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1. You listened personally to this call? What were the exact circumstances, & details? Any independent corroboration?I was listening to a telephone call made on February 4 to a funeral director in Wuhan who was complaining at the amount of bodies coming in. Keep in mind this funeral home we not one of the bigger ones.
They received 127 in one day. The funeral director said 8 had been listed as confirmed pneumonia on death certificates, 48 suspected cases of pneumonia, this is in one day, and not a large funeral home.
That day there was 65 reported deaths to Covid-19 in China. The next day 73.
She also said it started to spike unusually on 22nd of January. There were only 17 cases reported then worldwide.
Working in manufacturing and distribution I can tell you a lot of products would cost more, however textiles etc I found Vietnam to be better quality and the cost wasn't too dissimilar. Production time was the main barrier but if you forecast well that shouldn't be an issue. China will still be needed in the future but there are industries that could easily move away from them.
1. You listened personally to this call? What were the exact circumstances, & details? Any independent corroboration?
Or are you quoting from another source? If so a link?
2. https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...ver&utm_content=top-bar-latest&utm_term=third
AFAIK, Republican US Senator T. Cotton was the first politician in the world to suspect the extreme dangers & CCP coverup of covid-19, and requested mainland China travel bans- on Jan.22.
The Chinese Communist Party was then lying & claiming publicly to the outside world there was no evidence of human-to-human covid-19 infections. The CCP "placated"/deceived all the world's medical experts etc., including the US Chief Medical Officer, Dr A. Fauci.
"On January 22, one day before the Chinese govt. began a quarantine of Wuhan to contain the spread of the virus, the Arkensas Senator sent a letter to the Secretary Of Health & Human Services A. Azar encouraging the Trump Administration to consider banning travel between China & the US, & warning that the communist regime would be covering up how dangerous the disease really was. When the first Classified Briefing on the virus was held in the Senate on Jan. 24, only 14 Senators turned up".
On Jan. 31, the US introduced the (first?) travel ban on mainland China, & some other foreign countries- but the US covid-19 testing remained completely inadequate/irresponsible for at least another 4 weeks.
Did more then that:
Then they had the nerve to say the world "missed the 1st window to stop the spread."
EtcWhile the cause of the pneumonia seems to be a novel coronavirus, transmission potential and modes of transmission remain unclear. Therefore, it would be prudent to reduce the general risk of acute respiratory infections while travelling in or from affected areas (currently Wuhan City) by:
avoiding close contact with people suffering from acute respiratory infections;
frequent hand-washing, especially after direct contact with ill people or their environment;
As provided by the International Health Regulations (2005) (IHR), countries should ensure that:
routine measures, trained staff, appropriate space and stockpile of adequate equipment in place at points of entry for assessing and managing ill travellers detected before travel, on board conveyances (such as planes and ships) and on arrival at points of entry;
More Lies From The Chinese Communist Party.
Wuhan residents believe the genuine no. of covid-19 deaths in Wuhan is c.40,000.
Wuhan Residents Dismiss Official Coronavirus Death Toll: ‘The Incinerators Have Been Working Around the Clock’ | National Review
Wuhan residents are increasingly skeptical of the official coronavirus death count of 2,500, with most people believing the actual number is at least 40,000.www.nationalreview.com
They maybe correct, however without consistency in reporting between countries it’s very difficult to draw any conclusions on the mortality rates of the virus strains
If that number is true, and current death rate is accurate then that infers that there are over 800,000 cases in wuhan alone.More Lies From The Chinese Communist Party.
"Wuhan residents are increasingly sceptical of the CCP's...coronavirus death count of 2500 in the city, with most believing the actual number is at least 40,000".
"The incinerators have ben working around the clock, so howcan so few people have died".
Wuhan Residents Dismiss Official Coronavirus Death Toll: ‘The Incinerators Have Been Working Around the Clock’ | National Review
Wuhan residents are increasingly skeptical of the official coronavirus death count of 2,500, with most people believing the actual number is at least 40,000.www.nationalreview.com
You can argue that China covered it up, or they didn't provide the correct information. Whatever. But The WHO provided appropriate warnings based on the evidence they had at the time.
