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[Deaneus!]

Official Government Information about COVID-19
Contact the National Coronavirus Information Hotline on 1800 020 080 for information about COVID-19.

Stay informed. Download the official government “Coronavirus Australia” app in the Apple App Store or Google Play,
or join our WhatsApp channel on iOS or Android.

If you live in the Adelaide metropolitan area and would like to get checked out, this is how get drive-thru testing at the Repat:




the Official Sources, Do You Have The Symptoms?, Tips and Statistics are below



Official Sources, Do you have Symptoms?, Tips, Statistics
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Spoiler

Environmental Cleaning & Disinfection Principles
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/def...-and-disinfection-principles-for-covid-19.pdf

SA Health:

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) :: SA Health

Australian Federal Govt:

Coronavirus (COVID-19) health alert

Find out how we are monitoring and responding to the COVID-19 pandemic, how you can help stop the spread of the virus in Australia and what to do if you have symptoms. We also report the latest case numbers, official medical advice and information on treatment.

www.health.gov.au

World Health Organisation:

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) – World Health Organization

Information on COVID-19, the infectious disease caused by the most recently discovered coronavirus.

www.who.int

Smart Traveller: (thanks Mutineer )

COVID-19

Read our advice on COVID-19, including leaving Australia, trying to get home, arriving in Australia and staying overseas.

www.smartraveller.gov.au

Do you have the symptoms?
(thanks again to Mutineer )



Tips​

Home Isolation Advice:

Home isolation advice for people with suspected or confirmed case of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) :: SA Health

What to do if you’re feeling unwell

If you are severely unwell, such as having difficulty breathing, call 000 (Triple Zero).

If you have travelled anywhere overseas in the past 14 days and have COVID-19 symptoms, seek testing at a COVID-19 clinic or contact your GP (advise your GP of your travel history) and isolate yourself.

If you have NOT travelled overseas recently, but are feeling unwell, visit your usual health care provider. Avoid contact with others if you are unwell.

Mental health in the age of coronavirus

COVID-19: Mental health in the age of coronavirus

Since January when the World Health Organization (WHO) determined the outbreak of the novel coronavirus disease, COVID-19, to be a “public health emergency of international concern”, stress levels everywhere have continued to mount.

news.un.org

Woolworths to introduce a dedicated shopping hour for the elderly and people with disability.

https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/...ate?icmpid=sm-hp-hero3:eek:ther:eek:ther:wk37

Keeping Yourself And Your Things Germ Free

California Governor Orders All Residents to Stay Home (Published 2020)

The Trump administration asked states to hold off on releasing grim data on unemployment claims, and Italy’s death toll surpassed China’s.

www.nytimes.com

Cleaning Your Phone

How to Clean Your Phone to Help Protect Against Coronavirus (Published 2020)

It’s one thing to stop touching your face. It’s another to stop touching the things that touch your face.

www.nytimes.com

Optus Mobile giving away data due to Covid-19

To play our part in supporting your access needs, we are giving all eligible mobile subscribers a one off 20GB of free extra data which can be activated within My Optus app anytime during the month of April and valid for 30 days from activation. For our eligible prepaid customers, we will also be offering 10GB of free extra data when you top up for more than $40 during the month of April.

We'll have more details about these extra data offers available soon at optus.com.au/COVID19-support.

Statistics​

Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)

ArcGIS Dashboards

ArcGIS Dashboards

www.arcgis.com

12,286,556 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

www.covidlive.com.au

Stay safe and look after each other (from a safe distance)
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Dear posters: unsubstantiated advice will be deleted. We understand you want to help, but #fakenews blah blah blah we're not allowing any disinformation. Got some great advice about washing your hands whilst dancing like David Byrne in Once In A Lifetime helps kill the virus? That's fantastic, provide a link to a reputable source.

 

[Deaneus!]

Escape Our Current Hell With These (Good) Coronavirus Jokes

They say laughter is the best medicine.

www.vulture.com

 

[GrommoT]

So ABC news reporting a yr8 student from Unley High caught the virus from an infected teacher. Student felt unwell last weekend and has since been in quarantine along with other students who have had close contact with that teacher.
School was closed for yesterday while intensive cleaning was carried out and to remain open.

If that yr8 student's health becomes critical, a rethink on schools remaining open would probably occur, I think.

 

[GrommoT]

Great Aussie humour

 

[GreyCrow]

Is this too simplistic?

