List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[FootyMaster11]

What's our "second oldest" list in the comp look like age wise with McKernan, Frawley and Carlisle leaving?

Crazy when you think that these players are the oldest on our list. And all are not likely or questionable as to whether they will be on the team in the next 1/2 years.

Ryder- 33
Geary- 32
Frawley- 32
Mckernan- 30
Hannebery- 30
Roberton- 29
Carlisle- 29
Hunter- 28
Ross- 27
Webster?- 27
Wood- 27
Kent- 27

That would leave Hill and Crouch as the oldest players both being 27 currently and 29 in 2 years time, when these players are gone. Would arguably make us one of the youngest lists in the competition.

 

[hangdog]

Has played some good footy at the Swans as a forward.

Not sold he'd offer too much in the ruck though. Probably more of a chop out rather than the partnership we currently see.

Which is why I'd prefer Briggs. Genuine ruck with versatility forward and back

 

[RWB4life]

Has played some good footy at the Swans as a forward.

Not sold he'd offer too much in the ruck though. Probably more of a chop out rather than the partnership we currently see.

He's been learning from Naismith and Hickey give him a year playing forward and learning from Marshall and Ryder and he'll improve his ruck work.

When Ryder's been out this year hunters come in as the main ruck. Next year when Ryder doesn't play McLean comes in as a forward and chop out. Him being a better forward than ruck is better for us anyway.

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[LuckyBounce!]

And Roberton

I did think that. A few might be a bit surprised next year when their bullshit is exposed

 

[Ducky Tie]

Has played some good footy at the Swans as a forward.

Not sold he'd offer too much in the ruck though. Probably more of a chop out rather than the partnership we currently see.

Agreed. If we do get him, I think it's an indication of a post Ryder plan for Marshall to be the main ruck with McLean the chop out. I also think it would be an indication that Bing isn't in the short term plans.

 

[BrutThough]

He's been learning from Naismith and Hickey give him a year playing forward and learning from Marshall and Ryder and he'll improve his ruck work.

When Ryder's been out this year hunters come in as the main ruck. Next year when Ryder doesn't play McLean comes in as a forward and chop out. Him being a better forward than ruck is better for us anyway.

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If we got McLean, he would be more a replacement for McKernan on the list and we would likely need to keep Hunter as a pure ruck back-up unless we tried someone else from the state league.

 

[sunny3193]

The article on Dunstan on the AFL site reads as if he didn’t get any bites and is likely going to Gold Coast as a DFA or rookie.
Also, he was not going to be offered a new deal from us immediately.
Seems he is a not high in demand player.
By us, nor anyone else.

 

[pebblesofsand]

If we got McLean, he would be more a replacement for McKernan on the list and we would likely need to keep Hunter as a pure ruck back-up unless we tried someone else from the state league.

McLean or Chol?

Probably about the same cost wise, benefit with Chol is that it may not cost us a draft pick.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...ayerStatus2=A&tid2=17&pid2=6612&fid2=S&type=A

 

[70s sainter]

Wtf ? So in the space of one afternoon we’ve gone from “with the 3rd round pick from Dunstan” or “ we ll upgrade pick 40 from Dunstan “ to “ we were never gonna get anything because no one will offer him anything other than not much for 1-2 years “
It’s like when we miss out on a gun it’s “ he’ll make all the difference “ to “ his disposal is pretty average “

 

[George]

Vacated 3 spots already. Think we will have a pretty decent clean out this year. If we can't get deals for fringe players we can just keep them for good depth.

These others should be no brainers and once they are out it should be enough space to fill the list with replacements anyway.

38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
41. Paul Hunter - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link

 

[pebblesofsand]

The article on Dunstan on the AFL site reads as if he didn’t get any bites .......
Also, he was not going to be offered a new deal from us immediately.
Seems he is a not high in demand player.
By us, nor anyone else.

That indicates to me that we've said have a look and then get back us. Still a bit to play out yet.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Yes, it makes me laugh thinking about Ryan Griffen and Deledio and any other players that left their dud team only to watch their dud team win a flag.

Grffen could have been a premiership captain lol.

Buckley! X3

 

[AFLOnline]

any chance one of you good campaigners can give me a tl;dr summary of the last few days of the last thread?

I see Dunstan is gone but that’s all I really know tbh… btw makes no sense why we would delist and not see if we could get a 3rd round pick out of him (if not better), especially considering he boosted his value with some pretty decent form this season?

 

[EconomicDecline]

Vacated 3 spots already. Think we will have a pretty decent clean out this year. If we can't get deals for fringe players we can just keep them for good depth.

These others should be no brainers and once they are out it should be enough space to fill the list with replacements anyway.

38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
41. Paul Hunter - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link

Vacated 3 spots already. Think we will have a pretty decent clean out this year. If we can't get deals for fringe players we can just keep them for good depth.

These others should be no brainers and once they are out it should be enough space to fill the list with replacements anyway.

38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
41. Paul Hunter - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link

would rather keep Clav and ship on Lonie.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

“Farcical scenes at St Kilda’s RSEA Park this afternoon when the list management team accidentally delisted Jack Steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

. He’s now an unrestricted free agent and can join any side” - Damian Barrett.

 

[hangdog]

How the hell does Atkins get 4 years at the Suns but Dunstan can't get a gig anywhere on their primary list?!

 

[L_W_P]

I rekon we have delisted Dunstan because we have an agreement with another FA so we know we won't be getting any compo.

Talia seems the most likely on list requirements.

 

[George]

You guys are on a mad one, how's this got 350 replies in a day

 

[RWB4life]

I rekon we have delisted Dunstan because we have an agreement with another FA so we know we won't be getting any compo.

Talia seems the most likely on list requirements.

He can also be a DFA they're not offering him a contract.

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[Minga]

You guys are on a mad one, how's this got 350 replies in a day

Keep it going, I’m fecking bored in this lockdown.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

“Farcical scenes at St Kilda’s RSEA Park this afternoon when the list management team accidentally delisted Jack Steele. He’s now an unrestricted free agent and can join any side” - Damian Barrett.

In further embarrassing news for the bayside club, it appears the Saints accidentally demisted star ruckman Rowan Marshall today.

 

[Squirtles]

After his stellar year? Nooooooooo.

Oh well didn't work, move on.

He tried his hardest don’t be so harsh on the bloke keep that stuff to Facebook

 

[John2010362340]

Over his career Crouch has been rather solid and not missed a great deal of football.
He is also a BnF winner and All Australian.

yeah his missed this year. But we don’t know how bad that groin is or if it was a case of I’m leaving and I’ll just take the year off and get myself cherry ripe for my new club.

Talia is an injury concern. But is a bonafide gun defender and we are lacking a genuine key back to go with Howard.

if both passed medicals. Why say no?

your talking substantial improvements on Carlisle/Frawley and Dunstan.

Why not develop Clav? 197cm quick and strong and seems okay in the air... Lets develop someone who seems to have a great upside..

 

[saintkildaman]

Sam McClure reporting Teague is gone now. I hope Carlton appoint Ross the boss and Cerra looks for another suitor.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Why not develop Clav? 197cm quick and strong and seems okay in the air... Lets develop someone who seems to have a great upside..

Weve already spent some time on him, why don’t we keep going and actually see what he can do? What’s he played…around 3 games?