Spain and Italy have similar per-capita results for active cases and deaths. They have recorded 9-11% morbidity. This is similar to the small sample of Italy , San Marino. This could be close to the actual morbidity for those with Corona virus , exhibiting strong symptoms, with limited intensive care.
Belgium, Netherlands, and France have similar deaths per capit , but Belgium and particularly Switzerland have higher infection percentage.
Belgium doing the most testing per capita by far .
The morbidity in these countries varies from 6%( Belgium ) to 8%.
Due to the testing , it is likely that France and Netherlands have many more undiagnosed cases , and that the morbidity is similar to Belgiums 6% ( evidenced by the similar deaths per capita ).
Its hard with the lower numbers.
Australia may have been relatively successful at keeping it out of nursing homes and the like ( some of our deaths were in fact due to spreading it into a nursing home ).
Germany's 1% could be closer to that which includes a lot more mild cases , and does not have an overrun hospital system.
https://www.traveller.com.au/austra...-state-because-we-behave-like-children-h1n15p
pretty good summation as to why the whole nanny state whining is total crap even outside of crisis times like these
If you can get behind the paywall, this article indicates that the economic ramifications from pandemics (dating back to the 13th century) can linger for 40 years.
Which begs the question, is the cure more toxic than the virus?
Yes. We have already had more lives and families destroyed by the economic shutdown than will die from the virus in Australia. That's after 1 week. Over the next 10 years the toll will be unfathomable
Yes we should have done nothing like America who are predicting 140k deaths as the best case....
I would be amazed if they weren't.
About the level of you responses here.
Dispute it with facts, not gifs.
It depends how long the shut down goes for, but if you scale 140k deaths to Australia that’s 10,000 deaths (Just saying)
In human history we have never been able to contain a highly infectious novel coronavirus before (MERS and SARS we’re both more lethal but less contagious)
A complete shut down of the economy will have huge long term ramifications to the countries well being and prosperity.
I hope it’s worth it
They should chuck their face on the front of the sun with a massive fine to follow.some people really are just s**t birds...
21st birthday party guests infected with COVID-19 after case linked to Aspen ski trip
A Melbourne woman who tested positive to COVID-19 after returning from a ski holiday in the US attended a 21st birthday party where at least six people have been struck down with the virus.www.theage.com.au
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Because there is no government managing China's government?Well that blokes as good as dead.
2 doctors MIA and 1 dead for outing the government... How does china get away with this
thats what all laws are for. if people arent going to drive sensibly then speeds get lowered and there are more speed cameras. instead of complaining that speed cameras are for revenue raising (an argument only makde by people with an IQ of 4), people should instead drive safer without needing to be told.I still think we have the propensity to lower the speed limit to a stupidly low level, when most of the cars were driving correctly in the first place.
We punish the sensible , to stop the dickheads.
I was looking for this post, but someone has just deleted it. Luckily it was quoted by others.Go check my posts. Bring them up if you can. See how many are wrong or right.
Roby said:
You're hysterical, ease down.
Think about you're saying. You're talking about suicide. I work with suicide prevention so please stop clumping things erroneously.
You have one in a million chance of dying in a car accident when you get in the car. I've also had to see people die in a car accident when I was in one at age 10. If you get Covid-19 you're a one in thirty chance of dying and at best one in a 1000 IF your hospitals are not overrun, you are not obese, have no other comorbodities or infections.[\QUOTE]
Thats simply not true and is not supported by any evidence
From what I’ve been told the virus is many times more extensive in the community than what we know or believe. The case-rates in many instances reflect the worst of the reflections.
In terms of public health planning, that is alarming! One of the worries that the authorities have is the role of recreational drug use in damaging young people’s immunity.
That’s why the cases that have been imported from Iran, Italy and especially the USA have many times higher than what authorities expected
This is how to deal with an outbreak in hospitals. Hopefully this is the way forward.