Booing of Gary Ablett

[Walter H White]

Booing can kill.

Underrated.

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[STPer18]

You've realised you've got no argument left and now you're just spouting some generalist argument about outrage and being sheep. I was never on the outrage wagon... I said Gary deserved to be called out for supporting a homophobic post and he was.

You keep throwing out the word 'homophobic' as do the rest of the permanently outraged masses, yet all we've got to back up such a claim is a 'like' on a social media post which in itself wasn't even homophobic to begin with - although that's not to say that you can't disagree with the initial premise of it. You've chosen to interpret these actions with minimal thought, now allow the rest of us to laugh at the stupidity of it. Such is our right.

 

[Walter H White]

The whole thing is just the media making a story out of a non-story.

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[Bostonian]

He's a little mercenary, why not boo him?

 

[Gough]

He's a little mercenary, why not boo him?

Given the choice between god and mammon, we've seen which side he's on and I believe idolatry is a bit of a no no.

 

[BLions2k19]

Removing a like and following that up with an excuse on social media doesn't mean people will just forgive him and his obvious homophobia, it is 2019 after all.

 

[RICHOLEGEND12]

You keep throwing out the word 'homophobic' as do the rest of the permanently outraged masses, yet all we've got to back up such a claim is a 'like' on a social media post which in itself wasn't even homophobic to begin with - although that's not to say that you can't disagree with the initial premise of it. You've chosen to interpret these actions with minimal thought, now allow the rest of us to laugh at the stupidity of it. Such is our right.

How is it not homophobic?

homophobia
/ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪə,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪə/
noun
1. Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

I think 'Homosexuals repent or you're going to hell' comes under that. However stupid social media is, liking such a post, is affirming it and supporting it.

 

[theyellowsash]

Remember we have to include everyone right? Even Gary.

No, you have to include everyone without prejudice before they take actions to give just reason to be excluded, like violence, hate speech etc. Unless you think we should be accepting of nazis and Muslim extremists. Although from your arguments I'm sure you'd accept the first because they're white and Christian.

 

[smasha]

Players have been booed since we ate tripe.

Ablett is yet another one but Hocking and Whateley have jumped to his defence.

What about the hundreds of other players booed?

Where is their violin duet?

Fair enough about bringing up little Gaz but other players have been recipients since that fateful day I tried my grandmothers tripe dish,R.I.P. nana.

 

[theyellowsash]

Being a fornicator and a liar myself, I should probably be outraged and offended too. I'm not. Personally il defend someones right to like a post quoted from their religious text as much as il defend an individuals right to boo at a footy game if they wish.

I just think it's ironic that people are arguing Ablett vilified one group (but ignoring all the other words) and are now happy to vilify (boo and insult) Ablett or other religious people with those beliefs because its something they disagree with. It seems an eye for an eye is fine, but it's only allowed in one direction.

Yes, because gays aren't inherently saying other people are evil based on their natural being, while ablett is saying gay people are evil simply for being gay. Abletts vilification of gay people is both completely unfounded and general to all gays, while the 'vilification' of him is directed at him alone and in response to his own hateful actions.

Only an absolute moron cannot see this.

 

[STPer18]

How is it not homophobic?

homophobia
/ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪə,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪə/
noun
1. Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

I think 'Homosexuals repent or you're going to hell' comes under that. However stupid social media is, liking such a post, is affirming it and supporting it.

You're obviously content that a simple 'like' on social media is enough to condemn someone as a 'homophobic', despite the initial post he 'liked' not even being 'homophobic' to begin with, and then also completely disregarding his justification because you obviously know what thoughts were running through his mind at the time. It's bonkers logic, but it doesn't surprise me. When there's a chance to feel personally aggrieved, no matter how small, a lot of people love to take it and run with it. It's a compulsion of sorts. There can be disagreement of ideas without necessarily always being 'homophobic' or other such labels that are so readily thrown around.

I want to make it clear that I love ALL people regardless of race, religion, gender or sexuality.
I have always admired how strong Izzy is in his faith, it is not easy to share faith in the public sphere, and this is why I initially 'liked' his post.
I understand that liking this post appeared offensive and this is why I chose to remove my 'like' from the post.

 

[STPer18]

Yes, because gays aren't inherently saying other people are evil based on their natural being, while ablett is saying gay people are evil simply for being gay. Abletts vilification of gay people is both completely unfounded and general to all gays, while the 'vilification' of him is directed at him alone and in response to his own hateful actions.

Only an absolute moron cannot see this.

So many false truths in this one short post that's it's not even worth the time to point them all out. Scary if you actually believe all that, hopefully that's just a troll. It will be OK.

