Analysis Sydney's 2024 dominance is underrated

[rye]

not wishing it on the side but all it takes is a couple of injuries and they could be brought back to the pack. their only real out for the majority of this season has been mills. no other team contending for finals other than carlton has had as good a run with injuries as sydney to date.

 

[Ed_Gein]

not wishing it on the side but all it takes is a couple of injuries and they could be brought back to the pack. their only real out for the majority of this season has been mills. no other team contending for finals other than carlton has had as good a run with injuries as sydney to date.

Point taken.

But you're also missing Parker and Reid.

 

[rye]

Point taken.

But you're also missing Parker and Reid.

neither of those two are in your best side anymore

 

[PerthBoy86]

It's been discussed a fair bit in the media, with much of the focus between on the holy trinity of Heeney, Warner and Gulden. I think a lot of their success will hinge on these three maintaining that level/not getting injured or too much. Grundy and Adams no doubt helping. Its interesting they lack a truly dangerous forward, with McDonald and Amarty B graders at best, who can have blinders (like Amarty last week)...but imagine if they had a Curnow, they'd be even more unbeatable, if that makes sense.

But it comes down to one day in September (or October). Even the strongest, best prepared teams can come unstuck on grand final day. Something as simple as inaccuracy (Geelong 2008) can cost you.

 

[Ed_Gein]

neither of those two are in your best side anymore

Yes they would be.

Reid would be playing ahead of McLean or Amartey.

Once Parker got back in the side I don't think he would've left it.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

neither of those two are in your best side anymore

Parker interchangeable with Adams and your point on injuries is odd with respect to us - we were completely cooked with injuries early in the season and touch wood, we’re coming good now

But that’s player management (and a bit of luck) right? Without looking I’m confident all 4 prelim finalists last year wouldn’t have been missing more than 4 of their best 23

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Yes they would be.

Reid would be playing ahead of McLean or Amartey.

Once Parker got back in the side I don't think he would've left it.

Why mention Sam Reid? Way to wreck the thread Ed!

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Parker interchangeable with Adams and your point on injuries is odd with respect to us - we were completely cooked with injuries early in the season and touch wood, we’re coming good now

But that’s player management (and a bit of luck) right? Without looking I’m confident all 4 prelim finalists last year wouldn’t have been missing more than 4 of their best 23

Your injury list, beyond Walsh did not include B+ or A Graders. The Pies have been hammered.

 

[VinnieB]

Interesting thread. For me:

• It is a constant surprise how large the gap is between first and second
• It is premature to discuss Premierships. We haven’t even qualified for top 4.
• I think for neutrals we are a decent and probably entertaining club to watch. And this has added interest to the Comp.
• Mills, Parker and Adams aside we have been fortunate with injury where other teams have been less fortunate, eg Pies, Dees, Giants, Lions
• None of our few A graders are traditional types and this makes them hard to neutralise. Reckon we have just 3 A Graders - Heeney, Gulden and Blakey.
• We have plenty of B+ players, inc Grundy, Warner, McInerney Papley, Rowbottom who have unusual attributes.Rowy may end up the greatest tackler the game has produced.
• We have a strong team orientation and are every fit.

The Bloods are great fun for fans. We were barely rated earlier in the season. (Buckley and Whately famously delivered a preview of the Pies v Bloods game where they did not mention the Swans or a Swans player at all.) Now the Media are foaming - they are not all that happy about it.

Why wouldn’t the media be happy about the Swans performing well? That’s a big chip you carry.

BTW, I did tip Swans to finish top of the ladder before the season in that top 8 thread. I thought the addition of Grundy and Adams would be a lot more significant than what many thought.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Your injury list, beyond Walsh did not include B+ or A Graders. The Pies have been hammered.

My point (had you read it) is that rarely can you go deep without a decent run with injury

Sydney probably have the deepest coverage for their injuries of all contenders too, so I assert that poster was wrong because:
1. All sides need a decent run with injury to contend (with prelim finalists being the contenders)
2. The Swans are already missing two guns from their side and are still out on top by a mile (the point of the thread)

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Why wouldn’t the media be happy about the Swans performing well? That’s a big chip you carry.

