Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[Blue1980]

I have never seen people repeating talking points against a politician like they do against trump though either. When he was in power last time there was one week where 4 separate people suggested(to me in conversation) independently that maybe he should be assassinated. I don’t listen to msm do I didn’t get the memo, so it was really wierd to hear.

It's a bit like saying taking heroin is dangerous. It is true, and a lot of people say it, doesn't mean it is some conspiracy though.

Some people are so far down the rabbit hole they think anything they hear in mainstream media by default is wrong and must take the opposite view no matter what.

So Trump bad must mean Trump good. Vaccines necessary must mean vaccines bad. Climate change real, must mean climate change isn't real etc etc.

What would make more sense is taking a critical view of everything not just being a moronic contrarian.

 

[Blue1980]

Imagine wanting status quo

We all want that

 

[awaremind]

It's a bit like saying taking heroin is dangerous. It is true, and a lot of people say it, doesn't mean it is some conspiracy though.

Some people are so far down the rabbit hole they think anything they hear in mainstream media by default is wrong and must take the opposite view no matter what.

So Trump bad must mean Trump good. Vaccines necessary must mean vaccines bad. Climate change real, must mean climate change isn't real etc etc.

What would make more sense is taking a critical view of everything not just being a moronic contrarian

Yeah well if we can just find the gap in the ice wall we can get to the outer lands and find Atlantis it’s all under the firmament

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

I don't think the Rogan interview will move the dial one iota. I can't imagine anyone sat down to listen to it that wasn't already a confirmed MAGA-ite.

I think he needs to dominate the non college white male vote to win , turn out in large numbers particularly in the 7 swing States.
Without researching I suspect that's a large part of Rogan's demographic.

 

[GreyCrow]

The dont do no research is a lie - what was said was dont go looking for confirmation bias when doing your own research

Fact checking only arose because DonOld didnt like it everytime he got fact checked so outright lied and called it fake news

Good to see you do that strawman thing where you highlight a sex offender celebrity as if every one of them is a sex offender

Yet ignore the biggest sex offender in DJT

And the only thing you got partially right was that democracy isnt what it used to be - and that is on BOTH sides

 

[awaremind]

That is very different from thinking Trump and MAGA are a better option on Israel. Those people just wont vote or go 3rd party.

You're peaching to the converted about how much I hate what Israel is doing and how cucked Biden and the dems are to literally anything Israel wants.

So much so, it seems a cover, just claiming its all what "Israel" wants as a plausible cover for it supporting US interests.

But yes, even more of the neocons who are bloodthirsty for war with Iran support Trump, there is no world where Trump is going to de-escalate tensions. He just talks about letting Israel "finish the job" in Gaza, basically saying Biden isn't helping Israel enough.

Whole situation is ****ed on Israel and the middle east with these 2 choices. One is awful (the dems) one is just as bad or worse in the republicans.

I suspect , despite trumps rhetoric around Israel they’d prefer nearly anyone else, because of his willingness to engage with Russia , and his unpredictable temperament.

 

[awaremind]

The dont do no research is a lie - what was said was dont go looking for confirmation bias when doing your own research

Fact checking only arose because DonOld didnt like it everytime he got fact checked so outright lied and called it fake news

Good to see you do that strawman thing where you highlight a sex offender celebrity as if every one of them is a sex offender

Yet ignore the biggest sex offender in DJT

And the only thing you got partially right was that democracy isnt what it used to be - and that is on BOTH sides

Kamala is partly losing because her lunatic supporters are going viral on the socials yelling at children or violently attacking non commited voters…

 

[GreyCrow]

Kamala is partly losing because her lunatic supporters are going viral on the socials yelling at children or violently attacking non commited voters…

Thanks for posting nothing resembling my post

 

[awaremind]

The dont do no research is a lie - what was said was dont go looking for confirmation bias when doing your own research

Fact checking only arose because DonOld didnt like it everytime he got fact checked so outright lied and called it fake news

Good to see you do that strawman thing where you highlight a sex offender celebrity as if every one of them is a sex offender

Yet ignore the biggest sex offender in DJT

And the only thing you got partially right was that democracy isnt what it used to be - and that is on BOTH sides

Seems like a lot are SOs! If trump can be charged with that he should have been . The media has a crucial role in democracy, that’s why balanced journalism is so important, and movement away from win power at all costs politics.

 

[bourbons]

Obviously you guys on this thread can’t see the forest for the trees. The concerted media brainwashing effort against trump and for Kamala is very obvious if you aren’t part of the cult. You guys say trump is a cult and that’s true to some extent, I can see it, but the pro democrat/ pro status quo(it was pro gw bush back in the day ) cult is even stronger

No chance a huge number of people just look at Trump, his actions, words straight from his own mouth and make a determination based on that?

