Current WAR CRIMES Israel - Hamas Conflict

[Kurve]

Literally anything is possible. This isn't going to start a world war.

Iran will respond which risks regional war. On from there.

 

[Jazny]

Since when do Iranians stencil "Filling Drain - P" in English?

My goodness.

Probably ever since the time they also had worlds like "Radar Hatch" and "Warhead Cabin" stenciled on their missiles too.

 

[Jazny]

Israel and apartheid - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That article outlines arguments that are both for and against Israel being an apartheid state.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

That article outlines arguments that are both for and against Israel being an apartheid state.

Are you able to form an opinion based on the information provided?

Can you not see the similarities with apartheid era South Africa?

 

[Jazny]

Can you not see the similarities with apartheid era South Africa?

Nope.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Nope.

So you didn’t read the article. There is a specific section relating to that.

It would be nice if you could start discussing things in good faith Jazny.

 

[jason_recliner]

These are all pretty good reasons to overthrow Hamas considering they have plentiful amounts of all of that stuff. Their leadership are billionaires.

If you were a Gazan, how would you go about achieving this without any resources and without risking harm to your family?

 

[faible]

The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.

If this isn't apartheid, it's certainly flirting with it, apartheid-curious perhaps?

Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Bostonian]

If you were a Gazan, how would you go about achieving this without any resources and without risking harm to your family?

Support Fatah?

Its obvious they are more willing to come to a negotiation table than Hamas are.

They are far less inclined to want this kind of conflict as well.

 

[faible]

Support Fatah?

Obviously it's their fault for not voting for Fatah in the elections held in 2024, 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007.

So it's quite clear they all deserve to be punished for voting for the wrong party.

 

[Bostonian]

Can you not see the similarities with apartheid era South Africa?

Israel allows for Muslims and Arabs to hold political office.

The multiple parties they belong too represent their views.

This did not happen in South Africa under apartheid era conditions. The black population had next to no political representation.

 

[jason_recliner]

Support Fatah?

Its obvious they are more willing to come to a negotiation table than Hamas are.

They are far less inclined to want this kind of conflict as well.

It's possible many support Fatah, I have no idea. What practical, achievable, effective actions would you undertake?

 

[ZEV]

If you were a Gazan, how would you go about achieving this without any resources and without risking harm to your family?

Easy, I would let Israel do it and have people complain about them risking harm to their country.

 

[Jazny]

If this isn't apartheid, it's certainly flirting with it, apartheid-curious perhaps?

Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

How is that law implemented and what does it mean for non-Jewish people living in Israel?

 

[faible]

How is that law implemented and what does it mean for non-Jewish people living in Israel?

TBC still, South Africa didn't become a full-blown apartheid state in a day.

 

[Bostonian]

It's possible many support Fatah, I have no idea. What practical, achievable, effective actions would you undertake?

Well I'd get the world political heavy weights to push for Fatah and Israel to sit down at the table and start talking.

All medical and food aid to be brought in through them.

If Hamas start hindering Fatah's efforts then they start to lose support and legitimacy as representing the best interests of the Palestinians.

If you want to take it further send in UN troops into Fatah controlled areas to set up an area for refugees protected by Fatah and the UN.

Then if talks are getting somewhere stop dealing with Hamas and offer the people of Palestine the Fatah solution.

 

[faible]

Well I'd get the world political heavy weights to push for Fatah and Israel to sit down at the table and start talking.

All medical and food aid to be brought in through them.

If Hamas start hindering Fatah's efforts then they start to lose support and legitimacy as representing the best interests of the Palestinians.

If you want to take it further send in UN troops into Fatah controlled areas to set up an area for refugees protected by Fatah and the UN.

Then if talks are getting somewhere stop dealing with Hamas and offer the people of Palestine the Fatah solution.

I assume you mean Israel sitting down and talking to the Fatah that is nominally in power in the West Bank where Israeli settlers keep stealing land?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Israel allows for Muslims and Arabs to hold political office.

The multiple parties they belong too represent their views.

This did not happen in South Africa under apartheid era conditions. The black population had next to no political representation.

Ok so you found one thing slightly different, among a long list of similarities.

Bravo.

 

[faible]

Ok so you found one thing slightly different, among a long list of similarities.

Bravo.

Apartheid South Africa even added a whole 'wing' of Parliament for Coloureds and Indians. Very democratic of them.

 

[jason_recliner]

Well I'd get the world political heavy weights to push for Fatah and Israel to sit down at the table and start talking.

All medical and food aid to be brought in through them.

This sounds like a really positive objective to me. How would you work towards this as a Gazan with little to no resources?

I'd start by sharing with the world on social media pics and video of the harm caused by Israeli war crimes.

If Hamas start hindering Fatah's efforts then they start to lose support and legitimacy as representing the best interests of the Palestinians.

There's no evidence Hamas represents the interests of Palestinians.

 

[jason_recliner]

Easy, I would let Israel do it and have people complain about them risking harm to their country.

I understand.

 

[Bostonian]

Ok so you found one thing slightly different, among a long list of similarities.

Bravo.

Well it's kind of a large difference.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Well it's kind of a large difference.

Not when theres millions of people that aren’t allowed to vote.

Guess which people they are.

 

[ZEV]

Not when theres millions of people that aren’t allowed to vote.

Guess which people they are.

Children?

Oh I know, it's apartheid because Palestinians don't get to vote in Israeli elections.

Double apartheid because Palestinians don't get to vote in Palestinian elections because they don't have those anymore.

 

[Bostonian]

Not when theres millions of people that aren’t allowed to vote.

Guess which people they are.

If you are a citizen of Israel you can vote.

Palestinian Israelis included.