Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 4 (cont in pt 5)

[Happy Mastenator]

Also Coomey memos are out. Busy as at work, look forward to catching up on details tonight

 

[Father Jack]

Could just as easily say the same about Russian collusion/hacking?

except for that whole pesky Mueller investigation thing, sure, why not.

 

[floodbuster]

Wait MCCabe leaked info damaging to Clinton? How is this somehow going after people hostile to trump?

Just the strangest thing is that Trump's enemies currently are almost all people that helped him or are people that he has appointed.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Could just as easily say the same about Russian collusion/hacking?

Needs more soros and zionist

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

China wants the status quo maintained because it doesnt want to invade. It will be costly, bloody, and devastating to trade. As long as taiwan dont edge towards recognition as an independant state, they are fine with it.

So you suggested using the sth korean usa forces to get china to back off on taiwan. If its not independance, not recognition, what is it? What are u wanting from china in return for us troops leaving?

So, no, you didn't reflect at all on my comments as to your arguing style?

Let me be blunter:

• There are more ****ing choices than "invasion" or "status quo". Obviously. Use your brain.
  
• I have repeatedly said that Taiwan and Korea aren't linked but you are being a dumb**** and ignoring that. For what reason?
  
• You've even added to it and said that China and SoKo would be linked via some deal. Korea is it's own peninsula. Obviously. It has it's own tensions and its own interests & sovereignty that directly relate to what would happen if the US removed troops. Obviously.
  
• Here it is for the fourth time for you: The tension between the USA and China is why US removal of troops from SoKo likely won't happen. Japan isn't far from there, but it would still be seen as a major strategic loss in the region, and - guess what? - if that is a 'loss' then would it really still be the 'status quo'? The tension, as I mentioned at the beginning, involves things like Taiwan and the South China Sea (you know, the man-made islands and military development and maneuvers?).

Trump's Presidency has America as more unpredictable, but also weaker. He has to worry about not being impeached. He can't move without the Russian propaganda machine directing half his followers wherever they want to. His staff have little faith in him, and he has even less in them.

Essentially the world is hoping that Kim Jong Un is as shallow in his beliefs as Trump is. Therefore North Korea can be freed from its poverty through a diplomatic play that successfully separates personal concerns from the country and regional concerns. Feed their egos with the left hand while moving to unite the Koreas with the right.

I suspect Kim won't relent like that (his people certainly will be on the watch for it), but he did hang out with Rodman due to being a Bulls fan, apparently, and Rodman said he was like a kid, so maybe there is a potential whacky angle that will work.

Of course, all the conspiracy-lovers in the alt-right should have noted that Celebrity visits to NoKo have always been used for propaganda purposes by North Korea, and Rodman is mates with Trump, and Rodman's first visit to NoKo was shortly after filming the second of his Apprentice stints, whereupon Trump came out and lauded Rodman for doing it, while encouraging Obama to take Kim's phone call.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

So, no, you didn't reflect at all on my comments as to your arguing style?

Let me be blunter:

• There are more ****ing choices than "invasion" or "status quo". Obviously. Use your brain.
  
• I have repeatedly said that Taiwan and Korea aren't linked but you are being a dumb**** and ignoring that. For what reason?
  
• You've even added to it and said that China and SoKo would be linked via some deal. Korea is it's own peninsula. Obviously. It has it's own tensions and its own interests & sovereignty that directly relate to what would happen if the US removed troops. Obviously.
  
• Here it is for the fourth time for you: The tension between the USA and China is why US removal of troops from SoKo likely won't happen. Japan isn't far from there, but it would still be seen as a major strategic loss in the region, and - guess what? - if that is a 'loss' then would it really still be the 'status quo'? The tension, as I mentioned at the beginning, involves things like Taiwan and the South China Sea (you know, the man-made islands and military development and maneuvers?).

Trump's Presidency has America as more unpredictable, but also weaker. He has to worry about not being impeached. He can't move without the Russian propaganda machine directing half his followers wherever they want to. His staff have little faith in him, and he has even less in them.

Essentially the world is hoping that Kim Jong Un is as shallow in his beliefs as Trump is. Therefore North Korea can be freed from its poverty through a diplomatic play that successfully separates personal concerns from the country and regional concerns. Feed their egos with the left hand while moving to unite the Koreas with the right.

I suspect Kim won't relent like that (his people certainly will be on the watch for it), but he did hang out with Rodman due to being a Bulls fan, apparently, and Rodman said he was like a kid, so maybe there is a potential whacky angle that will work.

Of course, all the conspiracy-lovers in the alt-right should have noted that Celebrity visits to NoKo have always been used for propaganda purposes by North Korea, and Rodman is mates with Trump, and Rodman's first visit to NoKo was shortly after filming the second of his Apprentice stints, whereupon Trump came out and lauded Rodman for doing it, while encouraging Obama to take Kim's phone call.

You said this

"China's military build-up and tensions over South Sea/Taiwan I think limit the chances the US will agree to step back from SoKo without a concession from China."

What is the concession from china you think could make this happen, that has a hope in hell of happening?

Also china is involved in this, pretending it doesnt have an effective veto on any deal given its role with NK is naive

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

Yes and also the Science board. I like ABC news, but look far and wide for information and try to learn from history.


