List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

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13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[JediSaint]

I seriously hope we are no longer going down the Frawley, McKernan, Wood, etc. path anymore - not withstanding that Wood got a one year contact. (?)
No more recycling aging has-beens please. (Not including Paddy Ryder in this of course)

I would look at bringing in a cheap older #2 ruck to fill in the gap before Heath develops into the number 1 role.

 

[Captain Paddy]

Some guy called Carlos / Carl on trade radio suggesting we go after Tim Engish and play Marshall at CHB. Thoughts ?

English and Marshall rotating between forward and ruck is delicious. But not as nice as Kingx2 and Marshall

 

[snails13]

Twomey just released his top 30 draft prospects for September. No Michito, but...

• • 

Midfielder
183cm/82kg
16/5/03
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
A member of St Kilda's Next Generation Academy, Windhager's progress this season has caught more eyes than just those of the Saints. Powerful and flexible, Windhager can be used in midfield roles or at either end of the ground. He overcame a knee reconstruction last year to piece together a strong campaign in 2021 and will be on the verge of the top-20 – where the Saints would not be able to match a bid for him.

Have faith in Cal,he is never far of the mark

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Have faith in Cal,he is never far of the mark

Only thing here is that this is his rankings rather than the rumour mill. Could dramatically change.

 

[Saint_Dos]

Yep Parmi here in Bendigo
And Nelson's Pizza are the best I have tasted anywhere

They are a bloody good pizza joint!

 

[DarkSaint]

Some guy called Carlos / Carl on trade radio suggesting we go after Tim Engish and play Marshall at CHB. Thoughts ?

Bevo clearly doesn't rate English. Played Lewis Young in the ruck this season and couldn't wait to get Martin into the side. From all report he wants to go back to W.A

I think a pick in the 20's may get the job done. Marshall CHF rotating with English would be an ideal scenario and has our ruck stocks sorted for the next 10 years.

 

[JediSaint]

Hartley would be worth a look. At least has a chance of lasting more than a year.

I agree, have a look at Hartley to bridge that gap but I would like to see us have a crack at Leek Alleer in the Draft. I like his attack, speed, ground ball and athleticism and could really set us up in our back 6.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

I should probably put that stuff at the top

And actually do your job?

 

[Joffaboy]

English??????????????????? Sweet.

 

[BrutThough]

Bevo clearly doesn't rate English. Played Lewis Young in the ruck this season and couldn't wait to get Martin into the side. From all report he wants to go back to W.A

I think a pick in the 20's may get the job done. Marshall CHF rotating with English would be an ideal scenario and has our ruck stocks sorted for the next 10 years.

Bevo doesn't rate English as a ruck because English is a crap ruckman.

 

[BrutThough]

English??????????????????? Sweet.

I see what you did there.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

They have made it know though. They certainly aren't playing it cool even if they aren't being aggressively overt. We could easily do the usual thing of saying "he's a contracted player at another club, we worry about what's inside our 4 walls. If he was to come on the market we'd look at him just like any other available player". That's the accepted hose down when it comes to potential trade ins. We played Hill out in the media, Hanners etc. We like the media attention to sell hope to potential members but also wear the consequence at trade time. A bit like telling a salesman that you'll pay what ever it takes before you've started to negotiate the price.

How did we play Hill out in the media?

It was rumoured he wanted to move back to Melb,
chose us & it was reported. Not like we could play our cards close to our chest after that.

If anything we’re very circumspect with our comments around trade period.

You can’t control the media narrative after a player selects your club as their preference.

As for Ben, I am yet to read or see anything that suggests we’ve been overtly open about landing him. Its all been media speculation. Finnis comments were very innocent


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[BrutThough]

How did we play Hill out in the media?

It was rumoured he wanted to move back to Melb,
chose us & it was reported. Not like we could play our cards close to our chest after that.

If anything we’re very circumspect with our comments around trade period.

You can’t control the media narrative after a player selects your club as their preference.

As for Ben, I am yet to read or see anything that suggests we’ve been overtly open about landing him. Its all been media speculation. Finnis comments were very innocent


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We also had Hill wrapped up by mid-May that season, so well before the media for a whiff of it.

 

[George]

And actually do your job?
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You know you shouldn't talk to your boss like that, speed racer. Why don't you have a lay down, those spaghetti legs must be almost crushed under the weight of your anxiety.

