2020 Trade & List Management discussion

[1970crow]

Played fine in R1, then never seen again.

Handled very poorly IMO

How about the 1 debut and dropped in the regulation Cattery thrashing last year as well. If you've earned a debut, you've earned a 3 game stretch in my view.

 

[Mego Red]

Played fine in R1, then never seen again.

Handled very poorly IMO

Maybe.

Never shown THAT much. Got an extension after one reasonable game, and that was clearly an error at our end.

There's probably a good reason why he didn't get a game after we came back from COVID.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I think Ben Davis

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Ben Davis

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.5

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.5

4star

MG

169.0

3star

will get the chop too

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May as well keep him on the list as we all be paying for him any way.

 

[Mutineer]

Not sure it matters.

We made a mistake in extending him. We don't need to make a second mistake in keeping him around.

So you think we should pay out his contract and piss him off I take it?

He's one player similar to Gallucci that has shown real signs he could be a decent AFL footballer. Lacks nothing talent wise just lacks consistency in his game.
Pretty obvious the list management think there's an AFL player in there if he can find consistency in his game.

The fact he's contracted has likely saved him at this point but we've put a fair bit of investment in him up to now so 1 more season isn't going to break the bank.

 

[FR0GGY]

not according to my iPad.

Must be your slow internet, you definitely quoted shorty.

 

[Cap]

So you think we should pay out his contract and piss him off I take it?

He's one player similar to Gallucci that has shown real signs he could be a decent AFL footballer. Lacks nothing talent wise just lacks consistency in his game.
Pretty obvious the list management think there's an AFL player in there if he can find consistency in his game.

The fact he's contracted has likely saved him at this point but we've put a fair bit of investment in him up to now so 1 more season isn't going to break the bank.

Drafted in '16, that's a long time to not even show anything at AFL level.

This will be a Lazarus story if he plays more than 2 or 3 games

 

[1970crow]

Must be your slow internet, you definitely quoted shorty.

Yeh, reviewed that. Wonder if I read a post but hit the wrong reply button. If I get bored enough I'll go back and see exactly what went on.

 

[Mutineer]

Drafted in '16, that's a long time to not even show anything at AFL level.

This will be a Lazarus story if he plays more than 2 or 3 games

Cam Ellis-Yolmen

 

[Cap]

Cam Ellis-Yolmen

Good example. Be interesting how he plays out at Brisbane

 

[Red mist]

And the saddest sack of all finally arrives.

Cmon give everyone a go. It’s got some tainted chalice meaning or derision no matter how it plays out.
You gotta be a fence sitter to whip through 3 million posts on your board.

 

[Interloperer]

There's probably a good reason why he didn't get a game after we came back from COVID.

Davis has barely shown anything, but that's an extremely bold assumption given how 2020 went

 

[Red mist]

Lacks nothing talent wise just lacks consistency in his game.

A double lack. Does two negatives make a positive?
Some players you just gotta hold to see out the contract.
I don’t think his ceiling marrying up with the rigours of the game hence you’re consistency slant.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

And the saddest sack of all finally arrives.

It's admirable to stay chipper in the face of our worst season in history and subsequent equal-quality list management but if you're happy now that means you're never unhappy.

So essentially premierships, wooden spoons, wins, losses... they're meaningless to you.

It's Saul Goodman.

 

[Red mist]

It's admirable to stay chipper in the face of our worst season in history and subsequent equal-quality list management but if you're happy now that means you're never unhappy.

So essentially premierships, wooden spoons, wins, losses... they're meaningless to you.

It's Saul Goodman.

Kinda loaded and then you’re take.
Fair enough.
I guess it creates more robust discussion.
At what end of tether do you want people to be? All ends seems logical.

 

[hey shorty]

It's admirable to stay chipper in the face of our worst season in history and subsequent equal-quality list management but if you're happy now that means you're never unhappy.

So essentially premierships, wooden spoons, wins, losses... they're meaningless to you.

It's Saul Goodman.

Not at all, but I'm able to see positives in what we do, I mean you're more than welcome to stay wallowing in negativity but I choose not to.

But yeah I loved finishing bottom and coming within 3 weeks of being the worst side in nearly 60 years, and I also loved losing our best midfielder for a joke of a pick.....

C'mon mate, you've gotta try harder than that.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Not at all, but I'm able to see positives in what we do, I mean you're more than welcome to stay wallowing in negativity but I choose not to.

But yeah I loved finishing bottom and coming within 3 weeks of being the worst side in nearly 60 years, and I also loved losing our best midfielder for a joke of a pick.....

Oh? But I thought people like this were sad sacks?

 

[hey shorty]

Oh? But I thought people like this were sad sacks?

A number of positives to come.out.of the season, people here, such as yourself tend to lean far too much to the negative.

 

[Red mist]

A number of positives to come.out.of the season, people here, such as yourself tend to lean far too much to the negative.

Omg he got you there.

 

[Concussion test]

For all those who like to exaggerate our list management and trade teams shortcomings!

 

[Sanders]

For all those who like to exaggerate our list management and trade teams shortcomings!

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not sure how this whatabboutery exonerates us?

 

[Red mist]

not sure how this whatabboutery exonerates us?

It exonerates that guy. Give him a hug.

 

[Sanders]

It exonerates that guy. Give him a hug.

boring

 

[1970crow]

It's admirable to stay chipper in the face of our worst season in history and subsequent equal-quality list management but if you're happy now that means you're never unhappy.

So essentially premierships, wooden spoons, wins, losses... they're meaningless to you.

It's Saul Goodman.

HS is a lot like Sloane, "enjoying his footy more than ever this year". Does defend him a lot too, maybe he is Sloane. Wonder if he also thinks Chapman is the protector and godfather of the AFC? That'd be a dead giveaway.

 

[Mego Red]

May as well keep him on the list as we all be paying for him any way.

If we're paying him no matter what, we may as well cut him and make the list spot available for someone who might have a future at the club.

Paying him is one mistake. Having him take a list spot is another.

 

[Mego Red]

So you think we should pay out his contract and piss him off I take it?

He's one player similar to Gallucci that has shown real signs he could be a decent AFL footballer. Lacks nothing talent wise just lacks consistency in his game.
Pretty obvious the list management think there's an AFL player in there if he can find consistency in his game.

The fact he's contracted has likely saved him at this point but we've put a fair bit of investment in him up to now so 1 more season isn't going to break the bank.

That's a sunk cost fallacy.

The decision to keep him now shouldn't be affected by an earlier mistake to overpay him. That decision has been made and gone.