Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 4 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[doggies ftw]

Of the available options he is my preffered

I’d love Ceglar + Ladhams/Lynch/Flynn. Not sure any of them would be happy with that as they’re all looking for more opportunities. But I guess competing with Ceglar/Sweet is a better deal than most other teams.

 

[doggiesin08]

Good analysis, must admit he’s growing on me a bit

Someone else mentioned previously but it would be great if hit-outs to advantage lost were available.

What you don't know from the data is whether a disproportionate number of Grudy's hitouts to advantage came when contesting defensive 50 stoppages against Charlie Dixon, or if in the game against Freo if Ladham's dominated Treacy and Lobb but lost to Darcy.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Perhaps the AFL are driving the agenda. See below on their email/web page. Who says the 'Dogs are "not happy" - written as if they are fuming, I'm sure they'd like him to stay, but I'm sure they understand a lack of opportunity.


Make me a Magpie: Dogs not happy as young mid wants out
Patrick Lipinski has requested a trade to Collingwood

By Staff writer - 1 day ago
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Patrick Lipinski in action during a Western Bulldogs training session at Whitten Oval on June 16, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos

THE WESTERN Bulldogs have suffered another blow days out from its Grand Final defeat with emerging midfielder Pat Lipinski requesting a trade to Collingwood.
As revealed by AFL.com.au, Lipinski has been offered a three-year contract extension by the Bulldogs, but has informed the Dogs he wants to head to the Pies.
The decision has infuriated the Bulldogs.
"The club's preference is to retain Pat as a Bulldogs player into the future, and it tabled a three-year contract extension earlier this season as a show of faith in the talented 23-year-old," the Bulldogs said in a statement.



There's also this if you're interested.
Why Dogs Should Chase Port Big Man
11:24MINS
Published 1 day ago
Why Dogs should chase Port big man, how will Pies land Lipinski?

Pretty sure hutchys mob run the AFL webpage as part of his total media buyout he did through crocmedia. You’ll note AFLnation are heavily biased to the top of the page if you want to listen to the radio through their app. Likewise SEN where he has lots of influence. That’s also why Hutchy stalwarts Barrett, Lloyd et al are constantly on there with opinion pieces and why it stinks with Essendon bias as well…. I think that’s the case. I could be wrong it’s just from memory and it certainly makes sense the way the page is run..

 

[LittleG]

Surprised someone hasn’t nominated us yet…. Perhaps their agent is trying to drive up the contract.

 

[dergert]

So yesterday Pickering came out and refuted the whispers about us getting into Darcy Moore

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Darcy Moore

Age

30

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

's ear.

I am shocked that this board didn't go I to meltdown over this rumour.

 

[doggies ftw]

Surprised someone hasn’t nominated us yet…. Perhaps their agent is trying to drive up the contract.

Spill the goss

 

[Hoges64]

Surprised someone hasn’t nominated us yet…. Perhaps their agent is trying to drive up the contract.

FFS.

Lol

 

[Smiley Boy]

Surprised someone hasn’t nominated us yet…. Perhaps their agent is trying to drive up the contract.

Come on mannnnn

 

[cleveland]

So yesterday Pickering came out and refuted the whispers about us getting into Darcy Moore's ear.

I am shocked that this board didn't go I to meltdown over this rumour.

That was 2 years ago

 

[Northernsoul74]

A very simple look at Ladhams' games between Round 9 and Round 13 while Lycett was injured:

• Clearly dominant to Jordan Sweet in Round 9. At the very least he'd be a meaningful upgrade here.
• Clearly dominated by Brodie Grundy (2 goals and 10 coaches votes) but still had 21 possessions and 9 marks himself.
• Edged out Sean Darcy who he is the same age at in a reasonably close contest
• Out-rucked Blicavs and Ratugolea (not a high bar) against the Cats while getting a bit of the ball.

		HO​	HOW%​	HOA​	HOA %​	Disposals​	Marks​	Fantasy​
Round 9	Peter Ladhams	37​	56.9%​	8​	21.6%​	18​	3​	98​
WBD	Jordan Sweet	18​	28.6%​	4​	22.2%​	9​	2​	51​
Round 10	Peter Ladhams	10​	17.2%​	1​	10.0%​	21​	9​	95​
COLL	Brodie Grundy	33​	53.2%​	10​	30.3%​	23​	5​	142​
Round 11	Peter Ladhams	21​	38.2%​	9​	42.9%​	20​	4​	103​
FRE	Sean Darcy	24​	45.3%​	8​	33.3%​	17​	4​	84​
Round 13	Peter Ladhams	29​	39.7%​	9​	31.0%​	17​	3​	78​
GEEL	Mark Blicavs	18​	40.0%​	3​	16.7%​	NMF​	NMF​	NMF​
GEEL	E. Ratugolea	10​	34.5%​	1​	10.0%​	NMF​	NMF​	NMF​

He actually responded quite well against Grundy after the first quarter.

