No Oppo Supporters 2018 General AFL Discussion

[rebeti]

A supposed sex tape allegedly involving Pie legend Dane Swan is being offered to various media outlets.The cynic in me, is inclined to believe that this might be a potential ratings grab by the famous Fat Controller - EDDIE.Sex Tape and Footy show exclusive is a popular theme,especially if the camera operator of alleged video is ED.

 

[Tedeski]

The new stadium in WA doesn't have a problem at all with it's playing surface.
Move along now. Nothing to see here.
Stop making excuses!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-03/ongoing-foot-injury-outs-important-eagle

 

[PVF]

A supposed sex tape allegedly involving Pie legend Dane Swan is being offered to various media outlets.The cynic in me, is inclined to believe that this might be a potential ratings grab by the famous Fat Controller - EDDIE.Sex Tape and Footy show exclusive is a popular theme,especially if the camera operator of alleged video is ED.

It was making the rounds the other day. Got a 10 second snapchat video posted on one of my groupchats on Facebook.

 

[Tuco]

"State of the game" bylines are rubbish.

We're 6 rounds in and 15 teams are still in the hunt for the 8.

FWIW some of the worst football in history happened off the tv in suburban grounds in the "glory years" - and half the time only 5 teams were ever a chance in any given year.

 

[Number37]

"State of the game" bylines are rubbish.

We're 6 rounds in and 15 teams are still in the hunt for the 8.

FWIW some of the worst football in history happened off the tv in suburban grounds in the "glory years" - and half the time only 5 teams were ever a chance in any given year.

When 2 or 3 of Carlton, Saints, North, Pies, Dogs look like finishing bottom 4 the discussion will inevitably turn to "woe is Victorian teams".

 

[Tuco]

When 2 or 3 of Carlton, Saints, North, Pies, Dogs look like finishing bottom 4 the discussion will inevitably turn to "woe is Victorian teams".

Checks ladder.

Yep Essendon, Collingwood and Carlton outside the 8. Cue the apocalypse.

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Checks ladder.

Yep Essendon, Collingwood and Carlton outside the 8. Cue the apocalypse.

It's more like the new normal.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

The new stadium in WA doesn't have a problem at all with it's playing surface.
Move along now. Nothing to see here.
Stop making excuses!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-03/ongoing-foot-injury-outs-important-eagle

Must be like concrete undernealth hoping no one lands on their head or gets slingtackled.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Please tell me we dont play Freo there this year do we?

 

[kickthething]

A supposed sex tape allegedly involving Pie legend Dane Swan is being offered to various media outlets.The cynic in me, is inclined to believe that this might be a potential ratings grab by the famous Fat Controller - EDDIE.Sex Tape and Footy show exclusive is a popular theme,especially if the camera operator of alleged video is ED.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

People have sex wowee.

 

[caesar88]

People have sex wowee.

Hey, sex is responsible for the fantastic tradition of clubs getting the offspring that these sexual encounters produce. It's vital to our game!

 

[Tuco]

Sex = kids = Father Son eligibility = #lolnorf

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

It was making the rounds the other day. Got a 10 second snapchat video posted on one of my groupchats on Facebook.

Which is the entire tape.

 

[bedford]

"State of the game" bylines are rubbish.

We're 6 rounds in and 15 teams are still in the hunt for the 8.

FWIW some of the worst football in history happened off the tv in suburban grounds in the "glory years" - and half the time only 5 teams were ever a chance in any given year.

The game is terrible atm.

 

[Tuco]

The game is terrible atm.

By what measure? Goals scored?

Eveness of the competition?

Number of blow outs?

Number of tackles?

Number of stoppages?

Number of members?

Crowd sizes?

Tv ratings?

Number of insolvent clubs?

State of local leagues?

Number of spekkies per game?

Player participation numbers?

Annual turnover of the League?

State of facilities?

Player welfare?

Player remuneration?

By most measures modern footy is well ahead. So far ahead on the metrics tbat mattter than the good old days of, say, the 80's aren't even close.

Footy is "rubbish" is just a vibe.

If it really is all about defensive pressure, meh. I'll take a score of 94 to 90 in a closely fought game with both sides in it until the siren over watching a top 4 side kick 174 points to 30 against a club that is literally about to fold any day.

 

[bedford]

Enjoy it then , I'm not and I love the game , but not how its played now. So you'd enjoy Plugger up near the middle of the ground,, I don't think so.