I mean come on. Bloke is like a Frankenstein's monster, except instead of random body parts is composed almost exclusively of undesirable human traits

 

[Blue1980]

The dont do no research is a lie - what was said was dont go looking for confirmation bias when doing your own research

Fact checking only arose because DonOld didnt like it everytime he got fact checked so outright lied and called it fake news

Good to see you do that strawman thing where you highlight a sex offender celebrity as if every one of them is a sex offender

Yet ignore the biggest sex offender in DJT

And the only thing you got partially right was that democracy isnt what it used to be - and that is on BOTH sides

At least one side accepts election results, the fact the bar is that low is disturbing in itself.

 

[Blue1980]

Seems like a lot are SOs! If trump can be charged with that he should have been . The media has a crucial role in democracy, that’s why balanced journalism is so important, and movement away from win power at all costs politics.

So what are your thoughts on Trump trying to sue CNN and wanting ABC to lose their licence etc?

 

[awaremind]

No chance a huge number of people just look at Trump, his actions, words straight from his own mouth and make a determination based on that?

I mean come on. Bloke is like a Frankenstein's monster, except composed almost exclusively of ugly human traits

But the other side throws up seemingly empty puppets, spokespeople for big pharma, big weapons, black rock , vanguard and state st. If senile Joe can do the job, a robot could probably do it better. I really don’t like trump but he’s appealling to the demographic that used to vote left wing up until around 2000 , when the left became social justice obsessed and stopped caring about the lower / lower middle class .

 

[bourbons]

Kamala is partly losing because her lunatic supporters are going viral on the socials yelling at children or violently attacking non commited voters…

Yes this totally happened

You know the woman yelled at the kid outside a Harris rally yeah? After appearing to be arguing with actual Harris supporters?

 

[awaremind]

So what are your thoughts on Trump trying to sue CNN and wanting ABC to lose their licence etc?

They should review their journalism from the last 8 years and see how differently they treated each president and they might realize he has a point.

 

[awaremind]

Yes this totally happened

You know the woman yelled at the kid outside a Harris rally yeah? After appearing to be arguing with actual Harris supporters?

So ?

 

[Satan]

So what are your thoughts on Trump trying to sue CNN and wanting ABC to lose their licence etc?

He will close all fta news , cnn ,msnbc if he could

 

[iDon]

But the other side throws up seemingly empty puppets, spokespeople for big pharma, big weapons, black rock , vanguard and state st. If senile Joe can do the job, a robot could probably do it better. I really don’t like trump but he’s appealling to the demographic that used to vote left wing up until around 2000 , when the left became social justice obsessed and stopped caring about the lower / lower middle class .

I do enjoy this line that keeps getting thrown in by a few posters on here. Bleat on about a very pro-trump stance, anti Kamala but need to clarify that they don't like trump

 

[Satan]

They should review their journalism from the last 8 years and see how differently they treated each president and they might realize he has a point.

vis a vis faux

 

[JackOutback]

Why am I not surprised the pro-Trump poster is also the 'do you own research' proponent. You can do your own research but the rest of us know a couple of hours down the Google rabbit hole does not equal years of study and years of research in the relevant field. It just exposes you as a gullible fool. Might as well do your own research on open heart surgery and give it a crack.

FML. Still waiting for all of us that took the vaccine to drop dead. Why hasn't it happened yet?

 

[TheSunGod]

Imagine wanting status quo

 

[TheSunGod]

He will close all fta news , cnn ,msnbc if he could

And Pron …

Anti-Trump Ads Target Swing State pr0n Viewers: 'Enjoy While You Can'

Targets young bro culture, Threatens to ban pr0n.

Strange tactic.

Gives young blokes a bit of a conundrum.

 

[TheSunGod]

I’ve never seen people worship a politician like they do Trump.

I also can’t recall a politician as divisive as Trump? The whole thing has a weird nazi-like prancing around in lederhosen whilst drinking Gluehwein reality TV show vibe.

 

[DaTBird187]

I’ve never seen people worship a politician like they do Trump.

As he acts himself, he empowers people to be the true pieces of shit they really are instead of hiding in the shadows.

 

[bourbons]

But the other side throws up seemingly empty puppets, spokespeople for big pharma, big weapons, black rock , vanguard and state st. If senile Joe can do the job, a robot could probably do it better. I really don’t like trump but he’s appealling to the demographic that used to vote left wing up until around 2000 , when the left became social justice obsessed and stopped caring about the lower / lower middle class .

Unsure what all that has to do with assessing just assessing Trump on his merits. You (and Rogan) make it sound like he's some run of the mill personality who couldn't possibly generate the amount of hate he does without that hate being somehow manufactured

Surely there's always the possibility he's just an incredibly shit bloke who comes across really poorly to 50+% of people who see him and hear him?