NO TROLLS Hawthorn Racism Review - Sensitive issues discussed. Part 2

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Link to Hawthorn Statement. - Link to ABC Sports article. - Leaked Report

Process Plan - https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/do...erms-of-Reference-and-Process-Plan-FINAL-.pdf


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[mcnulty]

What's the movie called ? It sounds ok.

With Pickett it’s like the movie. Everything’s fine until they actually have to say something.

 

[Makeshift Park]

What's the movie called ? It sounds ok.

Supervixens (1975) ⭐ 5.9 | Comedy, Thriller

1h 46m | Unrated

www.imdb.com

I find it quite amusing that two of the accounts espousing the most sententious views in this thread carry avatars of a racy sexploitation flick and an iconic stoner rock record.

 

[ferball]

Punching a wall or a person is physical aggression. Asking someone questions with a microphone and a guy with a camera is not physical aggression.

Amazing this has to be pointed out but here we are.

I agree.

Physical aggression has no place in football.

This thread has become a farce.

 

[Khmerhawk]

Thanks, downloading it now.

Supervixens (1975) ⭐ 5.9 | Comedy, Thriller

1h 46m | Unrated

www.imdb.com

I find it quite amusing that two of the accounts espousing the most sententious views in this thread carry avatars of a racy sexploitation flick and an iconic stoner rock record

 

[perplexed]

Did you chose to deflect instead of defending Clarkson because his behaviour is inexcusable?

Hi Mate

If you are feeling underappreciated, I'm happy to discuss any aspect of the Hawthorn Racism Review that you like. I promise not to deflect onto what Clarko did or didn't do to you personally.

 

[mcnulty]

The deflections in here are hilarious.

‘Chopsticks’ Martin
Brad Scott

Nothing to see here everybody.

How’s that a deflection? Apparently Dusty threatened to stab a woman with a chopstick. It’s ok of course, without him you might not have won 3 GFs. Surely that’s pertinent to the discussion. What level of bad behaviour is considered TOO MUCH.

Throwing this one out there…

 

[Osho]

Supervixens (1975) ⭐ 5.9 | Comedy, Thriller

1h 46m | Unrated

www.imdb.com

I find it quite amusing that two of the accounts espousing the most sententious views in this thread carry avatars of a racy sexploitation flick and an iconic stoner rock record.

The map isn't the landscape.

The icon isn't the program.

The avatar isn't the person.

Quant is not quale.

Derfred.

 

[Rich01]

How’s that a deflection? Dusty threatened to stab a woman with a chopstick.

Throwing this one out there…

Threatened to stab?
My memory might be deceiving me, but can you refresh it by clarifying where he was charged with ‘threatening to stab’?

Clarko has been videoed and admitted to similar if not more threatening behaviour.

And this is absolutely nothing in comparison to what he’s accused of. Which I’m sure you will agree.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It's been proven enough that the ABC could print it comfortably in the knowledge that it's probably true. (Truth being their likely defence against any defamation action).,

Keep in mind that what they did was possibly not a crime, so will never be proven in a criminal court of law. And it likely won't be proven in a civil court either because there's so much evidence that the insurance companies will insist on a payout.

I don't know what more evidence than multiple sources about multiple incidents plus text messages and emails? In my eyes, it's proven enough and unless Clarkson can provide evidence to the contrary, then I'll know what he is (not much of a stretch from what I already knew he was).

If you call that proof then you are saying every allegation in a paper is essentially proven. Thats a ridiculous bow to draw no offence. Now it might end up being proven over time but theres no way its proven to any factual standard at this point. Thats a logical fallacy.

 

[mcnulty]

My memory might be deceiving me, but can you refresh it by clarifying where he was charged with ‘threatening to stab’?

Lol. So what was he accused of?

 

[mcnulty]

Bear in mind, this is the media:

“Richmond's Dustin Martin threatened to stab a fellow restaurant patron with a chopstick after she told the drunken Tiger to stop acting offensively at a Chapel Street eatery on Saturday night, according to a club source.”

