Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 4

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This thread is Continued in Part 5:

Vic - How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 5

Continued From Part 4: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/how-would-you-rate-daniel-andrews-performance-as-victorian-premier-part-4.1257360/

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[Maddo11]

Can I just say, great work Victorians. All confirmed cases found doing the right thing and isolating.

Great stuff.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Having a peak at the SA hotspot site. Their tier 1 is slightly different (although with common sense we are hopefully doing this anyway). Get tested...quarantine for 14 days with your family. Tier 2 Get tested and quarantine for 14 days. Tier 3 get tested and quarantine until first negative...so on.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Having a peak at the SA hotspot site. Their tier 1 is slightly different (although with common sense we are hopefully doing this anyway). Get tested...quarantine for 14 days with your family. Tier 2 Get tested and quarantine for 14 days. Tier 3 get tested and quarantine until first negative...so on.

pretty sure vic and nsw require everyone a tier 1 is living with to isolate with them

 

[Maggie5]

Doesn’t exactly sound like strong lockdown adherence there, Eddie.

Just another Covidiot.

 

[andrewmillman]

pretty sure vic and nsw require everyone a tier 1 is living with to isolate with them

Can confirm that is true, im currently doing that :/

 

[Crankyhawk]

It was always allowed. The advice was for under 50's to speak with your GP.

Try paying attention.

That part of the advice was never as prominent as “if under 60 wait for Pfizer “. It’s a clusterfork of messaging

 

[Crankyhawk]

prevention? what do you consider prevention given youre let it rip stance?

My read is that he thinks (now) that all parts of Australia (not just hot spots) should be pushing AZ and when available the Pfizer to avoid high consequences of inevitable disease outbreaks. We do need to keep watching what is happening in the UK (will they have a rise in death)

 

[Ned_Flanders]

My read is that he thinks (now) that all parts of Australia (not just hot spots) should be pushing AZ and when available the Pfizer to avoid high consequences of inevitable disease outbreaks. We do need to keep watching what is happening in the UK (will they have a rise in death)

my point on AZ is its easier said than done. Its been demonized by our poli's and conservative media, and people are shocked that punters are not lining up for this now.

if AZ is to be the answer, we need a brand new strategy on how to rebuild consumer confidence in it.

and mandating it is not the answer. We have already seen, if given a choice of AZ or nothing, people are choosing nothing

 

[Crankyhawk]

pretty sure vic and nsw require everyone a tier 1 is living with to isolate with them

You (as a household member of tier 1) can move out and be not considered household if
- the tier 1 person is still negative on test
- you test negative
I have work colleagues who have done this.

 

[andrewmillman]

You (as a household member of tier 1) can move out and be not considered household if
- the tier 1 person is still negative on test
- you test negative
I have work colleagues who have done this.

Thats not what they told me! Or is that as your mates are in healthcare.

 

[Magnum27]

prevention? what do you consider prevention given youre let it rip stance?

When have i ever said let it rip, show me those posts.

You whine if people miss quote you, lets see if you have the nuts to re tract.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

When have i ever said let it rip, show me those posts.

You whine if people miss quote you, lets see if you have the nuts to re tract.

you have complained constantly that everything needs to open up, and that restrictions are not sustainable. That is a let it rip strategy (not by design but by consequence)

 

[Magnum27]

Do you think pushing a police officer is considered assault?

What if you pushed the officer with a closed fist?

I never said he should be charged, try to keep up, he should be charge for being a moron and breaking the lock down rules, although if he was in Vic we both know he wouldn't be charged, he didn't punch the horse though like the media are saying.

 

[Magnum27]

you have complained constantly that everything needs to open up, and that restrictions are not sustainable. That is a let it rip strategy (not by design but by consequence)

Show me, where i have said open up ? or are you full of s**t.

Never once have i said their should not be restrictions, just needed to be done better and relative.

 

[eddiesmith]

this would be more annoying if you had any credibility. Luckily, no one believes a thing you say.

Well of course being the good little sheep you are, you’re probably locked in your house for 2 weeks so what would you know?

 

[eddiesmith]

Doesn’t exactly sound like strong lockdown adherence there, Eddie.

I’ll follow rules that make sense, locking down areas with zero cases ever doesn’t…

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Show me, where i have said open up ? or are you full of sh*t.

Never once have i said their should not be restrictions, just needed to be done better and relative.

and thats the point - LGA lockdowns, removal of mask mandates, opening of retail etc doesnt achieve reductions in cases. at best it plateaus them or slows the rate of increase (as we saw in both nsw and vic).

the ultimate outcome is exactly what is happening in nsw now, people saying "oh well, too hard, lets give up and live with the virus"

the end result is let it rip because thats where it leads

 

[Maddo11]

Again, night and day difference between Dan and Gladbags

 

[andrewmillman]

Again, night and day difference between Dan and Gladbags

One had 6 months of cumulative lockdown and one hasn't?

 

[tandino]

my point on AZ is its easier said than done. Its been demonized by our poli's and conservative media, and people are shocked that punters are not lining up for this now.

It's been demonised by all media, and everyone else.

Have you been on Twitter?

 

[Dave]

I’ll follow rules that make sense, locking down areas with zero cases ever doesn’t…

Melbourne has zero cases eh. lol.

 

[swingdog]

One had 6 months of cumulative lockdown and one hasn't?

One learns from their mistakes and they other doesn't?

 

[FRUMPY]

One had 6 months of cumulative lockdown and one hasn't?

Yet

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[QuietB]

my point on AZ is its easier said than done. Its been demonized by our poli's and conservative media, and people are shocked that punters are not lining up for this now.

if AZ is to be the answer, we need a brand new strategy on how to rebuild consumer confidence in it.

and mandating it is not the answer. We have already seen, if given a choice of AZ or nothing, people are choosing nothing

We have just had massive anti lockdown and anti vax marches all over the eastern seaboard.

Federal Government members attended and supported the protests.

And entirely predictably each/way Scotty is nowhere to be seen.

This is a s**t show for the ages. The vacuum of leadership is outright embarrassing.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

Yet

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nah he'll be safe there, NSW will give up. They'll be locked out but not locked down.