List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

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13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Premium]

Who do you think we are working with Rors? Who has got plenty of mid field frdp's? Hmmmmm

List spots can be filled easily - we will end up with a minimum 3 in the draft , we will most probably get a unused draft pick from a club that can't use them all and then in the rookie draft we can add another 3 - so that fills the void.
However they need to make every selection count and Windhager by all accounts is a must get.

You don't know what they are cooking up , but at the moment they don't have to many options to improve there draft hand.
Would they give up next years 2nd round draft pick to get into this years 2nd round or use it on a experienced player we need.

 

[Premium]

That’s why I’m surprised we didn’t go harder for Chol

His family from the Gold Coast so was going to need something over the top to get him.

 

[JediSaint]

Case in point, Jack Billings. Hasn’t become the player we thought he’d become because he is far more outside than we thought he was. Transition to the midfield was & is never gonna happen

Yet we just gave him an extra 4 years

 

[BrutThough]

That’s why I’m surprised we didn’t go harder for Chol

Gold Coast offered 4 years at 450k.

Not a contract we can, or any club should, be matching.

 

[Rors]

Yet we just gave him an extra 4 years

Yep… an absolutely ****ing bewildering decision by the club IMHO

 

[PandaG]

If we do go after BING next year then Webster will come into discussion to offload due to the salary cap but won't be this year. I was thinking about this yesterday when looking over who is out of contract next year. Hanners, Long, Battle and Webster are the main ones who would be on decent coin. No surprise to see them all gone by the start of 2023.

I’d expect battle to go to lions and long to dogs this year.

 

[JediSaint]

Bit of a reality check for players to put themselves on the market only to receive little or no interest, you’d think.

Now we just re-offer with an even lower offer

 

[PandaG]

Yep… an absolutely ******* bewildering decision by the club IMHO

Nah
Billings can play and deserved the years. He will come good now the pressure is off and he is getting paid what he is worth.
Nice kick, good hands and makes good decisions with the footy.

 

[lewdogs]

Yep… an absolutely ******* bewildering decision by the club IMHO

Hard to say that when you don't know the money he's on.

 

[JediSaint]

Yep… an absolutely ******* bewildering decision by the club IMHO

Yep me too. I couldn’t believe we offered 4 years. Min would of been 2 with a trigger and a lot more low balled than reported.

 

[Joffaboy]

Hard to say that when you don't know the money he's on.

Think it was reported 3 and a 4th with triggers.
Billings is no star but no bust. A bit like Hill, cream on top. In a finals team he would be very good.

 

[Joffaboy]

Yep me too. I couldn’t believe we offered 4 years. Min would of been 2 with a trigger and a lot more low balled than reported.

How much is he on? Nobody knows. The list manager knows what he is doing.

 

[Premium]

Nah
Billings can play and deserved the years. He will come good now the pressure is off and he is getting paid what he is worth.
Nice kick, good hands and makes good decisions with the footy.

Billings is a sound player and is more than serviceable , giving him a 4 year contract will turn out to be a very good deal in the end.
Ross is another story , he has reached his peak as a player and giving a 28yr old more than 2yrs would not a wise move considering he might not even be able to hold his spot in the 22 if Bytel , Hannerbery , Byrne , Connolly , Sharman , Gresham and Paton are trying to squeeze into the 22.

 

[Rors]

Nah
Billings can play and deserved the years. He will come good now the pressure is off and he is getting paid what he is worth.
Nice kick, good hands and makes good decisions with the footy.

3yrs max. 2yrs with a trigger for 3rd would have been perfect. He just a player.

He’s basically a slightly better version of Tom Phillips… But I’d even say Phillips is harder than Jack

Tom Phillips and Jack Billings AFL Stats Comparison

Tom Phillips and Jack Billings AFL Stats Comparison.

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[Rors]

Think it was reported 3 and a 4th with triggers.
Billings is no star but no bust. A bit like Hill, cream on top. In a finals team he would be very good.

Nah, I reckon they’d be making missing persons posters of Jack after a GF.

 

[aussierulesrules]

My understanding is that we offered him a year. Same with Ross (in that they were offers to entice them to leave I think)

I haven't seen anything about Dunny getting offered a contract. I thought that we'd said straight up that he's not going to get a contract.

One of the mods on the D&T board posted this a few days ago in the Dunstan thread, FWIW:

He was offered a year but in the exit interview they all agreed it would be better to part ways (according to Luke himself in an interview). Coach doesn’t rate him.

I guess if he can’t find something else he might still take the year, depends if the coach’s opinion is vindicated by the market or not.

 

[Rors]

Hard to say that when you don't know the money he's on.

That a fair point. But as our 2nd highest paid player for the last 4 yrs, if he’s not now on the bottom tier of our payments schedule, then he’s still being overpaid IMO

 

[JediSaint]

I'm hoping it is more like this is what he is wanting 4 years and no one is willing to go there hence his 2 years with us is still top. Its not the money, its the length of contract.

Im not against him staying on a modest wage. I really hope we are not offering him way more than anyone else would want to pay.

He was pretty

Dream Scenario:

1. Turns out spook is still on our list and every journo is just saying 'delisted'. GCS offer him 3 years on $400k triggering a 3rd round pick (47).
2. Ross also gets a great offer (from god knows where lol) maybe Essendon haha, 4 years on 500k triggering end of 2nd round (39)
3. Ben Long wants to head to Richmond, who are willing to hand over (28).
4. Trade Josh Battle to GCS for a future 2nd (which we'll promptly send back next year )

4. Trade Josh Battle and pick #9 to GC for pick 3 and future 2nd

 

[Mowman]

3yrs max. 2yrs with a trigger for 3rd would have been perfect. He just a player.

He’s basically a slightly better version of Tom Phillips… But I’d even say Phillips is harder than Jack

Yep, just a player

If he was anything more at least one club might have had a bite at him

 

[Joffaboy]

Nah, I reckon they’d be making missing persons posters of Jack after a GF.

If we have the team to make a Granny players like Jack can be a vital part.

See Bradley Hill triple premiership winner for details.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Get Brander and Charlie Dean get rid of Battle

 

[Ads734]

Nobody said Coff would be traded. Contracted, still a required player, but other clubs have asked the question.

So say Coff asks to be traded and we are offered a late FRDP? We won't accept that. Maybe we would take two but who is offering that?
Coff in my view is highly unlikely to be traded.
I really think Long, Battle and Ross are the ones that will be likely but not our emerging stars.
Funnily enough, didn't we get Coff, Long and Battle for O'Meara?

Clark

 

[D2D3]

One of the mods on the D&T board posted this a few days ago in the Dunstan thread, FWIW:

Damn this Dunston situation is looking quite the debacle. Can’t imagine him coming back after what he’s said publicly though.

 

[Ads734]

Right. So let’s hope our new fitness and development guys are up to it.
Almost the most important draftees IMO.

Exactly for some reason when development is poor, people think that replacing the young guys youlve got with other young guys will fix the issue. Untill you fix the development you’ll never move forward. I personally think our development team is good at getting young guys to a really solid footing and developing really strong role players. Conversely they struggle to get players to take the next step to stardom.

 

[Joffaboy]

Damn this Dunston situation is looking quite the debacle. Can’t imagine him coming back after what he’s said publicly though.

He was never coming back. Dont think the contract is still on the table. Once you get the coach offside you may as well move on.
It happens. Farren Ray told Eade to GAGF'ed after they lost a 2008 final and Eade was blaming him.

Told he would never play for the Bulldogs again. Came to us.