List Mgmt. 2020 Trade and List Management Thread III

[shinboner magic]

Looks like we may ratted out St Kilda and Adelaide about that side deal to get them pick 2.

**** the crows - they bidded on TT as well

 

[The Nostradamus]

So Higgins and 28 for pick 20 and 38

that seems about right
Essentially upgrading our pick 28 8 spots and getting a pick later on also

 

[Psicosis]

“Going into 2020 we had the most 26-plus players in the competition and we finished 17th on the ladder, so clearly we needed to make change. We needed to change the list demographic. Going into 2021, we’ll probably have the most 22 and unders in the comp, which is exciting.”

“No, he said that in 2016, and that’s when the rebuild was supposed to start, but the rebuild wasn’t a rebuild”

“What you do with the senior coach and football manager and list manager is you put your faith in them to do their job. The list management during that time wasn’t very good.”

 

[Joycey]

I doubt any more than one of these players last until pick 6.

I also reckon the telephones will start ringing hot after Adelaide make the first pick.

I have:

1. Ugle-Hagan (matched Dogs)
2. Hollands (Crows)
3. McDonald (Essendon)
4. Campbell (Swans)
5. Thilthorpe (Hawks)
6. Bruhn (GC)
7. Phillips (North)
8. Grainger-Barras (North)

I may have engineered my own outcome but I can't be too sure.

 

[The Nostradamus]

I have:

1. Ugle-Hagan (matched Dogs)
2. Hollands (Crows)
3. McDonald (Essendon)
4. Campbell (Swans)
5. Thilthorpe (Hawks)
6. Bruhn (GC)
7. Phillips (North)
8. Grainger-Barras (North)

I may have engineered my own outcome but I can't be too sure.

Yeah no chance Bruhn gets selected before Phillips

 

[Samsquanch]

he was up in the NT barra fishing the last time his negotiations were being done prolly not great phone reception for his manager to get back to him, they never really got finalised til he got back. good chance the same thing is happening now.

Telstra is ok but only the full network.

 

[Joycey]

Yeah no chance Bruhn gets selected before Phillips

 

[NewNorth]

“Going into 2020 we had the most 26-plus players in the competition and we finished 17th on the ladder, so clearly we needed to make change. We needed to change the list demographic. Going into 2021, we’ll probably have the most 22 and unders in the comp, which is exciting.”

“No, he said that in 2016, and that’s when the rebuild was supposed to start, but the rebuild wasn’t a rebuild”

“What you do with the senior coach and football manager and list manager is you put your faith in them to do their job. The list management during that time wasn’t very good.”

these quotes sum up why we are where we are - and I don't think anyone can dispute these statements

 

[Pykie]

If the scum land pick 8 in a Saad trade then we hold them over the fire for 6,7,8 for 2,11,28.

This could at least land us Phillips/Tilthorpe + Cox/Reid and another midifielder (Bruhn?)

Scratch the 28 and that deal would be fine.

2 & 11 for 6,7,8.

 

[the big lebowski]

I have:

1. Ugle-Hagan (matched Dogs)
2. Hollands (Crows)
3. McDonald (Essendon)
4. Campbell (Swans)
5. Thilthorpe (Hawks)
6. Bruhn (GC)
7. Phillips (North)
8. Grainger-Barras (North)

I may have engineered my own outcome but I can't be too sure.

There’s a fair bit wrong with that imo.

1: Sydney will get Campbell and their pick 4.

2: DGB will go ahead of Thilthorpe

3: Bruhn isn’t going that high. He’ll be the other side of 10.

 

[shinboner magic]

There’s a fair bit wrong with that imo.

1: Sydney will get Campbell and their pick 4.

2: DGB will go ahead of Thilthorpe

3: Bruhn isn’t going that high. He’ll be the other side of 10.

Yep DGB will go to swans or hawks
Phillips will get picked up by GC to join Rowell/ Anderson - will be another layer of keeping them up there.
Any trade with * has to include their 21 1st

 

[El Triggso]

Sounds like adelaide may get the deal done, come draft night they'll make a call saying we'll bid unless you trade us.

A side deal to not bid is worth hundreds of points alone...

 

[the big lebowski]

Yep DGB will go to swans or hawks
Phillips will get picked up by GC to join Rowell/ Anderson - will be another layer of keeping them up there.
Any trade with * has to include their 21 1st

100% agree. Outside the top 5 and 2 academy kids, players could go anywhere. There’s not much diff between 6 and 12 this year.

 

[otr2020]

We will not be splitting pick 2 if Logan McDonald is available ..only chance of pick 2 being traded is if on draft night Adelaide take McDonald ..it will not be available for trade untill draft night

 

[La Flama Blanca]

A side deal to not bid is worth hundreds of points alone...

Surely this is draft tampering.

 

[King Hansen]

There’s a fair bit wrong with that imo.

1: Sydney will get Campbell and their pick 4.

2: DGB will go ahead of Thilthorpe

3: Bruhn isn’t going that high. He’ll be the other side of 10.

1: Sydney will get Campbell and their pick 4. - Correct

2: DGB will go ahead of Thilthorpe - You don't know that.

3: Bruhn isn’t going that high. He’ll be the other side of 10. - You don't know that.

 

[El Triggso]

Surely this is draft tampering.

“We rated McDonald higher, and just couldn’t take the risk that they wouldn’t match”

Prove otherwise, integrity officer...

 

[ROORAGE]

Forgive me if i've oversimplified it, but isn't McDonald a lock? A 'Generational Talent' KPP? huge wraps - but madness if he is overloooked at 2.

 

[Mordecai]

Scratch the 28 and that deal would be fine.

2 & 11 for 6,7,8.

Has this or a variation of this trade been rumoured or is it pie in the sky?

 

[Mr north man]

- Brown for pick 26 + future 2nd
- Higgins + future 3rd for pick for pick 20 (geelong)
- Pick 26 + pick 28 for pick 14 (bulldogs)
- Jed Anderson

17

Jed Anderson

Age

32

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

+ pick 63 for pick 18 + Witherden (Brisbane)
- 2 x future seconds for Stephenson + Treloar (take full salary)

**Collingwood could then trade their future first to someone for 2 future seconds. Next year they'd then 4 seconds to cover nick daicos plus draft.

Final picks: 2, 11, 14, 18, 20, 71, 81 + Stephenson, Treloar, Witherden

An ideal situation but your forgetting something Collingwood would want picks 2,11,14,18 for Stephenson and Treloar as according to them every player at Collingwood is regarded as a 1st round pick.
Plus I wouldn’t put it pass them to off load Levi Greenwood

19

Levi Greenwood

Age

37

Ht

181cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

2.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

Back to us as well for our 2021 -1st rounders.

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

**** all happening today.

 

[Del191229]

Looks like we may ratted out St Kilda and Adelaide about that side deal to get them pick 2.

What do you base that on?

 

[leighlee13]

He’s 33 mate - better than I expected.

True he is 33 but he has at least 2 -3 years left. If you are crap, you aren't playing anymore (Boomer obviously an exception to this).

 

[Joycey]

1: Sydney will get Campbell and their pick 4. - Correct

2: DGB will go ahead of Thilthorpe - You don't know that.

3: Bruhn isn’t going that high. He’ll be the other side of 10. - You don't know that.

Exactly. A lot of definitive statements in here based on little other than opinion. This year of all years could be a real surprise packet given the lack of info to go on.

 

[The Nostradamus]

I’d like to see us pillage some suns mids on the cheap

Overflowing with young talent and their list size is ridiculous