The reality from sales is that there really were very few Holden fans, they were really Commodore fans. Similar is true of Ford fans vs Falcon specific fans.
Fair dinkum?
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The reality from sales is that there really were very few Holden fans, they were really Commodore fans. Similar is true of Ford fans vs Falcon specific fans.
It was t that long ago that they tried to bring Opel in as a stand alone brand.So, just to be clear, my post is about the death of Holden's manufacturing and not the brand overall, hence I also mention Ford and Toyota who are obviously still going.
In terms of Holden continuing as a rebadged Australian arm of Opel, I like the theory but at best they'd be able to continue as a small market player only. The Insignia is a nice enough car but it's segment is in long term regression. The Astra by all reports is a good car too (the previous model was a better looker though) but has proven to struggle for sales. The Corsa would have to come badged as a Barina and could possibly have moved in some okay numbers, like the last model Barina. SUVs have never been a strong suit for Holden and I don't see that the Crossland would change that, nor have Holden really been in the commercial game save for their utes. At best the vans would sell in the hundreds. There is just nothing that Opel have in their range that is outstanding to lure people away from the incumbents in significant numbers. And I think we overstate the value of name Holden in the community. The reality from sales is that there really were very few Holden fans, they were really Commodore fans. Similar is true of Ford fans vs Falcon specific fans.
Opel wasn't given the time to establish themselves. This is the story of the end of Opel in Australia which appeared on CarAdvice.It was t that long ago that they tried to bring Opel in as a stand alone brand.
It didn’t work then, can’t see it working now.
Not when you factor in Toranas, EH Holdens, Monaros, etc, etc..Commodore/Falcon fans instead of Ford/Holden fans?
That sounds accurate?
Astras arent bad cars, ugly as hell but nicely equipped
Sounds good.Anyone buying a Holden in the firesale? Thinking of getting an Astra, can be hard for as little as 14k apparently.
Sounds good.
But lucky to be worth 8K after you drive it off the forecourt.
Fair dinkum?
Not when you factor in Toranas, EH Holdens, Monaros, etc, etc..
Just an update on the Holden “10 years backup“ promise.Happy to keep it for 10 years at that price. Not worried about resale, that's more of a concern if you are buying an Acadia / Colorado.
Just an update on the Holden “10 years backup“ promise.
Apparently, it‘s really 5 years.
And if the company no longer exists in Australia?It's enshrined in law that spare parts & servicing must be provided for a minimum of 10 years so that's not really a worry.
And if the company no longer exists in Australia?
Can they chase GM in the US?
And if the company no longer exists in Australia?
Can they chase GM in the US?
AlbertM has this as his tag on every post on V8 Central
”Ford fans be proud. History of Australian motor racing shows Ford has been and will always be superior. They have to slow them down when they get serious about racing. The Phase 4 scared the **** out of people, they banned it. Sierra gets called on a technicality, Falcon EF "...had its wings clipped to make Holden part of the show", AU not allowed to show it's potential, Falcon BF gets clipped. Mustang Is so good Supercars made up a rule and gets a bag of cement in the roof, and it still wins.
_Mford”
Explains perfectly why plenty of Ford fans gave Supercars the flick many years ago. I even dropped off from about 2014 until 2018.
Nothing beats the venerable Gibson motorsport R32 GTR at Bathurst. Those things were beastly. Took 20 years for the dinosaur commodores to beat the GTR race record. 20 years in automotive time is sn eternity, I doubt theres a race record thats lasted that long anywhere in motorsport worldwide.