 

[Dogs5416]

Points for Darcy

Reckon we deal with Lions who have late picks and give them a future pick as they will not use all there picks. They also need points for Ashcroft in 2022. So future second for this years 47, 51 and 57. Gives us 757 points.

We then split 17 with Geelong for two second rounders. Picks 30 and 32 which gives us 1213 points.

Trade Lipinski for a future 3rd which will won’t be that different to the pick we trade to the Lions if Pies struggle next year and we have a similar season.

In- 30, 32, 47, 51, 57 and Pies 2022 3rd round pick

Out- Lipinski, 17 and 2022 second rounder.

Thoughts?

 

[dergert]

That was 2 years ago

Hahaha I only just read it yesterday?

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Can we take extra picks to the draft again like last year - or is it back to only taking the same number of picks as available spots? Will help us to trade down picks for Darcy if we can take extra picks in

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Points for Darcy

Reckon we deal with Lions who have late picks and give them a future pick as they will not use all there picks. They also need points for Ashcroft in 2022. So future second for this years 47, 51 and 57. Gives us 757 points.

We then split 17 with Geelong for two second rounders. Picks 30 and 32 which gives us 1213 points.

Trade Lipinski for a future 3rd which will won’t be that different to the pick we trade to the Lions if Pies struggle next year and we have a similar season.

In- 30, 32, 47, 51, 57 and Pies 2022 3rd round pick

Out- Lipinski, 17 and 2022 second rounder.

Thoughts?

Don’t we then need 6 list spots entering the draft? Not sure how we do that if we also bring a mature ruck and a tall back in then that’s 8 players we are turning over. Lippa and Wallis plus some brutal decisions to achieve it. Most of our team is in contract as well so it’s gonna be a hell of a dance for Sammy P this year.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

That’s if they want to ruin club relations.

Can’t use Carlton as a comparison. They are a pack of backstabbing pricks.

That seemed more like Gold Coast’s fault than Carlton. Decided to lose a player for free instead of taking an offer which was probably unders but still reasonable. Then traded the following years pick 11 for pick 27, when they could’ve used the assets from the Martin offer to get that pick.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Points for Darcy

Reckon we deal with Lions who have late picks and give them a future pick as they will not use all there picks. They also need points for Ashcroft in 2022. So future second for this years 47, 51 and 57. Gives us 757 points.

We then split 17 with Geelong for two second rounders. Picks 30 and 32 which gives us 1213 points.

Trade Lipinski for a future 3rd which will won’t be that different to the pick we trade to the Lions if Pies struggle next year and we have a similar season.

In- 30, 32, 47, 51, 57 and Pies 2022 3rd round pick

Out- Lipinski, 17 and 2022 second rounder.

Thoughts?

We can only use points with the picks equal to the amount of list spots we have available. So it depends how many of those spaces we’ll have open but I think in general this is sort of what we’ll look to do.

 

[Northernsoul74]

You want Peter Ladhams? You're going to have to cough up: Port Adelaide

The Power expect to hold on to versatile tall Peter Ladhams, despite his desire for more ruck time

www.afl.com.au

 

[Mojorisin]

You want Peter Ladhams? You're going to have to cough up: Port Adelaide

The Power expect to hold on to versatile tall Peter Ladhams, despite his desire for more ruck time

www.afl.com.au

Standard stuff. If they said they were keen for him to leave they would show their hand. Similar to the stringer situation

 

[Dogsman16]

You want Peter Ladhams? You're going to have to cough up: Port Adelaide

The Power expect to hold on to versatile tall Peter Ladhams, despite his desire for more ruck time

www.afl.com.au

Pretty harsh that Port told Ladhams to look at his options, then play hardball with the trade terms.

 

[Bulldogs85]

You want Peter Ladhams? You're going to have to cough up: Port Adelaide

The Power expect to hold on to versatile tall Peter Ladhams, despite his desire for more ruck time

www.afl.com.au

Hopefully the club just gets Ceglar and get enough points to match a Bid on Darcy.

 

[Doggy]

Hopefully the club just gets Ceglar and get enough points to match a Bid on Darcy.

Ladhams is better

 

[Bulldogs85]

Ladhams is better

hope he stays at port Adelaide

 

[Doggy]

hope he stays at port Adelaide

Why? As I said he's a better option than Ceglar

 

[bulldogs54]

Is Sam Lloyd

22

Sam Lloyd

Age

36

Ht

180cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.8

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

considered a spot being removed from our list coming into this trade period now?
I think he retired after initially being listed as a senior player on our list this season.

 

[scooter600x]

Is Sam Lloyd considered a spot being removed from our list coming into this trade period now?
I think he retired after initially being listed as a senior player on our list this season.

Yes. Lloyd is considered a retirement for this years draft calculations