 

[RICHOLEGEND12]

You're obviously content that a simple 'like' on social media is enough to condemn someone as a 'homophobic', despite the initial post he 'liked' not even being 'homophobic' to begin with, and then also completely disregarding his justification because you obviously know what thoughts were running through his mind at the time. It's bonkers logic, but it doesn't surprise me. When there's a chance to feel personally aggrieved, no matter how small, a lot of people love to take it and run with it. It's a compulsion of sorts. There can be disagreement of ideas without necessarily always being 'homophobic' or other such labels that are so readily thrown around.

Didn't we just establish it was homophobic? You'e talking in circles.

 

[STPer18]

Removing a like and following that up with an excuse on social media doesn't mean people will just forgive him and his obvious homophobia, it is 2019 after all.

I think you nailed the main issue in one hit.

 

[Sttew]

Deserved every boo & more. If the AFL were serious about inclusion and vilification then they should've come down a lot harder on Ablett. But it's Ablett so play on.

So you don’t accept Ablett’s apology and explanation? You’re a hard man or should I say, person.

 

[STPer18]

Didn't we just establish it was homophobic? You'e talking in circles.

'We' didn't establish anything. The crux of the matter is that nothing in this whole scenario was inherently 'homophobic'. Chosing to interpret something as 'homophobic' despite it not being doesn't make it so. It's like me labelling a Holden Commodore a Lamborghini, I'm free to do so, but there's no truth to it.

 

[BLions2k19]

I think you nailed the main issue in one hit.

Justification or excuse? I often make excuses when caught out also..

 

[RICHOLEGEND12]

'We' didn't establish anything. The crux of the matter is that nothing in this whole scenario was inherently 'homophobic'. Chosing to interpret something as 'homophobic' despite it not being doesn't make it so. It's like me labelling a Holden Commodore a Lamborghini, I'm free to do so, but there's no truth to it.

So you think saying gay people are going to hell just for being gay isn't homophobic?......... ................ Well, I suppose if its okay, it's okay, hey, you should get a t-shirt made up of it. Saying exactly that 'gay people are going to hell for being gay'. Walk around melbourne wearing it. It will be fine. Gary could get one made up too, wear it pre and post match. Hell while you're at it why don't you just start hanging around these guys. Definitely not homophobic either. Saying this guy is homophobic is like comparing a Holden Barina to Mustang fastback.

 

[STPer18]

So you think saying gay people are going to hell just for being gay isn't homophobic?......... ................ Well, I suppose if its okay, it's okay, hey, you should get a t-shirt made up of it. Saying exactly that 'gay people are going to hell for being gay'. Walk around melbourne wearing it. It will be fine. Gary could get one made up too, wear it pre and post match. Hell while you're at it why don't you just start hanging around these guys. Definitely not homophobic either. Saying this guy is homophobic is like comparing a Holden Barina to Mustang fastback.

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Now surely even you with your failed logic can see the difference between the two situations we are discussing here? If not you're beyond help. And I'm supposed to take your word that you're certain that this situation is definitely 'homophobic'. You wanted to get outraged and you did. Congratulations I guess?

 

[RICHOLEGEND12]

Now surely even you with your failed logic can see the difference between the two situations we are discussing here? If not you're beyond help. And I'm supposed to take your word that you're certain that this situation is definitely 'homophobic'. You wanted to get outraged and you did. Congratulations I guess?

So...what's the difference exactly? The use of the word *** make its homophobic ? So you'd be okay with God hates Homosexuals and Homosexuals die god laughs? After all God obviously doesn't like homosexuals if he's sending them to hell, a place of torment and punishment.

 

[Gough]

Most fundies only started a fretting and a fraying about the gays when the commos got beaten and they needed something else to scare the bejesus out of their flock with and a community crippled by an epidemic in the early 90s was a typically soft target.

 

[Maverick5]

existing the land of the living..we r all just stuffing a pillow

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Gets booed as he is a spoilt brat who showed no loyalty leaving Geelong for megabucks then cried to get back to Geelong. Stages for frees throws his arms about at umpires no wonder every other side can't stand him.

i guess you have never left your job for a pay rise then?

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

Its funny how the media just can't seem to comprehend he's being booed as a supporter base just doesn't like him. Similar to goodes, Hawks fans don't like Ablett, and we don't like Geelong. Ablett is the personification of Geelong, so he got booed. Do people honestly think it was his religious views that saw him booed?
Ryan Crowley got booed all the time, especially by North supporters, yet nothing ever said.
Stephen Milne copped a lot worse week in week out from opposition supporters and yet the media said nothing.

They are jumping on this as a way to sell newspapers. it's not a story, a player got booed, big f#$ken deal.

Move on. He's fine with it, why can't we be?

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

When and where did Ablett not include or vilify anyone? It seems that you are the one doing the vilifying here.

Are you being serious? He liked a post saying homosexuals go to hell. Sounds like vilifying to me. Your little magician who can do no wrong sounds like a homophobic bigot to me.