Autopsy Rd 9 Belted by a ton ... few positives

[Bluandblublu]

Interesting interview with Roos and Bolton at half time has that been mentioned ?

No so tell us why it was so interesting. What did each actually say that you considered important and memorable?

 

[ESKIE]

109 point loss is atrocious... I get the reasons you can put lip stick on a pig....

But I’m going just put this one aside, get some players back in next week and have a red hot go at the handbags

 

[Ald Gardiner]

Didn't like the fact that we didn't drop anyone for Murphy. He was going to come in whether Curnow missed or not, just felt one more mid in place of a O'shea/Mullett/Plowman would have been the way to go against Melbourne, or most teams for that matter

Agree, and it was likely that one more mid was Kennedy but alas ankle flared up again and kept him out, bloody frustrating

 

[BlueBayou]

I'm not surprised we lost, I rate the Dee's as a top 6 team, maybe even better. I'm dissapointed in the awareness of the in game tactics, some of the efforts displayed and lack of response to the spray the coach apparently handed out at 3/4 time.

The Blues lacked the intensity shown last week. I understand that with a very young & inexperienced team inconsistency is to be expected, but that was a swing that is too large to be explained away by simple callowness. They were up with the Dees at 1/4 time, what changed?

My thoughts during the 2nd term, and certainly during the 3rd was that we should have made the game an ugly scrap. Load up the backline with 10 or 12 players. Leave only H and maybe Lamb up forward, the mids in the midfield and everyone else behind the ball to cauterise the flow of goals. Try the slingshot game perhaps. At least clog up their f50 entries. I'm not sure what we gained by sticking to a failing game plan for the entirety of the match.

It cannot do the growth or confidence of the talented kids (and we have a few gems) much good to cop a beating like that. An honourable 6 goal loss would be seen as acceptable. A 15+ goal drubbing is not.

So I can end on a positive (if sardonic) note Blues > *. * > Kitty's. Ergo Blues > Kitties (I live in hope )

 

[Dadda Dave]

Interesting interview with Roos and Bolton at half time has that been mentioned ?

Didn't hear it ?

 

[ESKIE]

No so tell us why it was so interesting. What did each actually say that you considered important and memorable?

Can’t remember word for word, thought Bolton was doing a good job, knew what’s it’s like in a rebuild...

I’ll see if I can find the link

 

[Accidental genius]

I'm not surprised we lost, I rate the Dee's as a top 6 team, maybe even better. I'm dissapointed in the awareness of the in game tactics, some of the efforts displayed and lack of response to the spray the coach apparently handed out at 3/4 time.

The Blues lacked the intensity shown last week. I understand that with a very young inexperienced team inconsistency is to be expected, but that was a swing that is too large to be explained away by simple callowness. They were up with the Dees at 1/4 time, what changed?

My thoughts during the 2nd term, and certainly during the 3rd was that we should have made the game an ugly scrap. Load up the backline with 10 or 12 players. Leave only H and maybe Lamb up forward, the mids in the midfield and everyone else behind the ball to cauterise the flow of goals. Try the slingshot game perhaps. At least clog up their f50 entries. I'm not sure what we gained by sticking to a failing game plan for the entirety of the match.

It cannot do the growth or confidence of the talented kids (and we have a few gems) much good to cop a beating like that. An honourable 6 goal loss would be seen as acceptable. A 15+ goal drubbing is not.

So I can end on a positive (if sardonic) note Blues > *. * > Kitty's. Ergo Blues > Kitties (I live in hope )

Not an unreasonable or a very sophisticated strategy.....so begs the question - how does an entire coaching panel not see things like this? Isn't this where the assistants could be helping out. Do they not discuss potential strategies etc?

 

[LordLucifer]

give it a rest Sheikh lol

There you go again
nobody can have an opinion
you don't like open discussion?

let the discussion flow

No prizes for second Synners.

 

[AB_Blue]

I only watched the first quarter in full. Got a couple of glimpses of the rest on my phone whilst at work.

Must have been a huge drop in intensity after half time as I actually thought we were going ok until half way through the second quarter.

It was poor of the match committee to give 2 inexperienced forwards the burden of running the forward line. However it was poorer coaching to allow Lever to play loose for the entire day.

I asked where the goals would come from yesterday and I always thought we were light for talls coming into the game

Ultimately it was our thin midfield that caused most of the drubbing. We need to add 1-2 experienced mods around Cripps going into next year.

Murphy is done as a mid at AFL level. Lacks the hardness that is required. Could be a handy high half forward for the rest of his career.

Garlett is a soft as butter....ineffective
I think the Cam O’Shea experiment has run its race and it’s time to call up Weitering.
Ditto for mullet...bring cunners in

Hard (and stupid) to drop Kerr for Charlie unless Levi is available

Disappointed but I expected to lose by 7-10 goals without the Curnow bros.

Limp to the bye and relaunch with fresh players and a fresh attitude [emoji106][emoji106]

 

[LordLucifer]

It was poor of the match committee to give 2 inexperienced forwards the burden of running the forward line.

I am in the opposite camp on this one actually.

Whilst it was through necessity that they did it, I felt that it was also to clearly illustrate to the two young guys concerned what it takes to play at the senior level in a key role. There would be (make that should be) some reasonably thorough review stuff with them as part of their learning curve.

If they turn out better players in the long run then one blip on the radar isn't going to hurt us now.

