Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 11

[Andre]

Crowds that cheer a lot also boo a lot - better the booing than universal silence regardless of the game.

For me booing is the right side of the white line that, when crossed, leads to dumb soccer shit like throwing flares and rioting

And Essendon fans were at least booing a poor umpiring display. Over the top booing by the likes of West Coast and Adelaide every home game, when they are on the 'right' side of it is more something to highlight as shit behaviour. As usual with the AFL selective on which things are good and which are bad.

The blanket attributing of motives to everyone is about the worst of it though. Like no one booed Goodes because he made an art of sliding in with the knees first and risking causing a serious injury or deliberately pushed players into others. Both of which Port copped from him. Or some people booed Ablett because he's smashed their side many times and great players tend to cop more boos.

I'm not a boo everything fan. I'm going to wreck my voice at matches through the year, but I'd rather do that yelling out at the umpires or opposition players then booing them. Booing lacks the personal touch a yelled insult does. It's cathartic, even if the eldest will disown me during games due to it.

 

[ozph1870]

Yeah but I'm pretty confident it was his reaction to that in 2003 that saw the awarding changed so that only the best player from the winning team gets it now.

Chris Judd won it a couple of years later when Sydney won the flag.

 

[GremioPower]

"Wrong uniforms. Boooooo!" (Seinfeld)

 

[JUSTWORK]

Did anyone watch Wingard on Marngrook tonight?

No, anything to note ?

 

[King_Tredrea]

No one has the moral authority to judge whether or not booing is acceptable or unacceptable. It just exists. It’s not something that needs to be condemned, or applauded. It just exists. Unless there are going to be new rules that booing equals ejection from the ground, there’s no real point of discussing it in an all-encompassing moral-absolute fashion. In reality, what Gerard Whateley, or Nathan Buckley, or any individual thinks about booing, isn’t relevant to anything.

 

[ibd77]

Give it time the public will need to be chemically lobotomized prior to entering an AFL venue for the sake of player and umpire mental well being.

 

[OneGreatClub]

No, anything to note ?

No I missed it, was just curious

 

[1954]

If they ban booing the fruit tingle and wet toast barrackers at their home games won't know what to do.

 

[Powerstufff]

From the Herald Sun via Mark Robinson on Twitter

 

[ozph1870]

From the Herald Sun via Mark Robinson on Twitter

Yeah that's exactly what happened...
World's gone mad

 

[Boxx]

If they ban booing the fruit tingle and wet toast barrackers at their home games won't know what to do.

I assume the cows will just turn up the crowd noise through the speakers...

 

[Powerstufff]

Give it time the public will need to be chemically lobotomized prior to entering an AFL venue for the sake of player and umpire mental well being.

That was going OK until they closed the Gameday Village

 

[Schulzenfest]

Give it time the public will need to be chemically lobotomized prior to entering an AFL venue for the sake of player and umpire mental well being.

They've been trialling that at Crows games for a few years' now haven't they?

 

[Waspy79]

No one has the moral authority to judge whether or not booing is acceptable or unacceptable. It just exists. It’s not something that needs to be condemned, or applauded. It just exists. Unless there are going to be new rules that booing equals ejection from the ground, there’s no real point of discussing it in an all-encompassing moral-absolute fashion. In reality, what Gerard Whateley, or Nathan Buckley, or any individual thinks about booing, isn’t relevant to anything.

I tend to agree, but it is drilled into us that it is racist if the victim/target decides it is. Where does this position sit with your views on booing, or is that opening another can of non-footy related worms.

 

[King_Tredrea]

I tend to agree, but it is drilled into us that it is racist if the victim/target decides it is. Where does this position sit with your views on booing, or is that opening another can of non-footy related worms.

Racism is fairly tangible and is a completely different thing.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

While I'm on board with booing (even though I rarely do it), the Goodes stuff did make me consider whether I want to be a shield for racists or not and make the call on boo-or-not case by case.

 

[raman]

While I'm on board with booing (even though I rarely do it), the Goodes stuff did make me consider whether I want to be a shield for racists or not and make the call on boo-or-not case by case.

Unfortunately racists successfully co-opted booing Goodes much like Nazis with the swastika and alt-right edgelords with Pepe.

 

[Boxx]

I generally only booo Doug Howard...

 

[Waspy79]

Racism is fairly tangible and is a completely different thing.

We were told during the Goodes saga that the booing is racist. I do not subscribe to booing being intangible nor do I believe that booing can be considered racist, however we were continually told that it is because the target believed it was. Not sure where I’m going with this to be honest.

 

[raman]

We were told during the Goodes saga that the booing is racist.

No, we were told during the Goodes saga that booing Goodes because he was an outspoken aboriginal man was racist.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

There should have been another game tonight.

 

[Kiss from a Rozee]

I think we can all agree that there is booing *shakes head* and booing *nods head*

 

[King_Tredrea]

We were told during the Goodes saga that the booing is racist. I do not subscribe to booing being intangible nor do I believe that booing can be considered racist, however we were continually told that it is because the target believed it was. Not sure where I’m going with this to be honest.

My view is that any baseline premise that booing is in any way “hate filled” is garbage. Racist comments however, clearly are. That’s the distinction to me.

 

[Waspy79]

No, we were told during the Goodes saga that booing Goodes because he was an outspoken aboriginal man was racist.

Thanks for clarifying your incorrect take on it, however the narrative was clearly that the booing was racist because Goodes felt it was. How can booing be anything other than booing, as King Tredrea correctly pointed out.

 

[Moo87]

To me booing well after the game was done, well after the umpires had left, and when a player who hadn't done anything controversial is speaking was pretty poor sportsmanship.

Yes, fans are allowed to, but there's a point where it just came across as a bunch of fans with less restraint than a tantruming toddler.

That and the umpiring was poor, but it wasn't excessively one-sided. Essendon were only within a goal at the end due a rubbish decision gifting them their last goal.

Any comparisons to the booing of Selwood last year are off the mark, as in Selwood's case it was clearly in response to two incidents he eventually got fined for ( I think from memory he was given a game by the MRP then contested).