Richmond star Dustin Martin apologises after threatening woman with chopstick

Richmond's Dustin Martin threatened to stab a fellow restaurant patron with a chopstick after she told the drunken Tiger to stop acting offensively at a Chapel St eatery on Saturday night.

www.theage.com.au

 

[sr36]

How’s that a deflection? Dusty threatened to stab a woman with a chopstick. It’s ok of course, without him you might not have won 3 GFs. Surely that’s pertinent to the discussion. What level of bad behaviour is considered TOO MUCH.

Throwing this one out there…

Your comment isn't great news for Clarko. As even dubious mud sticks.

Media jumped gun on Dusty claim: Connolly

www.sen.com.au

 

[mcnulty]

Your comment isn't great news for Clarko. As even dubious mud sticks.

Media jumped gun on Dusty claim: Connolly

www.sen.com.au

It didn’t stick for Dusty. But read further.

 

[Rich01]

Lol. So what was he accused of?

With 140+ posts in this thread, if you still don’t know, that’s a problem. It suggests you have serious investment in the topic, so if you haven’t followed the story beyond this thread, i won’t be helping you to get there.

But I suggest you are smarter than that and are just playing games and your deflection tactics suggest this.

 

[mcnulty]

With 140+ posts in this thread, if you still don’t know, that’s a problem. It suggests you have serious investment in the topic, so if you haven’t followed the story beyond this thread, i won’t be helping you to get there.

But I suggest you are smarter than that and are just playing games and your deflection tactics suggest this.

Your unwillingness to answer the question is noted.

 

[Rich01]

Your unwillingness to answer the question is noted.

Ok. I may have overestimated your intelligence in my previous post.
Apologies.

 

[mcnulty]

Ok. I may have overestimated your intelligence in my previous post.
Apologies.

You came in here not thinking you were a hypocrite, now have no idea what to do now you've been called out. Where to from here, I wonder.

 

[sr36]

It didn’t stick for Dusty. But read further.

I meant years later, people including yourself still reference "chopsticks" and assume it occured - regardless of the outcome of the AFL and police investigation.

 

[mcnulty]

I meant years later, people including yourself still reference "chopsticks" and assume it occured - regardless of the outcome of the AFL and police investigation.

Umm…that’s the point.

 

[Rich01]

You came in here not thinking you were a hypocrite, now have no idea what to do now you've been called out. Where to from here, I wonder.

Mate if you come in here trying to murky the waters of the investigation by asking ‘what about Dusty with his chopstick incident’ I really can’t help you.

It’s full deflection mode.

If you honestly don’t know what Clarkos been accused of after over 140 of your own posts in this thread, nothing I say can help you.

You obviously have your own view and justification about what some have been accused of in the past are exactly the same as what Clarko has been accused of and there ‘is nothing to see here’.

It’s hard to argue with arguments like this because they are illogical and emotive.

So I’ll leave you to this style.

I’m not as invested in this topic as you obviously are.

My view though is that Clarko will never have to address these claims and defend himself which is a real shame. It doesn’t mean he’s not guilty, but I don’t think he will be punished for it. He sure has a history of aggression and forcing his hand on people if things don’t go his own way. Just because they can’t prove it in this case doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.

And yeah, if we put this logic onto the Dusty incident… we are comparing someone that threatened a woman with chopsticks versus standing over an employee demanding his partner get an abortion and not associate with her again.

While both unacceptable, which one is more abhorrent in your opinion?

 

[sr36]

Umm…that’s the point.

If that was your point, you've made it badly. All your statements are claiming that Martin did it and you linked articles stating he did it.

 

[mcnulty]

If that was your point, you've made it badly. All your statements are claiming that Martin did it and you linked articles stating he did it.

Yes. The media will make up their own minds. As will the punters.

Gedddittttt?

 

[mcnulty]

While both unacceptable, which one is more abhorrent in your opinion?

Just link me back to you calling out Dusty. There’s a search function. Shouldn’t take you too long.

 

[Rich01]

Just link me back to you calling out Dusty. There’s a search function. Shouldn’t take you too long.

You haven’t mentioned Dusty in this thread? Look at this page, won’t take you long.

 

[mcnulty]

You haven’t mentioned Dusty in this thread? Look at this page, won’t take you long.

I have no idea what you’re talking about. I haven’t mentioned Dusty until tonight. I’m wondering where you stand on his past history.

I think you need some sleep.