 

[Cutz]

Does anybody else get super frustrated when we have a free kick in the centre square and instead of sending the ball inside 50, we go backwards 20m, sideways 20m, back the other way 30m, and then fumble and give the ball up in our defensive 50?

Why are we constantly playing the low % option and not trying to get the ball inside 50 and cause a stoppage?

I think the reason for this might be;

1. If you bring it into your forward 50 in a haphazard manner it tends to just go straight back out.
2. Our forwards arent that great at keeping it in the forward 50 zone (yet). Small forwards might be something we need to look at moving forward maybe ?

I think broadly speaking we need to get better at the above. Particularly as Charlie and Harry both mature.

It will probably be something we get better at as our mids mature. Teagues got a fair bit of work in front of him !

 

[F_therest]

The bye can't come soon enough. Expecting Weitering, Marchbank, Kennedy, Cuningham and Williamson to all be fit and ready to go for the Freo game. Hopefully that'll mean we never have to see Mullet, O'Shea or Rowe playing for Carlton ever again. None of the three would get a game at any other club and we have all three playing in the same defensive 50m. It actually hurts to watch.

Thought Rowe was alright actually.

But yeah, all we can do is hope that our performances improve once we get those guys in.

 

[LordLucifer]

Plowman
Rowe
Mullett
O’Shea
Daisy
Graham
Kerridge
These guys are the weakest bottom 6 or seven going around and there’s a couple of more I could add to that list if pushed.

They will all be moved on in good time, we still have a lot of players to juggle around and see the end of.

 

[F_therest]

Does anybody else get super frustrated when we have a free kick in the centre square and instead of sending the ball inside 50, we go backwards 20m, sideways 20m, back the other way 30m, and then fumble and give the ball up in our defensive 50?

Why are we constantly playing the low % option and not trying to get the ball inside 50 and cause a stoppage?

Yep.

When you get it in that position we should almost always send it long and deep, and quickly.

Put their defence under pressure, gain some territory and give our forwards a chance.

 

[thylacine60]

our entries into the 50 today would have an under 12s coach in therapy

 

[AB_Blue]

I am in the opposite camp on this one actually.

Whilst it was through necessity that they did it, I felt that it was also to clearly illustrate to the two young guys concerned what it takes to play at the senior level in a key role. There would be (make that should be) some reasonably thorough review stuff with them as part of their learning curve.

If they turn out better players in the long run then one blip on the radar isn't going to hurt us now.

Its fine to do that but even the contest for them. Wouldn’t of mattered who was competing up there today leaving Lever in his preferred position intercepting was poor

 

[Juddernaut08]

Interesting interview with Roos and Bolton at half time has that been mentioned ?

nope went to the bullring at halftime. what did they say?

 

[Wickzki]

What spoons.

Can you show me where at the Club they are displayed.

See? St. Kilda has one.

 

[El Topo]

Not an unreasonable or a very sophisticated strategy.....so begs the question - how does an entire coaching panel not see things like this? Isn't this where the assistants could be helping out. Do they not discuss potential strategies etc?

Bolton made a comment at one stage about not deviating from the plan. We could have gone ultra defensive to control the damage, but there seems to be a 'big picture' strategy to have the kids learn a more balanced style irrespective of short term results.

(I think this is approach is misguided FWIW)

 

[King Karl]

Thought Rowe was alright actually.

But yeah, all we can do is hope that our performances improve once we get those guys in.

How often does he leave his man to influence a contest then doesn't make the ground to actually contest - leaving a free opposition player on his own. This doesn't always come through on the TV screen but being at the ground it is actually horrifying to witness it happen multiple times a game. He would have to be the least efficient 'spoiler' in the competition too. His spoils either go straight to the front and centre or he actually misses the ball with his fist. His kicking is horrendous and his game awareness is embarrassing (kicking out through the points today). I will never doubt his endeavour or commitment and to return to elite sport after cancer is a great story. The story needs to end now though.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

Haha what have i said ??

All good I've always got ya back

 

[Accidental genius]

Bolton made a comment at one stage about not deviating from the plan. We could have gone ultra defensive to control the damage, but there seems to be a 'big picture' strategy to have the kids learn a more balanced style irrespective of short term results.

(I think this is approach is misguided FWIW)

Yeah makes sense if that is the strategy....While I've got your attention....are you related to farktherest?

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Yep.

When you get it in that position we should almost always send it long and deep, and quickly.

Put their defence under pressure, gain some territory and give our forwards a chance.

Problem is our fwds are usually up on the wing

 

[BlueBayou]

Not an unreasonable or a very sophisticated strategy.....so begs the question - how does an entire coaching panel not see things like this? Isn't this where the assistants could be helping out. Do they not discuss potential strategies etc?

I was being deliberately unsophisticated. Just clog the backline and run forward when possible. I know it is ugly and not the way forward, but FMD, the biggest losing margin to the Fuscias since 1897 is not acceptable.

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Its fine to do that but even the contest for them. Wouldn’t of mattered who was competing up there today leaving Lever in his preferred position intercepting was poor

perfect storm. A defender who likes to peel off and intercept and us naming a first gamer a centre half forward (who got the call up because of injury not because his performances at VFL level warranted it). Mckay was the only forward they had to worry about so it was easy for the melbourne defense to do what they wanted. Lamb to hibberd was a good move but it was a deckchair titanic kind of scenario.