Player Watch Sam Murray - (Delisted 2019)

[Pragmatic Shill]

It's the same process wise ass.

Test positive to A sample ---> Test B sample ----> Negative/Positve -----> Banned if positive

We're still yet to find out the B sample results.

Another example.
Lachie Keefe and Josh Thomas, A sample positive in March, B Sample positive in May.

Every legal case is different. You don't need a law degree to know that.

I also don't see what the rush is. Some people here think it's some conspiracy on the behalf of ASADA because it's a Collingwood player, which is flat out laughable.

 

[DWil6]

Every legal case is different. You don't need a law degree to know that.

I also don't see what the rush is. Some people here think it's some conspiracy on the behalf of ASADA because it's a Collingwood player, which is flat out laughable.

Will his 2 years be back dated assuming that’s what he gets?

 

[Unknown Identity]

Will his 2 years be back dated assuming that’s what he gets?

Yes it will be.

 

[frizzle]

We are waiting for the statute of limitations to kick in.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

https://afl.com.au/news/2019-03-21/afl-reveals-key-dates-for-midseason-rookie-draft

 

[Vicky Park]

They should get to it about the time they finish with Jarndyce v Jarndyce

Or finish building the Sagrada Familia?

 

[didaksrightfoot]

Or finish building the Sagrada Familia?

(only from having visited last year)

 

[didaksrightfoot]

https://afl.com.au/news/2019-03-21/afl-reveals-key-dates-for-midseason-rookie-draft

Going by those dates - unlikely we have an ASADA outcome for Murray by the 27th April (unless I've missed something). I reckon unlikely we go to the MSD unless we need to use a LTI spot.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Unless it’s a good quality type can’t see the need for bringing in a very basic type.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Unless it’s a good quality type can’t see the need for bringing in a very basic type.

Unless a pressing need I would wait and see what comes out of the state league form.

 

[Jen2310]

We'll be lucky if we know a result by mid-season. Maybe next off season? lol

 

[Jaeger]

Was he banned?

 

[TradeDraft]

Was he banned?

Still waiting for B Sample to be Tested and get Result

 

[Pie eyed]

ASADA.

LOL.
Halfwits.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Why are people persisting with:

Waiting for the B sample.

The samples would be completed and the legal discussions and agreements are yet to be completed.

NB: if the B sample was compromised the case would be thrown out.
So this would be resolved with Murray being available.

 

[HFF]

How far off is this case from being resolved one way or another?

 

[The Royal Sampler]

How far off is this case from being resolved one way or another?

It’s touch and go, this outcome or Halley’s Comet’s next orbit... may the best man win.

 

[DinoSoar]

Why are people persisting with:

Waiting for the B sample.

The samples would be completed and the legal discussions and agreements are yet to be completed.

NB: if the B sample was compromised the case would be thrown out.
So this would be resolved with Murray being available.

Agreed, as per the highlighted section in the below screenshot from the ASADA website. The relevant sports tribunal in this case is the AFL’s therefore the delay in finalising is most likely due to the AFL - no surprises there.

 

[TradeDraft]

Why are people persisting with:

Waiting for the B sample.

The samples would be completed and the legal discussions and agreements are yet to be completed.

NB: if the B sample was compromised the case would be thrown out.
So this would be resolved with Murray being available.

So he tested postive and there trying to work out his Punishment?

 

[DinoSoar]

So he tested postive and there trying to work out his Punishment?

In all likelihood, yes.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Still waiting for B Sample to be Tested and get Result

Like seriously how long can it take to achieve a result from a secondary sample. It's been over 7 months since he initially tested positive!

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

In all likelihood, yes.

Shouldn't be that hard, it's either 2 years or 4 years.

 

[DinoSoar]

Shouldn't be that hard, it's either 2 years or 4 years.

One would think so but given the delay and that this is the AFL we’re talking about, it could well be the AFL is trying to finesse a 12 month ban and negotiating with ASASA to get them to accept the reasoning. Who knows, it will all come out eventually.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

So he tested postive and there trying to work out his Punishment?

That’s it in a nutshell.

If sample B was tarnished he’d be free. Like winning tattslotto.

So I assume it’s just negotiation to the circumstances of that particular positive test.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Like seriously how long can it take to achieve a result from a secondary sample. It's been over 7 months since he initially tested positive!

Repeat from above.
The sample B is back.

It would be positive ie the same as sample A.

So then a decision to punishment needs to be made. He is entitled to representation and they would be arguing the actual circumstances of the breach. When, how purpose of the drug taken. When taken, proof given thereof etc.

And to boot, the penalty is proscribed to circumstances, I’d suggest.