 

[Tuco]

It's not a binary discussion with a right and a wrong Bedford. I wasn't have a crack at you. The game has changed, and many feel as you do.

I hate a lack of forward structure as much as anyone. It's a constant discussion on these boards.

Mobile Full fowards have been thing now for decades, though. There's no magic switch.

Defenders have a right to defend as well. And really apart from setting zones like netball and stopping freedom of movement around the ground - which i think really would destroy football - how do you stop players from creating 2 on ones, and rebounding?

With so many goals coming from deep in defence, the days of a man standing still 30m out from goal are gone.

We've lost Plugger one out in the goal square. In it's place we've got waves of attack with 10 or more players moving together to create a goal. In opposition we have 10 players moving with them to stop them.

How did this happen? Professionalism.

An increased professionalism has always changed tactics in sports. And those changes were always permanent.

Zone defence didn't always exist in basketball, team defense didn't always exist in Soccer. In AR it's no different.

A lot of the yearning for how it was in older periods is a yearning for a return to simpler days when there was little to no actual strategy in footy.

It was forcings back. Everyone stayed in their positions and bombed it long. The game was uncomplicated. If all teams played along with this notion that there is only one way to play that's fine. But they didn't.

Teams like the Hawks in the 80's ran at defences with handpasses. Teams like West Coast in the early 90s set up defensive structures where everything built off half back. Teams like the Swans created presses between the arcs, teams like the Saints employed floods, teams like North crushed the forwadline down to create the Pagan paddock (no fwd structure at all), teams like Essendon developed a devastating short kicking game, teams like Brisbane went man on man, teams like the Hawks went zonal...

On and on. Evolution.

Going back to the 80's style of footy, coaches worked out that unskilled disposals were an opportunity to gain possession and hurt the other side. They built team strategies to force turnovers, and make opponents to hold the ball.

It's a done thing. Having the league create an offside or zones etc will only lead to other opportunities for coaches to devlop winning formulae.

 

[CD__]

I’m not keeping score or anything but if I was it would be Tuco 2 - Bedford 0.

 

[Number37]

I’m not keeping score or anything but if I was it would be Tuco 2 - Bedford 0.

In soccer scoring maybe.
Aussie Rules it would 18 goals to 1 behind at the end of the 3rd quarter with Bedders to kick into a 100kph gale in the 4th.
Bedders would of course decline to bring his forwards out of the forward line to get near the ball because that would ruin the game.

 

[ScrewInStuds]

Personally my least favourite form of football is the Hawks' style of running onto little uncontested chip kicks, which many purists will tell you is great football. I'd much rather see a chain of great handballs to move the ball through congestion, each one staying just ahead of the pressure like Indiana Jones escaping a boulder.

Each to their own I guess.

 

[RW]

In some ways we are to blame for modern footy being played the way it is, as we almost play a form of rugby in how we play for field position/territory and like to get numbers around the ball. That's not entirely a bad thing though as it means teams have to be good to be able to break away from the congestion. Coaches should be developing strategies to counteract the "team defence" that we and other teams play. Horse's game plan is predictable, but he hasn't really needed to change it, as it's been good enough to beat most sides except for the Hawks.

 

[Number37]

In some ways we are to blame for modern footy being played the way it is, as we almost play a form of rugby in how we play for field position/territory and like to get numbers around the ball. That's not entirely a bad thing though as it means teams have to be good to be able to break away from the congestion. Coaches should be developing strategies to counteract the "team defence" that we and other teams play. Horse's game plan is predictable, but he hasn't really needed to change it, as it's been good enough to beat most sides except for the Hawks.

Only the Springboks and shitty teams play the field position/territory game in Rugby. Like Aussie Rules the running game is by far the better spectacle, similarly, you have to have the platform to play it effectively. Bombing it long is negative, unwatchable football, no matter the code.

 

[bedford]

I’m not keeping score or anything but if I was it would be Tuco 2 - Bedford 0.

Is that what you think, good for you. No one is winning anything , we are disagreeing.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Hmmn. I miss the one on ones, that featured in every match eg

Flower v Hawkins
Capper standing on Langford's head
Skilts towelling up Goggin/Aylett
Dempsey v Any other ruckman
Plugger v any full back plus hangers on
Stewart v Barrott

Nowadays we have group v group, eg mids v mids. The game is more strategic involving chains of effort and skill across the ground. I still find footy engrossing but in a different way than I once did.

Watching Buddy play is a bit of throwback to the individual brilliance of old, yet he remains very team oriented. I admit his skills often just make me laugh.