 

[Yawkey way]

Yep Parmi here in Bendigo
And Nelson's Pizza are the best I have tasted anywhere

Confirmed as the best two of his siblings have worked there as teenagers apparently.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Sounds like the Petracca Paddy debate. I think the whole thing is a massive distraction and makes us lazy. We are moving pieces around and pushing pieces around to fit in a player we don't have any guarantees of even getting. I wish we'd just do something the normal way occasionally. We never seem to go by a script. Drafting your stars then filling the holes is a time honoured list build strategy.

We seem to be stripping the list out and rebuilding it with imported GOPs and high risk cheap draft picks and trying to replace the missing draft picks with semi developed players from other clubs which cost us more picks. Essendon and Carlton followed that path and have stayed in purgatory the whole time. Both have drafted their way out of it since then.

Geez mate, you’re desperate to find the club at fault in absolutely everything.


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[Winmar2Lockett]

I seriously hope we are no longer going down the Frawley, McKernan, Wood, etc. path anymore - not withstanding that Wood got a one year contact. (?)
No more recycling aging has-beens please. (Not including Paddy Ryder in this of course)

They were super cheap, break glass in case of emergency signings.

Nothing wrong with that approach unless they all were required to play at once.

Which they were… then all got injured.


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[Captain Paddy]

How did we play Hill out in the media?

It was rumoured he wanted to move back to Melb,
chose us & it was reported. Not like we could play our cards close to our chest after that.

If anything we’re very circumspect with our comments around trade period.

You can’t control the media narrative after a player selects your club as their preference.

As for Ben, I am yet to read or see anything that suggests we’ve been overtly open about landing him. Its all been media speculation. Finnis comments were very innocent


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From memory Freo took it to the media through Peter Bell. He came out talking a massive game.

We offered our first pick and he laughed it off so we went to GWS and split it then traded with Port Adelaide before going back to Freo.

It was honestly one of the great trade periods. We went armed with a decent first and through splitting it, trading with port and then adding some fringe/old players like Acres, Bruce and Stuv we walked away with Hill, Howard, Ryder, Jones, Butler and Byrnes was picked up with one of the picks we got for Bruce

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Luke Jackson, James Jordon, Jake Bowey, Kozzy Pickett. All first or second year players who played the entire finals run and most of the year. Melbourne weren’t concerned about playing old farts like Jones there. They played the kids and won the flag. No reason our kids can’t just be good.

Spot on. I’d be more comfortable with Leo Connolly with ball in hand late in a big final than Luke Dunstan.

Back the kids in, we’ve got enough peak age talent to support them.


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[bird_man]

Sounds like the Petracca Paddy debate. I think the whole thing is a massive distraction and makes us lazy. We are moving pieces around and pushing pieces around to fit in a player we don't have any guarantees of even getting. I wish we'd just do something the normal way occasionally. We never seem to go by a script. Drafting your stars then filling the holes is a time honoured list build strategy.

We seem to be stripping the list out and rebuilding it with imported GOPs and high risk cheap draft picks and trying to replace the missing draft picks with semi developed players from other clubs which cost us more picks. Essendon and Carlton followed that path and have stayed in purgatory the whole time. Both have drafted their way out of it since then.

Gringo, I feel like when you run out of stuff to be cranky about you make up ideas in your head to get cranky about...

What pieces are we currently moving around to fit a player in that hasn't committed yet?

As far as I'm aware the only thing currently being reported is we are trying to get a better hand in the draft, which makes sense when we have had one pick in the top 40 in two years

 

[hangdog]

Have faith in Cal,he is never far of the mark

Last year he had Lachie Jones ranked 9, he went 16.
Connor Downie ranked 22, went 35.
Errol Gulden ranked 24, went 32.

Only Braeden Campbell (ranked 8) went above when he was bid on at pick 5.

Just goes to show, academy kids can be kind of forgotten about on draft night and slide. Fingers crossed we benefit from some slides.

 

[George]

What pieces are we currently moving around to fit a player in that hasn't committed yet?

JAMES FRAWLEY AND SHAUN MCKERNAN!!!!

 

[bird_man]

According to Edmund he still thinks Ross will sign after how confident Ratten was in his last interview.

He did say he thought it would have been done by now though but hasn't heard of any clubs chasing his signature.

Unless he and his management are keeping a secret it doesn't seem likely he will leave.

 

[gringo2011]

They have? Last I checked we have won more finals in the last 6 years than both of them combined

We have only started our full on rebuild three years ago when Lethlean arrived. Carlton should start to move up soon. Their list just needs time now, they have most of the pieces in place.

 

[11men1cup]

Would we take Sier as delisted free agent. I know he's a bit of a w***er but he could be worth a 1 year deal

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