2019 European Parliament Election - EUROPEAN PEOPLE'S PARTY WIN
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It's not a landslide. Such a good policy only 30% of people like it?
LOL..Brexit is not a policy, its a mandate through referendum given by the public, brexit is brexit and he wants no negotiations, so there is no need for policies, so 31.7% voted for a party with no policy and no manifesto. He has no policy cause he has announced none. He hasn't told us anything about WTO negotiations, he hasn't told us anything about immigration, he hasn't told us anything about healthcare, outside of bringing American style healthcare in. In other words, people voted for nothing.
Policy will be how to achieve Brexit and he is clear on how to achieve it...he says "no deal". That's his only policy. If there are no negotiations then there's no deal. If there is no deal the public deserves to know whats the go from here before voting for it. But people decided to put faith on Farage without knowing what he will cook up in WTO. In other words, this is a religious cult hence the popularity.
31.7% is not a landslide and by no means a win for "leave". The remain parties are not united on its policies but remain has more vote in this election than leave. Every single polling agency has confirmed this. Farage got all the UKIP votes plus the disgruntled Tory supporters votes, 31.7% is actually quite a disappointing result as his own radio station LBC had him at 37% last week.
Remain wins this easily, do your math, 40.6% hard remainers vs 34.7% hard Brexiters. Even if 25% of conservatives are remainers along 50% of labour (it's not 50 percent, its 70 percent according to yougov) remain still wins.
No matter what the Daily Fail says the Brexit Party got 28 seats and UKIP lost 24 and now have none. A total gain of 4 seats for Farage despite the Tories and Labour being at their most useless ever.
This is not a Brexit surge, it's just a rebranding of his same old bollocks.
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Just ignore him and get it done with, he posts in every single thread every minute. His posts about Brexit are downright stupid, not worth it. I clicked unblock for an hour and see nothing has changed. Apparently euroskeptic means leave EU.
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Never said that anywhere. Your reading comprehension is very poor, not surprising given your volume of writing.
But continue to have me "under ignore".
FFS posting memes won't change the reality, majority of Labour voters are remainers, Labour got * all votes from leave areas, do your math.
Every single poll from Yougov to private ones suggests the same. But no no this must be different cause Brexiters said so.
Every single poll from Yougov to private ones suggests the same. But no no this must be different cause Brexiters said so.
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Eh, you get nothing more from FK. It's stock standard of him to post memes or disinformation.
That's because Labour has already lost most of its leavers to either BXP (from UKIP) or not bothering to vote (see turnout in Leave areas at this election).
Labour becoming a party of remain won't win them back either, it'll just send the leavers who are still attached to the party seeking a new home.
This is correct, Farage's main gains came from the disgruntled Labour and Tory remainers, yougov and ComRes polls have it at 70/30 in favour of remain for this poll and 25/75 for conservatives. Funny how Farage has tried to deny the numbers saying these polls are rigged on LBC last night. Of course if it doesn't work for you, you cry conspiracy. Either way:
2014: UKIP + CON + DUP + UUP = 45 seats
2019: UKIP + BREXIT + CON + DUP + UUP = 34 seats
That's a loss of a quarter of the MEPs of the pro-Brexit parties.
Wow, completely unhinged now.
Noone is laughing at Nigel now. They are shitting themselves, now the decent and rational element of the population have voted for him in droves.
[/QUOTE]What kind of democracy are you thinking of where a minority can dictate policy against the majority?
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Says the one who wants to overturn the referendum result.
You really are shooting yourself repeatedly in the foot. Massive case of Brexit derangement syndrome.
What kind of democracy are you thinking of where a minority can dictate policy against the majority?
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Says the one who wants to overturn the referendum result.
You really are shooting yourself repeatedly in the foot. Massive case of Brexit derangement syndrome.[/QUOTE]
Where have i said i want to overturn the result..you really are losing it and continue making us BS. According to your man Nigel 52-48 is unfinished business, his words not mine. Good to see no mandate for Hard brexit though.
Only 31.6% votes for Nige' after all polls predicted 33% plus. What a disappointment. Must be fun picking up Labour and tory votes and still lose out to remain.
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The word is no one. Not noone. Get out of the country if you can't speak the language (Brexit voters)
How dare you tell a white anglo saxon that. It's their right to be there, everyone else is a migrant.
All of a sudden EU elections are a democratic vote. LOL! deliver democracy through the most undemocratic platform. Atleast they have come to their senses regarding one thing
Brexit party only received 5.1 million votes. And Brexiters are wanking over it. People are sick of this Brexit nonsense with no end in sight. This goes for everyone, remainers and leavers.
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Give up. They're still trying to impeach Trump over some Russian stuff he was innocent of over in that thread, obviously with Brexit they will keep demanding revotes until they get their way. They just ain't fans of democracy, these lefty rascals.
How cool, you quoting theguardian as a support to your argument, the moment i do it, guardian is fake news. Look i am not denying that Labour has been a disgrace. JC needs to resign right now.
Corbyn has been giving mixed-messages about Brexit since 2016 - from wanting Article 50 invoked the day after the Referendum to appearing to favour the possibility of maybe thinking about another Referendum.Is it all his fault - no. Is he largely responsible - yes! Still majority of the Labour voters remain "stay in the EU votes".
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what are you on about? it is Nigel Farage who said a narrow win is unfinished business but a comprehensive win for remainers means the matter is a settled, all this 1 week before the referendum.
Secondly, It's the Labour who can't make their mind up about a 2nd referendum despite stating they accept the results of Brexit. I have never said i want a 2nd referendum, UK being outside the EU and being in the EEA puts them in a substantially worse position.
Shows how important stopping immigration is if people are willing to put everything else on the back burner or even disregard it.
Farage just wants out then he doesn't care apparently. Will probably walk away once they're out.
100% this! he clearly said he doesnt care about the economic policies or the country outside of immigration. He went as far as saying that he would rather be poor with less immigration than be rich with more migration.
And brexit will not solve the migration issue. This is where people get it wrong. The desire to get to an English speaking nation for people from 3rd world will still drive them there. The NON EU migration has compensated for the falling EU migration in 18/19. Non EU migration is close to an all time high. Any deals with countries like India and China will need ease of visa access clause to it.
Official stats say:
Net migration from countries outside the EU was the highest since 2004, with the net addition of 261,000 migrants from the rest of the world, part of a steady increase in non-EU immigration over the past five years.
EU migrants also pay more taxes than Non-EU migrants and most EU migrants get to UK with a job offer and the cost to the government is also lower than Non-EU ones.
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Not sure the US is the best example to consider when advocating democracy given the penchant for (predominantly in GOP states) engaging in widespread voter suppression.
Being pro-honesty isn't anti-democracy, as much as the '350 million pounds per week' set would think.
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