Swans are a universally loved team, you’d be hard pressed to find a fan or media personality with a complete disdain for them

Horace has been on one the last week or so, been acting strange to the point I am genuinely concerned for him

Gone from a normal poster to fighting everyone

 

[VinnieB]

Swans are a universally loved team, you’d be hard pressed to find a fan or media personality with a complete disdain for them

Horace has been on one the last week or so, been acting strange to the point I am genuinely concerned for him

Gone from a normal poster to fighting everyone

I’ve never found him ‘normal’

 

[Wolfgang West]

Opposition will play a gorilla against Grundy in finals and he will disappear.
Brizzy and Collingwood still better than them

LMFAO. No Carlton ?

 

[Wolfgang West]

Who are these gorillas you speak of?

Pittonet ? Maybe bring back Big Nic

 

[Wolfgang West]

neither of those two are in your best side anymore

Parker is and will be. If you think otherwise you are wrong. My take on this thread is posts from people who support other obvious flag aspirants live in hope this current Swans run away train will run off the tracks. Natural reaction when your side is a realistic threat but not quite sure if they can beat them if they are at their best. My Hope is we actually make the GF and get a well officiated game to get a fair crack at it. So much water to go under the bridge. Said this before say it again, 2014 & 2022 were debacles but realty is we were beaten by 2 of the games great sides who put on masterclasses. 2016 ? We all know the story. Hard to make them and even harder to win.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

My point (had you read it) is that rarely can you go deep without a decent run with injury

Sydney probably have the deepest coverage for their injuries of all contenders too, so I assert that poster was wrong because:
1. All sides need a decent run with injury to contend (with prelim finalists being the contenders)
2. The Swans are already missing two guns from their side and are still out on top by a mile (the point of the thread)

one of your points….iirc after WCE we had the most days lost to injury last year. Aside from Grundy we have reasonable coverage for most positions and our list of quality players missing is different .

We are having a better year with injury to date

We are a long way from being assured a Prelim as are every other hopeful.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Pittonet ? Maybe bring back Big Nic

We can bring back Ken Boyd to again deliver justice to big Nic.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Swans are a universally loved team, you’d be hard pressed to find a fan or media personality with a complete disdain for them

Horace has been on one the last week or so, been acting strange to the point I am genuinely concerned for him

Gone from a normal poster to fighting everyone

What! I am an affable old fella

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Horace is now in the danster, fitzey and Fadge bucket for me

 

[Wolfgang West]

Horace is now in the danster, fitzey and Fadge bucket for me

Illustrious company.

 

[Thrawn]

not wishing it on the side but all it takes is a couple of injuries and they could be brought back to the pack. their only real out for the majority of this season has been mills. no other team contending for finals other than carlton has had as good a run with injuries as sydney to date.

Excuse me? We were missing several of our best 22 at one point: McGovern, Saad and Docherty is our first choice HB line, were all out. Fogarty, Motlop, Cerra, Martin all handy players. You can argue they're not "A graders" all you want (even though Doc and Saad are), but we are significantly better with them playing. Case in point, Saad and McGovern settling our defence and rebound game after coming back. Cerra is no slouch either and will improve our midfield, and either Motlop or Martin is better than Fantasia and Durdin.

I see Collingwood mentioned already, but only DeGoey and Pendles would be A grade and our injury list was just as long as theirs only a month ago, where coincidentally we've had the toughest part of our draw. I'll see if I can find it, but there was a graphic showing how much best 22 have missed games, and Richmod was clear 1st then Carlton, so your statement is objectively wrong.

 

[NetworkNerd]

Swans are a universally loved team, you’d be hard pressed to find a fan or media personality with a complete disdain for them

Horace has been on one the last week or so, been acting strange to the point I am genuinely concerned for him

Gone from a normal poster to fighting everyone

The entire Hawthorn Football Club

 

[Thrawn]

Opposition will play a gorilla against Grundy in finals and he will disappear.
Brizzy and Collingwood still better than them

Collingwood struggling with 18th spot team, only won because of a non-call yet they're better?

Brisbane are the 2nd form team in the comp atm, so still not.

 

[The King!]

Way too long to go, and way too many times I have seen my club lose big games etc to ever get too caught up in it. Too date it's been a fun year.
Plenty of good sides on the march

If we fall to shit it will just be another foot note .

I think the media etc have acknowledged us pretty well so far.

I have never seen a Swans side with the gears this side has thus far. But again Pies Blues Lions Dogs Gws etc all coming . It is a pretty even season.

 

[NetworkNerd]