For those of us with Super who lose our jobs or have significant cuts in income, we get to access our Super until this is over.

For those without sufficient Super and on government benefits they receive a government payment or top up.

Basically if we can’t go out, we all just need enough to pay bills, food, mortgages and rent.

Further to this, those on Newstart should NOT be required to look for X jobs per month. Put it on hold
1. Social distancing
2. Lack of jobs, unemployment glut coming

Ie a universal income

 

[GreyCrow]

So ABC news reporting a yr8 student from Unley High caught the virus from an infected teacher. Student felt unwell last weekend and has since been in quarantine along with other students who have had close contact with that teacher.
School was closed for yesterday while intensive cleaning was carried out and to remain open.

If that yr8 student's health becomes critical, a rethink on schools remaining open would probably occur, I think.

Like others I will say no school for all of April

 

[srv23]

So far South Australia are doing far better than the eastern states with our numbers. So who on earth would think its a great idea to allow a football team from Sydney (the Australian epicentre of covid 19) plus support staff to fly into Adelaide, stay at a hotel, eat at the restaurant, thereby coming into contact with hundreds of South Australians.

 

[flashcrow]

Just a couple of observations:
1/ Most of the Australian public have no idea what 1.5 metres is (or don't care).
2/ China = Liar, liar, pants on fire.

 

[The Karma Bus]

My son was in the same boat, he had a sore throat, dry cough and fatigue.

He went to the doctor because he was worried that if he had it that he might be at risk of spreading it to others. The doctor turned him away because he didn't meet the testing criteria and was told to go home, drink plenty of fluid and rest.

Chances are that it's just a flu or a virus, but there's also the chance that there's thousands of people out there with milder cases of COVID-19 who are unknowingly spreading it around because people presenting with symptoms aren't being tested.

The other issue is people are coming here (or coming back) from higher risk areas such as much of the East coast of Australia.. where community transmission has been going for a while - the infections are just recently starting to be seen.
Including business meetings in the past couple of weeks. Sport.
In other areas of the world, that has resulted in some bad infection events.

They are putting it into circulation here even if it isn't.
This thing is spread with ease and spread when you don't even have symptoms.

We know of a few people who have either gone interstate and returned and became sick or came from interstate, returned and became sick.
People here have then became sick. All with symptoms aligned more to this than the flu.
No testing for any of them due to the checklist for testing.

 

[The Karma Bus]

So ABC news reporting a yr8 student from Unley High caught the virus from an infected teacher. Student felt unwell last weekend and has since been in quarantine along with other students who have had close contact with that teacher.
School was closed for yesterday while intensive cleaning was carried out and to remain open.

If that yr8 student's health becomes critical, a rethink on schools remaining open would probably occur, I think.

The student also went to a number of shops and businesses last week while suffering symptoms.

 

[GrommoT]

Just a couple of observations:
1/ Most of the Australian public have no idea what 1.5 metres is (or don't care).
2/ China = Liar, liar, pants on fire.

I think the 1.5 metre rule is a slightly simplified and easier to follow rule to deal with the greater probability risk where virus is carried by droplets that fall to ground within 1.5 metres. But the risk of the virus remaining in the air for longer is also non-zero.

...
A study published in 2018 from researchers at Emory University and the Georgia Institute of Technology, with support from Boeing, said that although the 6-foot boundary accounts for 2 rows in front of, or behind, an infected passenger, the greatest area of risk may be even smaller — only a 1-row buffer. The researchers were considering respiratory diseases passed in “droplets,” or particles of water big enough to fall from a person’s mouth to the ground when they speak, sneeze or cough. Coronavirus is thought to be such an illness, passed primarily from person-to-person.
...
[ https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/03/07/coronavirus-planes-may-not-be-the-sick-factories-we-think/ ]

The study referred to:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214999616307421


The new coronavirus can live in the air for several hours and on some surfaces for as long as two to three days, tests by U.S. government and other scientists have found.
Their work, published Wednesday, suggests that the virus can spread through the air as well as from touching things that were contaminated by others who have it, in addition to direct person-to-person contact.
...
For this study, researchers used a nebulizer device to put samples of the new virus into the air, imitating what might happen if an infected person coughed or made the virus airborne some other way.
The found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.
...
[ https://time.com/5801278/coronavirus-stays-on-surfaces-days-tests/ ]


The US gov work referred to:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf

 

[John Who]

I think a lot of people on here are too caught up on the COVID19 testing. At the end of the day, it’s the safe distancing and the hygiene practices that will help deter the spread, not the tests themselves.

