Will the R22 Bye Survive a Geelong-GWS Double?

[Lavender Bushranger]

So if Geelong get hold of Adelaide, and GWS stitch up the Tigers - will the AFL roll over on the R22 bye?

Will it be sufficient evidence that the 'rest' the top teams earn for their efforts during the season, is in fact a poison chalice?



Discuss...

 

[jwint43]

Well, it depends on whether the AFL think that 4/4 home prelim final losses will count as sufficient evidence that a trend has developed. I think its far too early irrespective of whether GWS and Geelong both win to say conclusively that the bye has a truly detrimental effect, but given the AFL's reactionary nature they will likely change it if those results do occur. It may lead to both these premierships in the future being marked with asterisks or seen as not as worthy as others due to the change in format being considered to handicap the best sides.

 

[RupieDupie]

So if Geelong get hold of Adelaide, and GWS stitch up the Tigers - will the AFL roll over on the R22 bye?

Will it be sufficient evidence that the 'rest' the top teams earn for their efforts during the season, is in fact a poison chalice?



Discuss...

Justice for both Geelong and GWS for last year but then no justice for the Tigers and Crows.

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

Will an Adelaide Richmond Grandfinal stop the complaints?

 

[LoungeLizard]

Is Adelaide a better team than Geelong?
Is Richmond a better team than GWS?

 

[JPetro83]

Regardless it has to go. what a joke.. the crows have played 1 game in 26 days..

 

[ep2018]

Why not just move the bye to in between round 20 and 21.

 

[Franko Armani]

No it won't. KB won't take his summer holidays from SEN and will bang on about it all day every day until next years bye.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Just because Adelaide let alone Tigers lose on its own doesn't mean it's the byes fault.

You have to be able to identify what the bye actually affects. Is it a poor start? A late finish? Whole game sluggish? Even these things can be explained with other reasoning.

 

[FoochPackage]

Nah mate. Only helps the teams from 5-8. This year perfect example. Whos left again?

 

[HairyO]

Will an Adelaide Richmond Grandfinal stop the complaints?

Nope. It will disappear after this year regardless of what happens. Unless a betting agency pays the AFL millions to host some sort of event in the Bye week.

Because integrity.

 

[00Stinger]

Is there a bye between rounds 22 and 23?

Might explain why we didnt turn up v Collingwood

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[Capt Hindsight]

Top 4 made it to the Preliminary finals.
Adelaide and Richmond have plenty of fitness and medical staff to devise a training program over the week off. Both have home finals against interstate opponents.
If Geelong and GWS get through then Adelaide and Richmond will only have themselves to blame for being poorly prepared.

 

[Power Raid]

So if Geelong get hold of Adelaide, and GWS stitch up the Tigers - will the AFL roll over on the R22 bye?

Will it be sufficient evidence that the 'rest' the top teams earn for their efforts during the season, is in fact a poison chalice?



Discuss...

I have serious concerns regarding the top sides being penalised by only playing 1 game over a four week period.

In my belief the tigers and the crows are the better two sides and should face off against each other in the finals. However I can see the tigers getting picked off by the giants tonight due to this break. I'm still thinking the crows will win despite the long break "penalty".

Perhaps the round 22 break isn't the issue. Perhaps the finals series needs to change and get rid of the earned week off and get rid of double chances.

Wk 1
A - 1v8
B - 2v7
C - 3v6
D - 4v5

Wk 2 A v D, B v C

Wk 3 finals

The AFL lose a week and 2 games which means lost revenue. So although fair, it won't happen.

 

[Power Raid]

Why not just move the bye to in between round 20 and 21.

yep

a 10 bye (staged over three weeks) and round 20 break would alleviate the issue

 

[Fat Nyfe]

I thought 5-8 was the place to be according to Bigfooty throughout the H&A??

Funny no-one is suggesting this anymore after all 5-8 teams have been smashed out of the finals before prelim weekend

 

[brucetiki]

Why not just move the bye to in between round 20 and 21.

Or follow the NFL’s lead and have it between the PF and GF. That should kill off the twilight PF’s too.

 

[HairyO]

I thought 5-8 was the place to be according to Bigfooty throughout the H&A??

Funny no-one is suggesting this anymore after all 5-8 teams have been smashed out of the finals before prelim weekend

5 to 8 or the losers of the top 4 games.

 

[iluvparis]

Regardless it has to go. what a joke.. the crows have played 1 game in 26 days..

Just like the old final 5 hey who most people think was the best system of the lot

No excuses for your boys tonight. Plenty of rest - should be raring to go.....feeling nervous?

 

[Bulldog1954]

I thought 5-8 was the place to be according to Bigfooty throughout the H&A??

Funny no-one is suggesting this anymore after all 5-8 teams have been smashed out of the finals before prelim weekend

The narrative changes so the bye can be blamed for any loss that occurs throughout the finals series.

 

[iluvparis]

Well, it depends on whether the AFL think that 4/4 home prelim final losses will count as sufficient evidence that a trend has developed. I think its far too early irrespective of whether GWS and Geelong both win to say conclusively that the bye has a truly detrimental effect, but given the AFL's reactionary nature they will likely change it if those results do occur. It may lead to both these premierships in the future being marked with asterisks or seen as not as worthy as others due to the change in format being considered to handicap the best sides.

100% this

Tonight's results should have zero impact on the decision but the reactionary AFL loves jumping at shadows.

 

[kaiserchief13]

I hope so - I am supporting Geelong and GWS this weekend and I don't like the bye

 

[master bate]

Well, it depends on whether the AFL think that 4/4 home prelim final losses will count as sufficient evidence that a trend has developed. I think its far too early irrespective of whether GWS and Geelong both win to say conclusively that the bye has a truly detrimental effect, but given the AFL's reactionary nature they will likely change it if those results do occur. It may lead to both these premierships in the future being marked with asterisks or seen as not as worthy as others due to the change in format being considered to handicap the best sides.

I think it depends on if the upsets occur because:
- The side coming in from the semi's played up to their potential because they'd had a break before finals
OR:
- The side hosting the prelim struggled due to too much time off

Last year the Dogs played very well in the Prelim and weren't tired after 2 big finals in 2 weeks because they were fresh heading in to September. The Giants also played well in the Prelim and the game went down to the wire. The Dogs benefited, the Giants weren't prevented from playing well.

The Cats were very flat to start the other Prelim and were beaten around the ball early by the Swans. But the Swans had done that consistently to Geelong in recent history, and did it again down at Kardinia this year. Most people thought they were going to do it again last week before Scott made some big changes to the game plan. The Swans struggled against the Giants then played (reasonably) well in the next 3 finals. The Cats struggled in the Prelim but that's just one team.

Adelaide and Richmond losing by playing poorly will be a knock on the bye, but if it's a case of Geelong and GWS winning by playing well then that should be a support for the bye. The home team seemed to win all the time in the Prelims pre bye.

 

[99cents]

Is Adelaide a better team than Geelong?
Is Richmond a better team than GWS?

it depends on the day...

 

[Dazzler9]

Why not just move the bye to in between round 20 and 21.

Because it was brought in to prevent mass resting of players immediately before finals.