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Ed needs to set up an independent province within Victoria called "Little England", he'd live in bliss then.
*southern NSW please
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Ed needs to set up an independent province within Victoria called "Little England", he'd live in bliss then.
They do realise there would be no AFL Grand Final if Victoria was independent.
At least Victorians will finally get in the test team
1700+ cases today. Likely that the rest of country cuts before VIC cutsoff.
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'Born' is not really a great metric, Gillard was for all intents and purposes a Victorian PMGreat post. Last PM born in Victoria was Fraser in ... 1930.
I don't think that really stacks up when you look at the detailIf you regard being supportive of gay marriage as a barometer of social progressivism, then there's a real case to be made that NSW has become more socon than QLD.
'Born' is not really a great metric, Gillard was for all intents and purposes a Victorian PM
The Murdochs are from Melbourne, aren't they?Sydney media
The Murdochs are from Melbourne, aren't they?
They cut us off last year already
'Born' is not really a great metric, Gillard was for all intents and purposes a Victorian PM
I don't think that really stacks up when you look at the detail
VoteCompass rated all 151 federal electorates from least to most conservative prior to the 2019 election. If you bucket them into deciles (1 being the ~15 most conservative electorates in the country, 10 being the ~15 least conservative), this is where NSW and Queensland stand:
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Still a stark contrast, I think
Larger forces at work across the Anglosphere:
Jump off the deeep end …you’re smarter than the rest..Jesus, now he is talking to himself
Learn too knit and you will find oo relaxing..Oh my god.
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'Born' is not really a great metric, Gillard was for all intents and purposes a Victorian PM
I don't think that really stacks up when you look at the detail
VoteCompass rated all 151 federal electorates from least to most conservative prior to the 2019 election. If you bucket them into deciles (1 being the ~15 most conservative electorates in the country, 10 being the ~15 least conservative), this is where NSW and Queensland stand:
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Still a stark contrast, I think
I think you are overstating things. Even the most liberal Queensland electorate (Griffith) is more conservative than the majority of NSW electoratesWould be affected greatly by the blue-ribbon areas of East Sydney, which are certainly much more socially progressive than the rest of the state.
Similarly, the areas outside of Brisbane (particularly the interior and the central coast) affect QLD's ratings, since Maranoa is to conservativism what Batman is to progressivism.
The definition is in the article - a combination of social conservatism and right wing economicsAlso, how would one define 'conservatism' and 'progressive' in the context of that survey, anyway? Queenslanders were generally less sympathetic to banning live export and reducing mining, not for ideological reasons but for pragmatic ones (i.e. they're trying to make a living). If those activities (say) went on in Victoria, they would look more 'conservative' than they are judging by that survey's metrics.
I think you are overstating things. Even the most liberal Queensland electorate (Griffith) is more conservative than the majority of NSW electorates
The definition is in the article - a combination of social conservatism and right wing economics
Given that Queensland is not exactly known for being a hotbed of the Austrian school, I think it’s pretty safe to assume that they’re scoring high on socially conservative voters
Why do you think promises to invest large amounts of money into green energy projects in these areas haven't resonated with the locals? There's always some reluctance to rock the boat when the status quo is working for them, but surely at least some of them must recognise they're selling Kodak cameras and the world is slowly entering the digital camera age.Yes, particularly outside of Brisbane. But again, while I sympathise with banning live exports and phasing out coal, it's not in the interests of people from the Central Coast to support phasing out those things because for many its their livelihood, so by supporting those issues, they appear more so-con than they actually are.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duckBut I would regard that as Queenslanders acting in accordance with their perceived interests, rather than being inherently right-wing.
Why do you think promises to invest large amounts of money into green energy projects in these areas haven't resonated with the locals? There's always some reluctance to rock the boat when the status quo is working for them, but surely at least some of them must recognise they're selling Kodak cameras and the world is slowly entering the digital camera age.
By the way, is the term "Central Coast" commonly used in reference to Central Queensland? I've only ever heard it used when referring to the area between Sydney and Newcastle.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
Of course there are a multitude of factors at the micro level, but when you look at the two dimensional vote compass I don’t see how you can get around the fact that Queenslanders are absurdly socially conservative
QLD is a way more conservative state than NSW, any way you slice it
Highly specious to extrapolate so much from one vote on one issue given the weight of contrary evidencePut simply, if QLD was decidedly more socon than NSW, I would expect that to be reflected in the plebiscite results for what is decidedly a socially progressive issue.
Highly specious to extrapolate so much from one vote on one issue given the weight of evidence to the contrary
That’s cool, I’m just talking about what the data saysI suspect