton, Stephen Coniglio, Matt Buntine, Nick Haynes, Adam Tomlinson
Hawthorn- Jonathan O'Rourke
Melbourne- Clayton Oliver, Sam Weideman, Christian Petracca, Angus Brayshaw, Christian Salem, Dom Tyson
North Melbourne- Paul Ahern, Luke McDonald
Port Adelaide- Jimmy Toumpas, Ollie Wines, Chad Wingard, Jared Polec
Richmond- Nick Vlastuin, Reece Conca, Josh Caddy, Dion Prestia
Saint Kilda- Paddy McCartin, Jack Billings, Nathan Freeman, Billy Longer
Sydney- Callum Mills
West Coast- Andrew Gaff
Western Bulldogs- Jake Stringer, Jack Macrae, Marcus Bontempelli, Tom Boyd

Wasn't Rohan from the swans a top 10 pick?

 

[SCRAY72]

Look at the crows
Lost tippet. Davis. Gunston. Danger
And competing for flags for the last 3 yrs

Lose stinger. No big deal. Replace him and move on

You are right. Crows didn't rest on their laurels. They have replaced these guys with Betts Lynch Jenkins Jacobs and have drafted in Crouch x 2, Greenwood, Talia, Lever etc.

 

[Yojimbo]

Are we talking about Stringer or Kelly? I've lost track of the multiple conversations

Kelly is from the East Brighton Vampires junior football club
and he was at an auction in the local area recently.