List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Lore's 2021 Draft Order

Spoiler: Lore's 2022 Future Picks Draft Order

 

[King Corey]

This whole trade for Tarrant talk I don't get, do we really think we would get less of a compensation pick than Hawks got for Smith? If compensation is a 3rd round pick, like Smith was last year, Richmond isn't going to salvage much of the Chol value and would be in our best interest to see that pick get knock behind our pick 20.

The unknown is whether we have an AFL valuation on his FA compensation.

If it's anything up to the 3rd round then we should be forcing Richmond to provide us with something to balance that. Otherwise there is no incentive for us to not delist Tarrant.

 

[The b shart]

Move on to will brodie

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Yeah, wasn't our future 3rd part of the deal?

I think GC was a bit incompetent with this deal, they should have asked the player first before wasting out rime.

Yeah, the article said picks, not pick, and GC didn't even get their player on board.

It is stinks of a rotten deal.

 

[krakouers]

Are there any other GC players that this deal could be explored with?

 

[king rising]

Piss this McPherson bloke off. Why should we have to bend over backwards to accomodate a bang average footballer

 

[B4Bear]

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So much potential. So much shit.

 

[Tas]

If the reports of our offering a future pick for CCJ are correct that suggests we're only going near 2021 #38 in the trade once the search for another pick inside rounds 1-2 is complete.

These are the current likely incomings vs outgoings we have to make work:

[TD valign="top"]Garner[/TD][TD valign="top"]2021 #1[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Tyson[/TD][TD valign="top"]2021 #20[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Atley or Dumont[/TD][TD valign="top"]2021 #38[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Tarrant[/TD][TD valign="top"]Coleman-Jones[/TD]

Where we appear to be trying to track:

[TD valign="top"]Garner[/TD][TD valign="top"]2021 #1[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Tyson[/TD][TD valign="top"]2021 #19[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Atley[/TD][TD valign="top"]2021 #20[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Dumont[/TD][TD valign="top"]McPherson[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Tarrant[/TD][TD valign="top"]Coleman-Jones[/TD]

Remember the above tables are just net ins/outs not trades.

In that scenario #38 won't be taken to the draft and can be traded. Not necessarily directly for CCJ though.

We may still want to offset it with a future 3rd or 4th if it's with Richmond.

Or we could trade it to another club for a future 2nd rounder or multiple future 3rd rounders.

Assume we stop answering the phone when Richmond calls and CCJ going into PSD and Tarrant via free agency
Garner -> 1
Tyson -> 19
Atley -> 20
Dumont -> DM
Campbell -> CCJ PSD
Tarrant -> FA comp

At this stage the DM/19 deal looks dead in the water.

 

[krakouers]

So much potential. So much sh*t.

Yeah I was thinking that there really isn't much there both clubs would accept other than him..

Oh well, GC17 will just have to get fined by the AFL who will pay the fine

 

[King Corey]

Assume we stop answering the phone when Richmond calls and CCJ going into PSD and Tarrant via free agency
Garner -> 1
Tyson -> 19
Atley -> 20
Dumont -> DM
Campbell -> CCJ PSD
Tarrant -> FA comp

At this stage the DM/19 deal looks dead in the water.

That scenario potentially gives us #38 #39 so one of those would need to be traded out.

 

[Kangaroos techno]

Btw for all the stuff I'm slinging towards Joyce, driving up contracts for DeGoey and Martin looks to have at least some benefit

Damn right. Put some respect on his name!

 

[teethmeetsflesh]

Flanders and 19 for salary dump, 20 + future second round

 

[Tas]

Not sure pick 19 is worth another Tom Dyson situation.

If we got 19 and Dyson then that deal wouldn't have sucked as bad as it did.

 

[Kangaroos techno]

When do we find out about our priority pick?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

When do we find out about our priority pick?

 

[Rooboys Rool]

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Ainsworth?

 

[Gorman2Geister]

Haha, getting in first with the Norf fail to land big fish again...

Not like a Darcy to be standoffish initially and show a bit of pride and prejudice, wonder if we will be as forgiving as Miss Lizzie Bennett later on.

Sounds like he will be prepping for preseason with Southport Sharks this time next year.

 

[blackshadow]

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How about that Greenwood bloke, isn't he as good as JHF?

 

[krakouers]

Flanders and 19 for salary dump, 20 + future second round

 

[Kangaroos techno]

Ainsworth?

I was thinking that but he's lazy and hasn't broken into the midfield like GC had hoped. He's like a Red Dot version of Toby Greene.

We have enough marking half forwards. We need pressure.

 

[Tas]

The unknown is whether we have an AFL valuation on his FA compensation.

If it's anything up to the 3rd round then we should be forcing Richmond to provide us with something to balance that. Otherwise there is no incentive for us to not delist Tarrant.

Smith was 31y9m old when he went to Geelong last year as a free agent. Tarrant is 32y5m, both on 2 year deals. If the money is a similar bracket the compensation should be the same, which was a 3rd round pick for Hawthorn last year.

 

[TiggerMan22]

Carlton must be getting a top 10 pick from WC for Sam Petrevski-Seton if you think that way

How many games has he played?

 

[giantroo]

Riley Beveridge said that if we manage to get pick 19 from GC , he can't see us trading either 19 and 20.

 

[Le Grille]

It never was

 

[Tas]

How many games has he played?

Amazingly 93. How many good games would be a much smaller number.

 

[Swallow_Wood]

When do we find out about our priority pick?

When we get this trade with GC done.

That's when the AFL say no priority pick for you (but here's 19).