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I hate to burst most people's bubble but SOS does not rate Schache. Never has since his draft year. SOS believed that he was soft and rated Kane Keppel higher than Schache, and we didn't draft him so there is your answer.Carlton offered him some ridiculous money earlier this year. Doubt they have gone cold. Reckon they are looking for a bargain bin price.
Someone else said they heard he wasn't performing well in interviews... i wonder what questions that they would be asking, would be upsetting him and why?
I hate to burst most people's bubble but SOS does not rate Schache. Never has since his draft year. SOS believed that he was soft and rated Kane Keppel higher than Schache, and we didn't draft him so there is your answer.
You have been watching too much Blackadder.SOS has a cunning plan... as cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University
You have been watching too much Blackadder.
I just knew that would be the response.You can't watch too much Blackadder!
Actually I think those stats mean picks 7&8 are materially more appealing than pick 3.
0 x 150 gamer: 21.2% (vs 20% for pick 3)
1+ x 150 gamer: 78.8% (vs 80%)
2 x 150 gamer: 28.2% (vs 0%)
7&8 have almost the same success rate for producing one good player or being a total bust, but with the bonus of returning TWO good players more than 1/4 of the time...
Overall 7&8 have an expected return of producing 1.07 x 150 gamers vs 0.80. A clear win for me.
One could argue that a successful pick 3 might produce a better player than a successful pick 7/8, but that's a whole other conversation.
Didn't know shoulder injuries were a thing until SOS came back
You don't draft someone you don't want.Well it was pretty hard to draft him, after we drafted Weitering.. and our next pick was 10
Agree with this.
If Brisbane "give" him away i"d be happy to look at him. Sounds like we're one of the few clubs who haven't ruled him out yet.
You don't draft someone you don't want.
Once again, I ask the question...
Would you prefer pick 3 (87% chance of a 150 game player) or picks 7 (60%) chance and 8 (47% chance)?
These are the realities over 15 years of drafting. 7 and 8 may be appealing on paper, and it may be way in our favour in points, but the reality says to me I think I'd rather keep pick 3.
That changes if we are going to use pick 7 or 8 to trade for a known quantity, someone who has already shown that barring injury, he's going to be a very good player for a long time. But if it's purely about going to the draft, I'm sticking with pick 3 thanks.
Exactly. And all of this is assuming that the use of historical analysis to predict this particular draft pool is useful, especially given such a limited set of data.Actually I think those stats mean picks 7&8 are materially more appealing than pick 3.
0 x 150 gamer: 21.2% (vs 20% for pick 3)
1+ x 150 gamer: 78.8% (vs 80%)
2 x 150 gamer: 28.2% (vs 0%)
7&8 have almost the same success rate for producing one good player or being a total bust, but with the bonus of returning TWO good players more than 1/4 of the time...
Overall 7&8 have an expected return of producing 1.07 x 150 gamers vs 0.80. A clear win for me.
One could argue that a successful pick 3 might produce a better player than a successful pick 7/8, but that's a whole other conversation.
If Cerra can make it to #7, the idea of Cerra and Bonar for #3 and change is incredible for our midfield prospects.If 7 and 8 could be Coffield and Cerra, then hell yes.
I understand the can't draft players after the have been drafted concept but your missing the point.But nor did we have the opportunity anyway
Just spoke with SOS, he doesn't rate your post, reckons it's soft and possibly made up.I hate to burst most people's bubble but SOS does not rate Schache. Never has since his draft year. SOS believed that he was soft...
Stop talking to yourself mate, the voices will take over.Just spoke with SOS, he doesn't rate your post, reckons it's soft and possibly made up.
I remember reading this several times at and around the draft period also. Probably the main reason it was clear for all to see Weiters was no.1, even though the media was still pumping up Schache as much as possible.I hate to burst most people's bubble but SOS does not rate Schache. Never has since his draft year. SOS believed that he was soft and rated Kane Keppel higher than Schache, and we didn't draft him so there is your answer.
One would hope so.I remember reading this several times at and around the draft period also. Probably the main reason it was clear for all to see Weiters was no.1, even though the media was still pumping up Schache as much as possible.
I wonder if this will have a similar effect to Rockliff last season, realising there is little to no interest in him at all might be the kick up the arse he needs.
SOS has a cunning plan... as cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University
Yep, normally I would be worried as well, but nobody wanted Dusty a years ago, and Brisbane could not give away Rocky last year. Schache is worth the risk, maybe not at Carlton as I think we have a good forward line developing.When clubs aren't jumping over each other to land a former Pick 2 Key Forward I have concerns
I think the whole Schache exercise is just to appease his discontentment. Lions have no cause to trade him for unders, and I don't see how they get market value.
I don't believe we are "desperately trying to get Scully". SOS is clearly aware that something more has to giveI know SOS will keep his cool, but i reckon in reality the club is really disappointed in missing out on Rockliff & Smith etc...most reports had us going pretty hard at Rockliff.
All these rumours now about us pushing Gibbs out and desperately trying to get Scully...just seems like we are desperate for mature talent.
We may never know but i reckon the club is probably really disappointed in missing out on Rockliff.