Also, we need to understand better what the test means: to have a better idea of the number of serious complications/deaths relative to the number of infected cases.

Also, a positive test, doesn’t mean much on its own. You need to monitor the symptoms and if they’re improving or worsening. For example, a positive test result with fever settling, is much better than a negative result but with fever increasing (and more respiratory distress).

On the flip side, a negative test, does not guarantee what will happen to you next week if you make contact with a new case. ie. you can still catch it in the future even if the test is negative today.

I’m happy to expand on any of the above if needed.

 

[mattymac]

Don't worry, local transmission has happened, they just haven't been testing for it yet. No surprise, that's what viruses do and we're no different to the rest of the world where it's happening.
Even Singapore is trending up now

View attachment 843095

Yeah too late. Local transmissions are go.

High school student one of eight new COVID-19 cases in South Australia

A year eight student at Adelaide's Unley High School has tested positive for COVID-19. The school said the student had been identified as a close contact of a staff member who tested positive for the virus last week.

mobile.abc.net.au

 

[Vader]

I think a lot of people on here are too caught up on the COVID19 testing. At the end of the day, it’s the safe distancing and the hygiene practices that will help deter the spread, not the tests themselves.

Also, we need to understand better what the test means: to have a better idea of the number of serious complications/deaths relative to the number of infected cases.

Also, a positive test, doesn’t mean much on its own. You need to monitor the symptoms and if they’re improving or worsening. For example, a positive test result with fever settling, is much better than a negative result but with fever increasing (and more respiratory distress).

On the flip side, a negative test, does not guarantee what will happen to you next week if you make contact with a new case. ie. you can still catch it in the future even if the test is negative today.

I’m happy to expand on any of the above if needed.

People who test positive are immediately taken out of circulation, and (hopefully) prevented from passing the disease onto any new victims. Someone who has the disease, but isn't tested, remains in circulation passing the disease to others.

Social distancing will help limit the ability of the undiagnosed carriers to pass the disease, but there are way too many exceptions for it to be fully effective.

If you don't test for cases of community transmission, then you will have more & more undiagnosed carriers, who aren't isolated and who are capable of passing the disease to others.

Social distancing alone will not stop this disease. It will, hopefully, slow it down. The only way to stop it is to completely isolate all infected people until they are no longer infectious. To do that, you need to test them to identify everyone who has the disease.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I think a lot of people on here are too caught up on the COVID19 testing. At the end of the day, it’s the safe distancing and the hygiene practices that will help deter the spread, not the tests themselves.

Also, we need to understand better what the test means: to have a better idea of the number of serious complications/deaths relative to the number of infected cases.

Also, a positive test, doesn’t mean much on its own. You need to monitor the symptoms and if they’re improving or worsening. For example, a positive test result with fever settling, is much better than a negative result but with fever increasing (and more respiratory distress).

On the flip side, a negative test, does not guarantee what will happen to you next week if you make contact with a new case. ie. you can still catch it in the future even if the test is negative today.

I’m happy to expand on any of the above if needed.

What's to be expanded on? None of the points are insightful, or remotely relevant, to the concerns that people are expressing.

The testing is critical to determine whether a person should be in isolation or not. Without that evidence, people cannot make the right decisions with any accuracy.

 

[Elite Crow]

So far South Australia are doing far better than the eastern states with our numbers. So who on earth would think its a great idea to allow a football team from Sydney (the Australian epicentre of covid 19) plus support staff to fly into Adelaide, stay at a hotel, eat at the restaurant, thereby coming into contact with hundreds of South Australians.

Do you know their flight, transport, accommodation and eating arrangements to comment?

How much contact do you think the players will be having with South Australians?

 

[The Karma Bus]

More than 2,000 passengers who disembarked from the Ruby Princess cruise ship in Sydney on Thursday are being urged to self-isolate immediately, after several people tested positive for COVID-19.
Oops.

Also we know how irresponsible many people can be with anything. Yet officials also think they can put reliance for managing this virus onto the public.
You need almost everyone doing the right things.
In NSW, officials were telling people off again for gathering in crowds etc. Lol.

 

[Jack is Back]

What people are forgetting is that we closed the borders to China, Iran and Italy a while ago.

I think the only country we could have banned earlier is the US.

