Rumour 2022 Rumour Discussion Thread

[Scorpus]

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[MarcusP2]

So we just ignore the previous 32?

You don't ignore it but it makes more sense to do some deeper analysis as to why he's suddenly kicking a lot more goals. It may indicate he is capable of kicking multiple goals regularly if he is playing a different role to the last couple of seasons. Or maybe he fluked, and he'll be back to regular service next season.

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[mtbkym]

Couldn't care less about Dunkley.

When does JHF tell Clarko he wants a trade to us.. surely we have been all over him especially in the last few months.

I know Rachele is a great player but if we are getting Rankine a straight swap of Rachele for JHF should be seriously considered.
JHF has the potential to lead a team to premierships does Rachele have that same grit ?
We'd be swapping last yrs pick 6 for pick 1 straight up..
Would North be willing if we are ?

Nah, not an upgrade really. No point as it doesnt really make us better.

 

[triggyscrewedus]

Nah, not an upgrade really. No point as it doesnt really make us better.

JHF in our midfield doesn't make us better ?

 

[mtbkym]

JHF in our midfield doesn't make us better ?

I’m all for getting JHF, just not giving up our most exciting player to do it. Losing Rachelle out of our fwd/mid definitely makes us worse, which gets negated by adding JHF. Get him without giving up Rachelle so as we are much better with him

 

[baldandbroke]

More to the point, it’s not the player being traded - it’s the contract

A contract duration is a key determinant of value

Well, that's not how it works in AFL yet ... actual trading of the contract I mean, right?

Contracted and wanting to leave vs. uncontracted and wanting to leave - one is a bit harder to get done than the other.

In terms of contract duration determining value - not sure on that one. ROB jumps to mind.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

If we were going to go for a mature big bodied mid, I’d prefer Hopper to Dunkley.

Neither have much foot speed but Hopper more powerful to my eye.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Opinions be like...

Wouldn't be in my top 20 mids playing currently.

He's a good average player...and certainly not a gamebreaker..

I agree that he isn’t a game breaker, maybe I just associate the word ‘average’ with players of a lesser quality

 

[D Style]

Anyone have any knowledge on when the exit interviews are, and if we have an ear to the ground on what might be said?

 

[SuperBashBros]

Anyone have any knowledge on when the exit interviews are, and if we have an ear to the ground on what might be said?

Nicks said that non-SANFL (finals) players will get them over the next week. Presume the rest when the finals series is over.

 

[LeftyLuke]

Anyone have any knowledge on when the exit interviews are, and if we have an ear to the ground on what might be said?

Probably tomorrow and Wednesday.

 

[cleanhands]

Anyone have any knowledge on when the exit interviews are, and if we have an ear to the ground on what might be said?

Heard on the radio they actually begin today

 

[Volbeat]

So out of all those, the only really reliable ones to take to the bank is the Rankine and Frampton ones as Volbeat is more reliable than any of those other sources

Happy to take any kickback for the plug Volbeat

Thanks. I do need a good hype man

 

[AFC979810]

Interesting that the Blues are rumoured to be into Sholl and McAsey. 2 low priced fringe players with potential.

Maybe their aggressive overpay strategy is finally coming back to bite them, and they are now needing to pivot to keep under the salary cap.

Might be worth asking the question on players rather then picks if these 2 ask for a trade. I loved Kemp coming out, Admittedly I haven't seen him play since. Also, a part of me would love us to ask for Stocker. Just for the fun of full circling that trade that never ended!

When you win contested ball (+54), disposals (+22), inside 50s (+21) and clearances (+12) in what effectively worked out to be a losing final - its smart to go after good outside players who can use the ball effectively.

 

[Maddogmetro]

6 of his last 47 is a funny way to say 5 of his last 15.

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It is called using the entire sample size, and not cherry picking.

 

[Kane Johnson]

I don't expect many to be surprised about this Izak Rankine

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Izak Rankine

Age

25

Ht

179cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

5star

CL

1.7

4star

trade request. Redhorse called it years ago. #bigfish

 

[D Style]

Well. 1 official announcement down - I know we still need to make it happen but I am sure we will.

Hoping for a couple of other official announcements soon too.

Anyone hear Alastair Clarkson mention he wants some 26-27 yr olds at North Melbourne.......made me think of Matt Crouch

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Matt Crouch

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

 

[ams4crows]

Well. 1 official announcement down - I know we still need to make it happen but I am sure we will.

Hoping for a couple of other official announcements soon too.

Anyone hear Alastair Clarkson mention he wants some 26-27 yr olds at North Melbourne.......made me think of Matt Crouch

Good, he deserves to be playing AFL, just not with us.

Wonder if we will try the Poulter Frampton straight swap with Collingwood? Not sure what we'd actually want out of that deal.

 

[BACCS]

 

[SugarShane]

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Theo's normally got the good info. Interesting.

 

[BACCS]

Theo's normally got the good info. Interesting.

Doesn’t appear so in this case

 

[1990crow]

Doesn’t appear so in this case

Turner hasn't had his exit meeting. Doubt he knows.

 

[LeftyLuke]

Well. 1 official announcement down - I know we still need to make it happen but I am sure we will.

Hoping for a couple of other official announcements soon too.

Anyone hear Alastair Clarkson mention he wants some 26-27 yr olds at North Melbourne.......made me think of Matt Crouch

I think he was likely thinking of other 27year olds.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Turner hasn't had his exit meeting. Doubt he knows.

Turner also looks like he hasn't bought into the Crows Program .....has looked very pedestrian

 

[Sanders]

Well, that's not how it works in AFL yet ... actual trading of the contract I mean, right?

Yes, that’s exactly what happens here.

Contracted and wanting to leave vs. uncontracted and wanting to leave - one is a bit harder to get done than the other.

Still contractual terms and residual rights

In terms of contract duration determining value - not sure on that one. ROB jumps to mind.

That’s exactly a value determined by duration. As is Grundy’s

 

[baldandbroke]

Yes, that’s exactly what happens here.

So I have 2 years left on my contract, I go to Geelong - they pay my exact contract for the remaining 2 years? I understand that the existing terms might be a starting point for the new contract, but no-one is directly buying the contract are they? Sometimes a contracted player leaves for a better $ and more years.

Still contractual terms and residual rights

If the contracted player is wanting to leave - the only way that the club holding the current contract agrees to rip it up is if they are compensated in some other way. That is why it costs more to get a contracted player out of a club than an uncontracted player. The contractual terms and residual rights have a value - that value is basically the extra cost to throw them out.

That’s exactly a value determined by duration. As is Grundy’s

Ok - value to whom - the club or the player? And when are you determining this value - when it is struck or now?

I'd say when the contract is first agreed to, the club and the player agree on a value that is in both $ and years.

After that, it can go lots of ways!