"People have a way of dying around her" - anonymous FBI source on Clinton. The secret service allegedly hated her too.


Maybe I'm too cynical, but would be surprised if anyone's gotten to the top without being a bit crooked. Trump included.

Same anonymous FBI source:

You Mod the conspiracy board and the science thread? While pushing clearly BS conspiracies? Yikes.

Your "anonymous FBI source" is a joke. Probably straight-up fiction with no link to the FBI whatsoever given those comments show bugger all familiarity with the law and how it works. It is wildly obvious spin. So dumb.

You said this

"China's military build-up and tensions over South Sea/Taiwan I think limit the chances the US will agree to step back from SoKo without a concession from China."

What is the concession from china you think could make this happen, that has a hope in hell of happening?

Also china is involved in this, pretending it doesnt have an effective veto on any deal given its role with NK is naive

No, bro. You don't get to ask for answers to specific questions when you have for multiple posts in a row deliberately ignored the requests I've made of you to pause and stop misrepresenting. At least you returned to the original comment (for the first time, maybe?). I stand by it.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Needs more soros and zionist

I watched a Netflix doco about Herbalife.

It really did further my belief in Soros being a piece of shit the world would be better off without.

 

[Satan]

I watched a Netflix doco about Herbalife.

It really did further my belief in Soros being a piece of shit the world would be better off without.

I blame zlatan

 

[The_Snake]

Oh, some of the things that the Left wish for!

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

I watched a Netflix doco about Herbalife.

It really did further my belief in Soros being a piece of shit the world would be better off without.

Congrats. Soros is an 87 year old man who hasn't made investment decisions for Soros Investment for years. Or do you just not like the fact he openly advocates against hard right ideas?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I watched a Netflix doco about Herbalife.

It really did further my belief in Soros being a piece of shit the world would be better off without.

Dont disagree he is a turd, doesnt mean he is a global puppetmaster responsible for controlling my brain with contrails though

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Congrats. Soros is an 87 year old man who hasn't made investment decisions for Soros Investment for years. Or do you just not like the fact he openly advocates against hard right ideas?

AFAIK, he still has a say in investment decisions but leaves some of the day to day stuff to others.

Why is his age relevant?

Your last question is nonsensical. If I disliked someone for opposing hard-right ideas, then I must dislike everyone who opposes hard-right ideas. Considering my beliefs are pretty opposed to the hard-right, do I dislike myself, too?

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Dont disagree he is a turd, doesnt mean he is a global puppetmaster responsible for controlling my brain with contrails though

I dunno, Jews can be wicked, tricksy creatures

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

AFAIK, he still has a say in investment decisions but leaves some of the day to day stuff to others.

Why is his age relevant?

Your last question is nonsensical. If I disliked someone for opposing hard-right ideas, then I must dislike everyone who opposes hard-right ideas. Considering my beliefs are pretty opposed to the hard-right, do I dislike myself, too?

It was a reference to the attacks about him that infer he is part of a conspiracy, even though he is open in his political beliefs and campaigning. On that point, your logic at the end doesn't actually make sense. I talked about someone who "openly advocates", not just someone who "opposes hard-right ideas".

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

It was a reference to the attacks about him that infer he is part of a conspiracy, even though he is open in his political beliefs and campaigning. On that point, your logic at the end doesn't actually make sense. I talked about someone who "openly advocates", not just someone who "opposes hard-right ideas".

I agree with rfc74 in that he's not a global puppet master engineering the global spread of liberalism.

Other issues still stand re: the ethics of taking huge positions shorting currencies.

Yeah, my last point was kinda stupid.

 

[GuruJane]

Oh, some of the things that the Left wish for!

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Breach of Maggie's privacy. Tut tut.

 

[floodbuster]

Breach of Maggie's privacy. Tut tut.

Something a stalker wouldn't be accused of huh?

 

[GuruJane]

Something a stalker wouldn't be accused of huh?

aw, Mags goes "stalking" Trump Supporters here every day.
She can take a joke if they can ......

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

aw, Mags goes "stalking" Trump Supporters here every day.
She can take a joke if they can ......

Still stalking Christian Porter, or do you need the powerhose of BS from full-on Trumpian nutbars like The_Snake to catch your eye these days?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Trumpeters going very quiet on the content of the Coomey memos

 

[floodbuster]

aw, Mags goes "stalking" Trump Supporters here every day.
She can take a joke if they can ......

Replying to random comments is not stalking, referenceing someone multiple times is.

 

[floodbuster]

Trumpeters going very quiet on the content of the Coomey memos

Also I'm betting they don't want to mention Cohen has dropped his fusion GPS lawsuit over his claim the dossier is fake.

 

[Crow54]

Oh, some of the things that the Left wish for!

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We certainly don't need nuking Nth Korea to make Trump look bad. He just does it by opening his mouth, and typing on his phone.

 

[Crow54]

Trumpeters going very quiet on the content of the Coomey memos

This could be why.

Twitter Wonders Why House Republicans Pushed For Release of Comey Memos: Nunes ‘Is An Imbecile’

Following the release of former FBI Director James Comey‘s memos detailing his interactions with President Donald Trump, Twitter is wondering why anyone thought this was a good idea, especially House Republicans.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/twi...-release-of-comey-memos-nunes-is-an-imbecile/