Australia banned flights from China on 1 February.

Italy banned flights from China on 31 January.

Australia banned flights from Italy on 11 March

According to Statista there were more than 2 million Chinese students in Australia in 2019. Many were returning in January and February for the new school year. The Australian Government advice when they stopped flights from China was that travellers from China had to travel via a second country including a 14 day lay over before entering Australia. One estimate (from The Australian) said up to 2/3 rd of Chinese students couldn’t get back to Australia many thousands had returned after their 14 day stopover in late February and early March.

 

[flashcrow]

I think the 1.5 metre rule is a slightly simplified and easier to follow rule to deal with the greater probability risk where virus is carried by droplets that fall to ground within 1.5 metres. But the risk of the virus remaining in the air for longer is also non-zero.

...
A study published in 2018 from researchers at Emory University and the Georgia Institute of Technology, with support from Boeing, said that although the 6-foot boundary accounts for 2 rows in front of, or behind, an infected passenger, the greatest area of risk may be even smaller — only a 1-row buffer. The researchers were considering respiratory diseases passed in “droplets,” or particles of water big enough to fall from a person’s mouth to the ground when they speak, sneeze or cough. Coronavirus is thought to be such an illness, passed primarily from person-to-person.
...
[ https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/03/07/coronavirus-planes-may-not-be-the-sick-factories-we-think/ ]

The study referred to:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214999616307421


The new coronavirus can live in the air for several hours and on some surfaces for as long as two to three days, tests by U.S. government and other scientists have found.
Their work, published Wednesday, suggests that the virus can spread through the air as well as from touching things that were contaminated by others who have it, in addition to direct person-to-person contact.
...
For this study, researchers used a nebulizer device to put samples of the new virus into the air, imitating what might happen if an infected person coughed or made the virus airborne some other way.
The found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.
...
[ https://time.com/5801278/coronavirus-stays-on-surfaces-days-tests/ ]


The US gov work referred to:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf

I will still be keeping 1.5 metres away from people, no point in increasing the risk.

 

[GrommoT]

I will still be keeping 1.5 metres away from people, no point in increasing the risk.

Well yes, I didn't mean to imply that the rule is useless.

Just that it might be worth keeping in mind that the hazard is still there if there's no one in you immediate vicinity.

 

[cleanhands]

Australia banned flights from China on 1 February.

Italy banned flights from China on 31 January.

Australia banned flights from Italy on 11 March

According to Statista there were more than 2 million Chinese students in Australia in 2019. Many were returning in January and February for the new school year. The Australian Government advice when they stopped flights from China was that travellers from China had to travel via a second country including a 14 day lay over before entering Australia. One estimate (from The Australian) said up to 2/3 rd of Chinese students couldn’t get back to Australia many thousands had returned after their 14 day stopover in late February and early March.

Stepson flew form China to Adelaide direct 3 Feb

 

[Jack is Back]

It is unfair to highlight poor decisions made by politicians in January, absolutely no one expected things outside China would get out of control so quickly.

My beef is decisions made in the last 3-4 weeks. We could see what was unfolding elsewhere but continuing to put too much emphasis on the economic/political implications was criminal.

Remember this time last Friday our P.M. was encouraging people to join him at the footy.

Close the restaurants, close the pubs, stop non essential domestic flights and close the schools.

 

[GrommoT]

We have taken peak madness to another peak.

Cops handing out rolls. Glory be. Imagine how society will view us 100 years from now, like savages.

Or 10,000 years from now

[from twitter]

 

[Dewy006]

Do you know their flight, transport, accommodation and eating arrangements to comment?

How much contact do you think the players will be having with South Australians?

Why take the risk though, however minimal it may be? For what gain?

 

[mattymac]

What people are forgetting is that we closed the borders to China, Iran and Italy a while ago.

I think the only country we could have banned earlier is the US.

We stopped flights from some countries but continued to allow flights from third countries that allowed flights from the ones we blocked

 

[Betts are off]

I apologize if this has been posted already. But California and its 40 million residents have been ordered into lockdown.

L.A. County confirms 61 new coronavirus cases, says median age among all patients is 47

Gov. Gavin Newsom has ordered all Californians to stay home and asked Congress for $1 billion to support the state's fight against the coronavirus.

www.latimes.com

Key stats.
Currently California is at 958 cases with 40 million people

Whereas we are at 756 cases with 25 million people