Geelong vs pies final should not be at the mcg.

[Brad Goodman]

This (and counting) has to be a record for a serious post.

 

[eddiesmith]

It’s remarkable a team is upset they have to play finals matches at the grand final venue.

If 95,000 people at the MCG scares your players then you’re pretty ****ed!!!

 

[gouki88]

Cos we are perpetually victims. Thats why. You speak about that label as a bad thing. But its not if its actually true.

Your victimhood stems from the fact that your club tries to balance playing in a 21st century national competition whilst trying to maintain an pro-am level ground as its home.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Geelong should have 11 home games and all home finals at Geelong.

 

[Rich01]

Why? Its not about crowds.

Thinking like that Richmond would play their home games at Punt Road.

But I wouldn’t be arguing something so ridiculous. Which is the premise of the OP.

 

[Freddy Swift]

Why is 50k a limit? Thats still 50k less then the mcg.

finals grounds are not about maximising crowds. If so most interstate finals would also be at the mcg.

its about fairness. But no one complains about fairness when it only negatively impacts one team. They just call that team sooks.

im guessing everyone will suddenly realise that geelong has been treated unfairly and it must end when gold coast earns a home final against brisbane. That will be the day this bias against geelong in finals ends. Bookmark it.

Since when have the AFL cared about fairness? They only care about money and getting the biggest crowds possible.
Gold Coast would get a home final because the league is trying to grow the game there.
Do you think it’s unfair that Marvel tenants don’t get finals on their ground either or unfairness only happens to Geelong?
They don’t have to stay in the AFL if there’s anything they don’t like.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

What if Geelong said they prefer to play Collingwood at Marvel/Perth or other venue. I can understand the afl having a concern about not enough access…. But surely Geelong as the #1 team should have some right to decide where they play as an alternative?

 

[Freshwater]

So what's the point finishing 1st then? May as well finish 4th.

MCG final. I actually work with one of your 3 time premiership champs from your golden era. He is in 100% agreement that all Geelong’s big finals should be at the G, where they all were when he won his 3 flags for you. That group gets it. 95,000 v 35,000 it is the peoples game. The MCG is where it is at. Go there and win there and stop complaining because really you have it better than most clubs in this comp in so many other areas.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

Since when have the AFL cared about fairness? They only care about money and getting the biggest crowds possible.
Gold Coast would get a home final because the league is trying to grow the game there.
Do you think it’s unfair that Marvel tenants don’t get finals on their ground either or unfairness only happens to Geelong?
They don’t have to stay in the AFL if there’s anything they don’t like.

You wouldn’t be saying this if it didn’t advantage Richmond.

 

[JohnZ]

We're always on of the two 'big ticket' home games for the Cats that they have agreed to with the AFL to fill their coffers. It ain't our fault that this is the case! By all means push back on the AFL to get 11 home games at Kardinia and give us a look at it, but quit whinging about once finals hit until then.

We play games at the MCG because the AFL needs us to fill their contracts. We dont ask to play home games at the G. A home game at KP makes us more money than a 70k crowd at the G!

 

[Freddy Swift]

Yes it does. Can take 2 hours from geelong to Melbourne and especially for those living a bit further out in geelong. Geelong is a massive rural region mate we don’t all sit there living on the edge next to the highway. Then throw in peak hour traffic on a Friday night and it’s a disaster.

Big middle finger to the geelong fans

Yes it can be hard driving to Melbourne for a Friday night game I’m sure, but you’re assuming all Geelong fans live in Geelong. They don’t. There’s a lot of Cat fans who live in Melbourne suburbs.

 

[Falcon3518]

Geelong should have 11 home games and all home finals at Geelong.

I don’t think that’s enough tbh. Every game needs to be at GMHBA.


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[blue harvest]

except it already has happened. Gws vs bulldogs prelim final would of got over 30 thousand. But instead they played it at the smaller stadium with less ticket sales even though a bigger stadium was available just 30 minutes away.

They estimated the prelim crowd would fit into the Giants' stadium (22k) and got it pretty much bang on. All members that wanted to go got a ticket. From memory there were general public sales too. They may have got a few extra theatre goers at the SCG but wouldn't have made the AFL any more money due to most of them being SCG Members. Giants had only played 1 game at the SCG too so that would hardly have been fair.

If demand for the Cats Pies QF was about 22k then they may have played it in Geelong.

 

[Libbaaaa]

I don’t think that’s enough tbh. Every game needs to be at GMHBA.


