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Not like for like at all, but between the 2 of them they are the backline experience and leaders.We want redman to replace simth..
doedee and smith arent like for like at all..
plus smith is contracted next season anyway..
We would morally have to offer him an extension. Imho he is easily in our best players, was touted a future captain before injury stopped his progress. I hope he comes back and better.Sad for doedee
Probably best case for us is if we genuinely hadn’t started contract talks as withdrawing/reducing an offer does have likely negative cultural implications
If he had put off talks or even told us he was going then we are well in our right to let the market speak. If suddenly the market isn’t offering him enough to want to leave and we possibly get him cheap then so be it.
Although if we thought he was leaving and suddenly he he were to agree to a 2 year deal would/should we do it? There’s be a good chance it’s 2 and gone so the $ would basically be for 1.5 years if so.
We would morally have to offer him an extension.
Sad for doedee
Probably best case for us is if we genuinely hadn’t started contract talks as withdrawing/reducing an offer does have likely negative cultural implications
If he had put off talks or even told us he was going then we are well in our right to let the market speak. If suddenly the market isn’t offering him enough to want to leave and we possibly get him cheap then so be it.
Although if we thought he was leaving and suddenly he he were to agree to a 2 year deal would/should we do it? There’s be a good chance it’s 2 and gone so the $ would basically be for 1.5 years if so.
This.Absolutely spot on.
It's very sad for Tom and I wish him the best in his recovery.
As callous as it may sound, this could actually be a net positive for the club. I think he was gone at the end of the year, so this LTI forces us to play Worrell for the next 11 games which is a great result for the club.
If this ruins his big deal he had locked away with another club, then I would happily re-sign him at a much cheaper rate.
Redman has coaches votes in 7 out of 11 games prior to this round, with only Dawson and Laird having more votes for us, and Merrett for Essendon. So basically you're saying every game where he isn't 'very average' he's in the best half dozen players on the field as judged by the coaches. Which seems like pretty high praise to me.Not a chance Mostyn .....Redman's had 5 from 12 games as very average ....happy to produce the stats too, or you can look up
No, I don't want to spend $800K per year on Redman !
I understand the negative feedback on my POV ......no-one wants a Christmas Grinch spoiling their gift ....I get it
I wouldn’t bother, this is just Wayne’s latest attempt of trying to talk Redman down. Previously he said there was a big disparity in his performance in Essendon wins and losses, which was proven incorrect….Redman has coaches votes in 7 out of 11 games prior to this round, with only Dawson and Laird having more votes for us, and Merrett for Essendon. So basically you're saying every game where he isn't 'very average' he's in the best half dozen players on the field as judged by the coaches. Which seems like pretty high praise to me.
You've also mentioned our lack of leadership in defence, that there isn't a marshall there to organise structures and lead. Minimal presence or direction from Butts and Murray. Maybe we see Redman as being able to fill that roleNot a chance Mostyn .....Redman's had 5 from 12 games as very average ....happy to produce the stats too, or you can look up
No, I don't want to spend $800K per year on Redman !
I understand the negative feedback on my POV ......no-one wants a Christmas Grinch spoiling their gift ....I get it
Smith is pretty much done. We do need a running half back but we also need an elite mid, a better ruck and another key forward as depth for when Walker retires. I see Hinge as a wing as he isn't great defensively.I could get behind the argument that a rebounding half back is not our biggest need right now, since we have Smith, Hinge, Milera etc. But Redman is very good, and I can't see an inside mid we could pick up as an FA instead unfortunately, which is our primary 'need'.
Rehn's first 2 were the same knee and he came back from those to be huge in our premiership years.Shaun Rehn did
Murray has been marshalling them pretty well. Maybe Worrell is also good in that space. Butts has been average most of the year and I wouldn't mind seeing what Keane can do.You've also mentioned our lack of leadership in defence, that there isn't a marshall there to organise structures and lead. Minimal presence or direction from Butts and Murray. Maybe we see Redman as being able to fill that role
You can see what Keane can do in the SANFL, and it isn't enough.Murray has been marshalling them pretty well. Maybe Worrell is also good in that space. Butts has been average most of the year and I wouldn't mind seeing what Keane can do.
Yeah I've seen him but some players do better at AFL level. If they feel they aren't going to get picked they just go through the motions.You can see what Keane can do in the SANFL, and it isn't enough.