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Should bring in the boundaries a touch more for finals so we can seat a couple of thousand extra punters on the grass and eliminate the wings all together.

 

[Libbaaaa]

They estimated the prelim crowd would fit into the Giants' stadium (22k) and got it pretty much bang on. All members that wanted to go got a ticket. From memory there were general public sales too. They may have got a few extra theatre goers at the SCG but wouldn't have made the AFL any more money due to most of them being SCG Members. Giants had only played 1 game at the SCG too so that would hardly have been fair.

If demand for the Cats Pies prelim was about 22k then they may have played it in Geelong.

They did get it spot on, 90% Doggies fans and the balance freebie tickets for GWS. Damning they couldn't even sell out a prelim in a 24k stadium.

 

[blue harvest]

Comments like these are why interstate sides dislike Victorian clubs so much, this narrative that the footy world should revolve around the CBD of Melbourne and everyone else should confirm into line.

No the people of geelong shouldn’t drive 75-100+km through peak hour traffic over 2hrs on a Friday evening to get to a home game at the MCG, then drive home their kids by 1am that morning.

What a phenomenal advantage to the geelong football club and it’s loyal supporter base for finishing two games clear ontop of the ladder.

AFL only cares about $$$ not about equality and fans.

Isn't the game on Saturday afternoon?

 

[PhatBoy]

It just warps my mind the acceptance your club has over this issue we are talking about significant income and sponsorship opportunities and exposure that comes with winning the flag.

Clubs look for every bit of 1% extra come finals time yet you are giving up a significant advantage which you earned the right to.

2017 and 2019 would of seen you in GF i put my house on it.

We can’t make the decision for the AFL and from a general AFL public point of view you can see from threads like this one just how much people are against the idea so what can we do?

 

[QuietB]

How about a compromise.

The game gets played at the MCG so the AFL can cash in on a 90,000 crowd, but Geelong get to place witches hats to reduce the width of the ground by 30m on each side so their zone still works and their old legs can cope.

 

[Substance]

you get demonising geelongs stadium is what big melbourne teams supporters use to justify their unjust advantage against geelong in finals.

I just hate how narrow it is. I agree in principle that the home side should be able to play at home, and that to be made to play your home game at the oppositions home ground is bullshit. But the ground is just awful for watching footy, and it should be made wider to be more like other grounds

 

[catman2006]

To be fair the ground isn't in the right condition to host a final this year anyway, any cats supporter would understand the MCG is the better option.

 

[Falcon3518]

Well to quote Django "8 with an obvious home ground advantage" (it's actually 9) but yes you're spot on, we have our own home ground and in a 22 game season (plus finals) we get our home ground advantage 9 times.

I really feel for Richmond though, must be rough playing 17 games in Victoria and having to travel all the way to Marvel for 3 of those. Imagine how rough it would be having to play your home final at Marvel and needing to travel 2km down the road, that would be pretty taxing.

Except you know the home games against other MCG tenants are neutral and we don’t get a home ground advantage. You don’t have to worry about that.

Tbh this whole thing is the cats fault. Change your stadium to MCG dimensions and everything is all good. You will play better in finals at the MCG and will get home finals at alphabet soup stadium if you increase the seating capacity enough.

Won’t happen though cause you wanna keep it rigged during H&A.


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[PhatBoy]

How about a compromise.

The game gets played at the MCG so the AFL can cash in on a 90,000 crowd, but Geelong get to place witches hats to reduce the width of the ground by 30m on each side so their zone still works and their old legs can cope.

We have won 10 of our last 12 games at the MCG.

Seemed to cope ok in those.

 

[tigs2010]

LOL

This thread is exactly why Geelong will lose. They are still scarred from the Richmond game many years ago.

The main reason I wanted Collingwood to lose today was because they would have one foot in the prelim.

All week I've been thinking of how Dangerfield pissed his pants when he walked on the field vs Richmond "oohhh ahhhh it was our home game!! but it was like an away game it's not fair!!, where's my mummy!!".

For some reason...

 

[QuietB]

We have won 10 of our last 12 games at the MCG.

Seemed to cope ok in those.

Good - get on with it and play.

 

[catman2006]

I just hate how narrow it is. I agree in principle that the home side should be able to play at home, and that to be made to play your home game at the oppositions home ground is bullshit. But the ground is just awful for watching footy, and it should be made wider to be more like other grounds

To be fair the ground is only 7m narrower than Adelaide Oval and 14m on Optus stadium hardly makes a big difference, do we say that the ground is too long.